Andre Woodson-Most Underrated UK player in School History

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Barely gets mentioned, but let's compare Couch and Woodson in their final two seasons:


Couch 96-97,97-98
YDS-8,159
ATT: 1,113
TD's: 73
INT: 34
Bowl game Record: 0-1

Woodson 05-06, 06-07
YDS:-7,224
ATT: 937
TD's: 71
INT:18
Bowl Game Record: 2-0

Woodson is currently the single season leader for TD's in a season in the SEC with 40. Better than Danny Wuerffel, Peyton Manning, Tim Couch etc.

Woodson also defeated Georgia, Louisville, Clemson, LSU, Florida State.

Why does he consistently never mentioned as one of the greatest to ever play for UK?
 

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Wonder what the unnecessarily taken sack totals would be? Woodson's main flaw is that he held on to the ball forever.
 
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Depends on who's doing the rating.
Another stat you can throw in there is Woodson's record for consecutive passes without an interception and consecutive completions without an interception. They were both SEC records when he left - I don't know if they still stand or not.

I've always been very disappointed that for whatever reason he never was able to make a pro roster. Some people point to a slow release or having a hitch in his throwing motion.
 

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Wonder what the unnecessarily taken sack totals would be? Woodson's main flaw is that he held on to the ball forever.

A sack is not really a big deal unless the QB has given up a lot of ground. A sack results in a loss of down and maybe 2 or 3 yards, not much different than an incompletion. I would much rather have a QB with the guts to stand in the pocket and try to find a receiver knowing he may get crunched than to have a guy bail out prematurely or wind up throwing the ball away when he still had time to make a play.
 
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Woodson held the national record for consecutive attempts without an interception. It has since been broken.

The sack thing, one could argue Couch played behind one of the best lines in KY history while Woodson garnered similar numbers with less attempts behind an average offensive line.
 

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Woodson held the national record for consecutive attempts without an interception. It has since been broken.

The sack thing, one could argue Couch played behind one of the best lines in KY history while Woodson garnered similar numbers with less attempts behind an average offensive line.

Yeah, that was a national record. Some of that was his receivers turning into DBs on some throws, Transfer U wanted Burton as a DB I think, and he played QB in high school I think.
 

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AW's long looping throwing motion and his propensity of holding the ball too long at times which led to far too many large losses of yardage were his only drawbacks IMO. Otherwise, he was smart, a good team mate, and driven.
 

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Woodson might have been underrated during his career at UK but others much more underrated coming out of high school (Woodson could have been, running offense in high school) but he was a four star and Lyons was a 4.9, Lindley and Gary Williams (ten years in the NFL?) were 5.1s, Pryor, Kelly, Locke, Jarmon were 5.2s (what a senior year he could have had with teams double teaming Peters. stupid NCAA), among many others, Tre as a 5.3, these just off the top of my head, many others were more underrated coming out of high school.
 

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AW's long looping throwing motion and his propensity of holding the ball too long at times which led to far too many large losses of yardage were his only drawbacks IMO. Otherwise, he was smart, a good team mate, and driven.

Driven, his last two years, his first three meh.
 

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Why does he consistently never mentioned as one of the greatest to ever play for UK?
Probably because he did not excel until his JR year. As for comparison with Couch, I would say Couch's notoriety first as a hot shot HS-er and later as the #1 draft pick elevates his status in most peoples minds. JMO

Peace
 

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I'm a huge Woodson fan, but I do recall his first couple of years he did not display the type of work ethic and attitude to be successful, then the light came on for him and boy did it ever.
 

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-randall cobb is the best offensive football player in UK history.

-woodson was very good as a jr/sr and is thought of as such. Not underrated.
 

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Barely gets mentioned, but let's compare Couch and Woodson in their final two seasons:


Couch 96-97,97-98
YDS-8,159
ATT: 1,113
TD's: 73
INT: 34
Bowl game Record: 0-1

Woodson 05-06, 06-07
YDS:-7,224
ATT: 937
TD's: 71
INT:18
Bowl Game Record: 2-0

Woodson is currently the single season leader for TD's in a season in the SEC with 40. Better than Danny Wuerffel, Peyton Manning, Tim Couch etc.

Woodson also defeated Georgia, Louisville, Clemson, LSU, Florida State.

Why does he consistently never mentioned as one of the greatest to ever play for UK?

I said repeatedly last season that Woodson never choked like Towles repeatedly choked in big games...

People always forget that Woodson was clutch and won us som BIG games that a QB like Towles never could....
 

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Some people develop later than others, suddenly "get it", it took Woodson his fourth year. Phil Sims had a completion percentage less than 50% for his career at Morehead, (not much better his senior year, and none of those years against SEC defenders), more interceptions than TDs, etc etc, and ended up with the MVP and record holder for completion percentage (80%, 22 of 25, with TWO drops) in a Super Bowl.

I hope Patrick has a great year at BC, a Kentucky boy that wanted to play for us, he certainly has all the tools, and I think he will be drafted based on that alone.
 

TeoJ

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I don't think most under rated in history,that takes in a lot of players.He was a good QB on a good team.
 
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[laughing]

They guy holds the most TD's in season over Peyton Manning Danny Wurfuel, Tim Couch Etc.

Lead UK to wins over Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, Louisville. Undefeated in bowl games.

Yet is NEVER mentioned with other UK greats.

Yet he isn't in the top 300?

Please
 
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Many players from those teams are underrated. It was a balanced offense and defense, so fans tend to forget sadly. Even worse, a portion of our "fans" only care if the QB "airs it out every play". That explains why players like Woodson and Hartline are completely forgotten, yet players like Lorenzen (the most overrated player in UK history) are idolized.

Is Woodson underrated? Yes. But I still think Hartlne is still more underrated. Not because Hartline was better by any means. But because fans know Woodson was great, yet many still act like Hartline was trash. Its completely ignored that Hartline was outstanding his senior season.
 

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i can still see him after he got his bell rung hard at SC (after LSU and Florida games, I think) and remember thinking..well, thats it for a decade. Fortunately he came back, He was awesome.
 

TeoJ

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[laughing]

They guy holds the most TD's in season over Peyton Manning Danny Wurfuel, Tim Couch Etc.

Lead UK to wins over Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, Louisville. Undefeated in bowl games.

Yet is NEVER mentioned with other UK greats.

Yet he isn't in the top 300?

Please




I'm sorry didn't realize he was the second coming according to you,I think Andre was a good player but you have him ranked as all time great.He has records for a year how about over for years for the records.
 
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No one said he was the second coming. However he does deserve to be mentioned with other UK greats.

9,360 passing yards
63 % comp percentage
79 touchdown passes to 25 int

Beat Clemson, Florida State, LSU, Georgia Louisville.

2-0 in bowl games

Fact remains he is one of the most underrated KY players in program history. He is rarely talked about as one of the greats.

Stats, when compared with not only other UK greats but SEC greats as well prove otherwise.
 
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Mr Schwump

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Many players from those teams are underrated. It was a balanced offense and defense, so fans tend to forget sadly. Even worse, a portion of our "fans" only care if the QB "airs it out every play". That explains why players like Woodson and Hartline are completely forgotten, yet players like Lorenzen (the most overrated player in UK history) are idolized.

Is Woodson underrated? Yes. But I still think Hartlne is still more underrated. Not because Hartline was better by any means. But because fans know Woodson was great, yet many still act like Hartline was trash. Its completely ignored that Hartline was outstanding his senior season.

Re Hartline, and FWIW. he's the last UK QB to throw for 3000 yds/season. That was 2010, long drought of weak QB play.
 

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Barely gets mentioned, but let's compare Couch and Woodson in their final two seasons:


Couch 96-97,97-98
YDS-8,159
ATT: 1,113
TD's: 73
INT: 34
Bowl game Record: 0-1

Woodson 05-06, 06-07
YDS:-7,224
ATT: 937
TD's: 71
INT:18
Bowl Game Record: 2-0

Woodson is currently the single season leader for TD's in a season in the SEC with 40. Better than Danny Wuerffel, Peyton Manning, Tim Couch etc.

Woodson also defeated Georgia, Louisville, Clemson, LSU, Florida State.

Why does he consistently never mentioned as one of the greatest to ever play for UK?
I disagree with the idea that Woodson is underrated, or that he barely gets mentioned. Woodson is 1 of the most recognized and honored players in recent Kentucky football history. Woodson and Cobb were Kentucky's most important playmakers so far in the new millenium.
 

TeoJ

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When Hartline( WAS) here the UK fans didn't like him,right or wrong that's, as they say a fact.
 

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I didn't realize Woodson was underrated. Thought most considered him the second best QB in modern times behind Couch. Some even put him ahead of Couch. Woodson was the most successful UK quarter in terms of wins since Derrick Ramsey. He beat number one ranked and eventual national champion LSU in dramatic fashion and beat top ten ranked, at the time, UofL in dramatic fashion. He won two bowl games. He goes down as one of the great UK players in my book. That 2007 team was very special with a lot of great leaders/players and Woodson was the QB/leader of them all.