Another Attack in United Kingdom

[FrankUnderwood]

Now that you've called me an ******* I can tell your feelings got hurt. Still, most everything you said is still full of willful ignorance and stupidity.

I appreciate your biblical reference but I'm sorry to tell you, that is from the Old Testament. Nobody believes that is how things should be carried out (stoning people to death). If you don't know the difference then maybe you should enlighten yourself with some research. Also, you're all over the place but are we arguing all religions? Never have I said that everything in the Bible is ok, so Secondly, you quoted the Bible verse saying "They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.” So as crazy as that sounds, are christians stoning people to death? Because believe it or not, muslims do carry out such atrocities in the Middle East. Gay people are murdered and thrown off of roofs, people are getting beheaded and Christian's are being slaughtered. If christians were doing that then I'd obviously be very against that too. But I shouldn't even have to say that.

Next up, the al-Qeada and ISIS references leave me completely confused. Uhhh, you do know terrorism in the region is FAR older than these two groups. So WTF are you talking about? You're just babbling the same garbage people who don't think for themselves do.

Nextup, politics and poverty?!? Again, wtf are you talking about? You do know most of the people that lead these terrorist organizations actually are highly educated people, right? Bin Laden was a civil engineer. Many other leaders of terrorist organizations were doctors and professors. So these aren't just an ignorant pocket of the Muslim community over there.

Have you heard of sharia law? Unless you're out of touch with reality (strong possibility) many countries over there are ran parallel with Muslim law, though from several different beliefs. Saudi Arabia beheads people in the middle of town that simply filmed something or have an opposing opinion to government. THAT HAS GONE ON FOR GENERATIONS!!! Stop stupidly tying everything to the United States which is little over 200 years old! It's lead on by sick ideology and religion and has nothing to do with what western civilization has done. It's simply the current excuse that people like you eat right up.

I don't hate muslims. I hate violent people that kill people because they don't believe the same way. Muslims for the most part in the USA are different in that they don't go blowing themselves up or continuously kill innocent people on a regular basis. (Though some here do and have) Most DO want peace and contribute greatly with society as do most christians, but unfortunately they are very different from most in the epicenter of religion, the Middle East. And don't patronize me and act as if you know my A) religious beliefs and B) my political party to fit your warped ideology. You're a part of the current problem in society, not me, and it's because if someone has a certain opinion, you categorize them with a group of people, conservatives or liberals. That's a stupid way to justify your own I'll informed opinions,

/Rack

 

[warrior-cat]

I'm no conservative by any stretch, but I support a comprehensive travel ban.

I want it to include ALL the Middle Eastern countries, not just the places where President Reads At Toddler Level doesn't have a personal financial interest aka Saudi Arabia aka the place that shoulders most of the 9/11 responsibility.

I'm not as scared of the brown boogeyman as many of you because a) I don't watch/listen to/read right-wing fear mongering media (or leftist media for that matter) b) living in rural BFE Kentucky, I'm probably 30 times more likely to be killed by a hilljack with a legal gun than I am an Islamic extremest, but safety first, common enemy and what not. Anything to prevent mass casualties is cool with me.

Since I am so scared, you wanna come hold my hand?

 

[warrior-cat]

Do you like have a man crush on me or something...I'm always suspect of any random person who has me on their mind.
You must live a sad and uneventful life...

You would make it eventful in the event that you could eventually say something intelligent on recent events if you could just take your head out of Hillary's ***.

 

[warrior-cat]

Currently or ever?

Also, is it just beheadings that bother you or do other forms of murder and abuse count?
Are you familiar with the Inquisitions?
The forced conversions of American Indians?
The North American slave trade?

You seem to miss the point...how unsurprising.

Are you over several hundred years old. We are not talking about Muslim atrocities of old dippy.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Since I am so scared, you wanna come hold my hand?

If it'll help you sleep without the night light. Anything for you, man. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[warrior-cat]

If it'll help you sleep without the night light. Anything for you, man. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I appreciate that but, I have 2 dogs that hate just about everyone but me and my wife and daughter. Funny thing is I woke up around midnight last night looking straight into the eyes of my 2 year old Sheppard mix. Tail started hitting the bed. Apparently, she had just got on the bed and moved between me and the wife.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Gotta love those surprise bed mates with four legs.

 

[Billy the real Kid]

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

You would make it eventful in the event that you could eventually say something intelligent on recent events if you could just take your head out of Hillary's ***.

No No...much better up here than dealing with my cats pause stalker.
How are you these days?

 

[shutzhund]

Because this is a private message board and the mods can censor you per terms of the "terms and conditions" you agreed to when you signed up.

For the slow kids in the back, the First Amendment only protects you from being jailed by the United States government for the stuff you say. It doesn't include protections from your employer, your school or your posting privileges on a private message board owned by a private company. Freedom of speech and speech without consequences are two entirely different things that often get confused and referred to simply as "FREEDUM A SPEECH!!!!1!!"

I'm bamboozled by people who argue politics but don't understand the first amendment doesn't apply to a GD message board. You people are too much sometimes.

"You people"? Just looking for something funny in this thread besides fuzz.

 

[warrior-cat]

No No...much better up here than dealing with my cats pause stalker.
How are you these days?

Stalking bigly as usual, thanks for asking.

 

[MegaBlue05]

"You people"? Just looking for something funny in this thread besides fuzz.

WHAT DO I MEAN, YOU PEOPLE?

 

[fuzz77]

Fuzz, let's be clear....NO Christian, when acting in accord with the teachings/directives of the Son of God, has ever engaged in behaviors such as you cite.

No one you or I would consider a Christian...but that ain't the way things work. I've seen and heard many Muslims say that the terrorist are not true Muslims. How much has that mattered?
Labels are both given and taken.

People claiming to be Christians, citing verses from the Bible as justification for their actions have done horrendous things. Tell me how that is different than people quoting verses from the Quran as proof that terrorist are "real Muslims"?

As I have said many times. You can find justification for just about any action in both the Bible and Quran.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Ha ha ha ha @ Fuzz

 

[warrior-cat]

Ha ha ha ha @ Fuzz

Once again Fuzz trying to equate the Muslims to Christians amid all of the proof to the contrary. Fuzz is anti-American and anti Christian, pure and simple.

 

[rmattox]

No one you or I would consider a Christian...but that ain't the way things work. I've seen and heard many Muslims say that the terrorist are not true Muslims. How much has that mattered?
Labels are both given and taken.

People claiming to be Christians, citing verses from the Bible as justification for their actions have done horrendous things. Tell me how that is different than people quoting verses from the Quran as proof that terrorist are "real Muslims"?

As I have said many times. You can find justification for just about any action in both the Bible and Quran.

Again, read the koran and the NT. Again, I will way "No person acting in accordance with the teachings of Christ has EVER murdered or committed any of the other atrocities that may have been mentioned in this thread". On the other hand, I challenge you to read the koran and claim that a muslim can, indeed, murder, lie and do generally anything if it contributes to the cause of islam.

Just because someone cites a verse as justification for their actions does not mean they are acting according to the teachings of Christ. In fact, if their act is immoral, it means they don't understand the verse or its context. True, a terrorist may quote the koran and not be a muslim. However, they can murder and still be acting according to islam. A person that murders is not acting according to Christianity.
Fuzz, if you or anyone else claims that islam does not condone or even promote immoral behaviors, you are wrong. In fact, according to the koran, you could kill or lie or even deny your religion and still be good muslim.

It is not true that you can find justification in the Bible for "just about any action".

 

[fuzz77]

Again, read the koran and the NT. Again, I will way "No person acting in accordance with the teachings of Christ has EVER murdered or committed any of the other atrocities that may have been mentioned in this thread". On the other hand, I challenge you to read the koran and claim that a muslim can, indeed, murder, lie and do generally anything if it contributes to the cause of islam.

Just because someone cites a verse as justification for their actions does not mean they are acting according to the teachings of Christ. In fact, if their act is immoral, it means they don't understand the verse or its context. True, a terrorist may quote the koran and not be a muslim. However, they can murder and still be acting according to islam. A person that murders is not acting according to Christianity.
Fuzz, if you or anyone else claims that islam does not condone or even promote immoral behaviors, you are wrong. In fact, according to the koran, you could kill or lie or even deny your religion and still be good muslim.

It is not true that you can find justification in the Bible for "just about any action".

Ram, do you not see the hypocrisy of what you write?

To start, one cannot just read a holy book and therefore become an expert on a religion based upon that book. Neither can you toss out half of the Bible (Old Testament) and pretend it doesn't exist and that Christian denominations don't use the OT in their teachings.

Just because a verse exists in a text does not mean that all that follow teachings based upon that text take the text literally. You have a lifetime of being a "Christian" and a basic understanding of Christianity so you believe you can speak for it. Yet when someone who is Muslim says; 'I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic Jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion'...you know Islam better than they do?
That quote was from Muhammad Ali.

Yes, I most certainly can find justification for most anything in the Bible. I can do so because I don't need context. All I need to do is find a verse that tells me to "burn witches". Someone throws out a verse from the Quran and because you have little depth in understanding of another religions teachings you take the verse literally. But when a similar verse from the Bible is quoted your response is...We don't use the OT the NT teaches something different.
Do you not see the double standard?

 

[warrior-cat]

Ram, do you not see the hypocrisy of what you write?

To start, one cannot just read a holy book and therefore become an expert on a religion based upon that book. Neither can you toss out half of the Bible (Old Testament) and pretend it doesn't exist and that Christian denominations don't use the OT in their teachings.

Just because a verse exists in a text does not mean that all that follow teachings based upon that text take the text literally. You have a lifetime of being a "Christian" and a basic understanding of Christianity so you believe you can speak for it. Yet when someone who is Muslim says; 'I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic Jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion'...you know Islam better than they do?
That quote was from Muhammad Ali.

Yes, I most certainly can find justification for most anything in the Bible. I can do so because I don't need context. All I need to do is find a verse that tells me to "burn witches". Someone throws out a verse from the Quran and because you have little depth in understanding of another religions teachings you take the verse literally. But when a similar verse from the Bible is quoted your response is...We don't use the OT the NT teaches something different.
Do you not see the double standard?

Wrong on so many levels. Have you read the Quran? If you have, might I suggest reading comprehension classes? Also, Jesus came to earth to fulfill a prophecy and correct what man was screwing up. Most Christians understand the difference between the New Testament and the Old. Now, prove to me Christians of today are killing using Gods name for doing it.

 

[rudd1]

-those that blame xtians for the crusades are obtuse and ignorant. Twas a response.

-i do not care about the history of christians...or any other religion. In fact commies(athiests) were the most effective murderers in the 20th century. Not germane.

-currently (last 30 years or so)Moslems are the big problem. Leftys thinking that they are just another minority oppressed by the evil white western male is wrongheaded...and suicidal.

 

[Brushy Bill]

The biggest danger to the Western white male's survival is Marxist Western white male's. Until we realize this and correct the problem it isn't going to fix itself.

 

[rmattox]

Ram, do you not see the hypocrisy of what you write?

To start, one cannot just read a holy book and therefore become an expert on a religion based upon that book. Neither can you toss out half of the Bible (Old Testament) and pretend it doesn't exist and that Christian denominations don't use the OT in their teachings.

Just because a verse exists in a text does not mean that all that follow teachings based upon that text take the text literally. You have a lifetime of being a "Christian" and a basic understanding of Christianity so you believe you can speak for it. Yet when someone who is Muslim says; 'I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic Jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion'...you know Islam better than they do?
That quote was from Muhammad Ali.

Yes, I most certainly can find justification for most anything in the Bible. I can do so because I don't need context. All I need to do is find a verse that tells me to "burn witches". Someone throws out a verse from the Quran and because you have little depth in understanding of another religions teachings you take the verse literally. But when a similar verse from the Bible is quoted your response is...We don't use the OT the NT teaches something different.
Do you not see the double standard?

I don't see a double standard in what I've been saying. Christianity is based on the teachings and actions of Jesus Christ. His teachings were consistent with the Law as it was given to Moses. Again, I challenge you to find one single instance in which Jesus Christ promoted murder, lying, even stoning people or did those things Himself. Just give me one. Whereas, muhammed himself not only taught killing, lying, deceit, but did those things himself. Let's put it this way: A muslim that conducts himself in accordance with the teachings and acts according to the model provided by muhammed will act in a way that is significantly different from that of a person acting according to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Do you not agree?

 

[WKBlu]

Ram, do you not see the hypocrisy of what you write?

To start, one cannot just read a holy book and therefore become an expert on a religion based upon that book. Neither can you toss out half of the Bible (Old Testament) and pretend it doesn't exist and that Christian denominations don't use the OT in their teachings.

Just because a verse exists in a text does not mean that all that follow teachings based upon that text take the text literally. You have a lifetime of being a "Christian" and a basic understanding of Christianity so you believe you can speak for it. Yet when someone who is Muslim says; 'I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic Jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion'...you know Islam better than they do?
That quote was from Muhammad Ali.

Yes, I most certainly can find justification for most anything in the Bible. I can do so because I don't need context. All I need to do is find a verse that tells me to "burn witches". Someone throws out a verse from the Quran and because you have little depth in understanding of another religions teachings you take the verse literally. But when a similar verse from the Bible is quoted your response is...We don't use the OT the NT teaches something different.
Do you not see the double standard?

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

The biggest danger to the Western white male's survival is Marxist Western white male's. Until we realize this and correct the problem it isn't going to fix itself.

Females. White females. Some have penises.