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dave

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Why would I care? I’m not transsexual. I don’t care about “team politics” like you. I’m interested in understanding people.
Oh...so I only think in terms of team politics? Maybe I am just a lot smarter than you?
 

Pospecteer

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I thought it was a good paper. It hits on points that are at the heart of the debate

I am not sure how I personally feel about this subject. I have friends who are transgender and 4/8 of my nieces/nephews identify as gay/bisexual. My wife's 1st cousin is a gay Olympian and was an original star in the WNBA, she represented the US with pride but did not come out until later in life. She was America first, sex 2nd!

We have a transgender surgeon in our town who is pretty famous for doing these transitions. He was a flight surgeon in the Air Force and was a decorated physician for NASA. She transitioned in 2000.
http://www.drchristinemcginn.com/drmcginn/

My wife used to be an innkeeper for a B&B that offered packages for those going through the change. They would stay for a month at a time while getting hormones, resting after surgery etc. She was amazed that some of the stories they would tell her. Her favorite was a paraplegic ex military guy from Tenn. During recovery he would clean his guns and was very conservative. He said he broke his back while on a special ops mission. He said that he always felt like he was a woman, but still only dated women. Another was a female couple who stayed with her. She said they were high level athletes and were very attractive. One went through the change to become a man but they were going to stay together.

There is a lot of attention to mental status of those going through this procedure, I think they even realize that all is not normal when transitioning and adding estrogen changes the mental make-up of a person and vise versa for woman to man.

On the other hand, we have neighbors who are gay and like to dress up as the opposite sex. They do it for fun or role playing. I think that is the biggest issues with this discussion, Transgender is not cross-dressing!
 

Airport

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She's free to do what she wants. Hopefully, they win, and a couple hundred people can celebrate by turning over a subaru.
 

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In this tread we see liberals being Misogynist even when their parties main platform is based on fighting against it.

Instead try:

In this thread, we see liberals being misogynists even when their party’s main platform is based on fighting against misogyny.

It doesn’t make your statement correct, but at least it’s readable.
 

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I am not sure how I personally feel about this subject. I have friends who are transgender and 4/8 of my nieces/nephews identify as gay/bisexual. My wife's 1st cousin is a gay Olympian and was an original star in the WNBA, she represented the US with pride but did not come out until later in life. She was America first, sex 2nd!

We have a transgender surgeon in our town who is pretty famous for doing these transitions. He was a flight surgeon in the Air Force and was a decorated physician for NASA. She transitioned in 2000.
http://www.drchristinemcginn.com/drmcginn/

My wife used to be an innkeeper for a B&B that offered packages for those going through the change. They would stay for a month at a time while getting hormones, resting after surgery etc. She was amazed that some of the stories they would tell her. Her favorite was a paraplegic ex military guy from Tenn. During recovery he would clean his guns and was very conservative. He said he broke his back while on a special ops mission. He said that he always felt like he was a woman, but still only dated women. Another was a female couple who stayed with her. She said they were high level athletes and were very attractive. One went through the change to become a man but they were going to stay together.

There is a lot of attention to mental status of those going through this procedure, I think they even realize that all is not normal when transitioning and adding estrogen changes the mental make-up of a person and vise versa for woman to man.

On the other hand, we have neighbors who are gay and like to dress up as the opposite sex. They do it for fun or role playing. I think that is the biggest issues with this discussion, Transgender is not cross-dressing!
Cheese alert: I want to thank you for your post. This type of post is what I look for on here in discussions.

I think you, or at least your wife, have a unique perspective on this issue that most do not. I understand the difficulties created in this discussion from transitioning (taking hormones and unnaturally altering your makeup). However, the broader issue deals with how society sees this issue and the process. The passionate fight against accepting transsexuals is concerning to me. Mostly because I see an overwealming desire to resist change, and to define life and living by a religious standard. When science is brought into the discussion, it is usually done without a broad knowledge on the subject. For example, scientifically gender is defined in binary terms, but we see examples that clearly reject this definition in terms of sex. And so we should also, imo, see gender as sometimes rejecting the binary definition as well.

Cross dressing, true mental disorders, men or women being raised or molded into an opposite gender identification can all contribute to the lack of understanding about gender as a spectrum.

It just goes back to the same argument over and over......spectrum versus a binary state. It’s not as absolute as people want it to be, and not as arbitrary as others want it to be either.
 

Pospecteer

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Instead try:

In this thread, we see liberals being misogynists even when their party’s main platform is based on fighting against misogyny.

It doesn’t make your statement correct, but at least it’s readable.

Thanks Mrs. Bee, I will try harder next time I write on a message board.
 

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You obviously have never been part of a team. Teachers union or fraternities dont count. No teammates likes individuals that are causing drama or distractions. They will give it lip service but everyone hates it. Coaches the most. She can protest ! I'm all about it ! Just use a different platform.

Totally agree. Pick a different forum and tell that audience what your protest is.
 

Pospecteer

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Cheese alert: I want to thank you for your post. This type of post is what I look for on here in discussions.

I think you, or at least your wife, have a unique perspective on this issue that most do not. I understand the difficulties created in this discussion from transitioning (taking hormones and unnaturally altering your makeup). However, the broader issue deals with how society sees this issue and the process. The passionate fight against accepting transsexuals is concerning to me. Mostly because I see an overwealming desire to resist change, and to define life and living by a religious standard. When science is brought into the discussion, it is usually done without a broad knowledge on the subject. For example, scientifically gender is defined in binary terms, but we see examples that clearly reject this definition in terms of sex. And so we should also, imo, see gender as sometimes rejecting the binary definition as well.

Cross dressing, true mental disorders, men or women being raised or molded into an opposite gender identification can all contribute to the lack of understanding about gender as a spectrum.

It just goes back to the same argument over and over......spectrum versus a binary state. It’s not as absolute as people want it to be, and not as arbitrary as others want it to be either.


Society has created rules based off of survival, religion, urges, and just about everything else you can think of. Rules have evolved over time, some call it change, others try to call it evolution. Reality is, people should be able to believe what they want to believe. If you are religious and one of their core beliefs is that homosexuality is a sin, they should be able to practice those beliefs. That does not mean that they can discriminate or belittle those they disagree with, but they should be able to say what they believe in without being threatened.

This scenario used to be one-sided (religion), now it has pretty much reversed itself. I can see where some may feel justified in bullying others like they were bullied in the past, but I feel that society has reached that tipping point. You may disagree but that's America.
 

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Protection against discrimination, marriage recognition, ability to serve in military, transgender rights, more social acceptance...

She said she was inspired by Kap and knows what it feels like to not have equal rights under the flag
Let her go to Cuba with Kaperdick and live free under that flag......she could even sing and honor the murdering pieces of sh*t like che and fidel.......may dick can even give her one of his chi or fidel shirts that he soooooo proudly wears.
 

bornaneer

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She’s gay. Why would you think that advocating for your personal rights is “politics”?

It’s easy to call it noise when it doesn’t effect your life at all
I don't give two ***** if she is gay......she is another anti anything Trump and trashes him daily.......It's all about "politics".
 

bornaneer

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I took your advice.
By Alan Dershowitz;
When I was a college student, lawyers who represented Communists would be fired from academic positions. In parts of the South, lawyers who represented civil rights activists were fired. In some areas of the country lawyers who represented men accused of sodomy or women seeking abortions would be fired. Now Harvard College joins this Hall of Shame by firing Professor Ron Sullivan and his wife, Stephanie Robinson from their positions as Co-Deans of Winthrop House because Sullivan decided to represent a man accused of rape. The defendant is the highly controversial Harvey Weinstein, who is presumed innocent and has not yet been tried.

Many troubling arguments have been offered in defense of the decision not to renew Sullivan’s role as Dean of Winthrop house. The most common – and dangerous – is that students feel “unsafe” around a lawyer who is representing Weinstein.

Feeling “unsafe” is the new mantra for the new McCarthyism. It is a totally phony argument not deserving of any serious consideration. Any student who feels unsafe in the presence of two distinguished lawyers doesn’t belong at a university. They should leave and not force the firing of the professor. The “unsafe argument” could be made against a dean who is gay, Black, Muslim, Jewish, Republican or libertarian. No credence should be given to the argument, especially since the students apparently did not feel “unsafe” when Sullivan was representing a convicted double murderer.
 

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More importantly....no GD pics? This thread BLOWS
Enjoy

 

dave

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Cheese alert: I want to thank you for your post. This type of post is what I look for on here in discussions.

I think you, or at least your wife, have a unique perspective on this issue that most do not. I understand the difficulties created in this discussion from transitioning (taking hormones and unnaturally altering your makeup). However, the broader issue deals with how society sees this issue and the process. The passionate fight against accepting transsexuals is concerning to me. Mostly because I see an overwealming desire to resist change, and to define life and living by a religious standard. When science is brought into the discussion, it is usually done without a broad knowledge on the subject. For example, scientifically gender is defined in binary terms, but we see examples that clearly reject this definition in terms of sex. And so we should also, imo, see gender as sometimes rejecting the binary definition as well.

Cross dressing, true mental disorders, men or women being raised or molded into an opposite gender identification can all contribute to the lack of understanding about gender as a spectrum.

It just goes back to the same argument over and over......spectrum versus a binary state. It’s not as absolute as people want it to be, and not as arbitrary as others want it to be either.
I have a transgender family member. He has a mental condition. Super smart kid. Normal kid and then one day his crazy flipped on and he is a mental wreck. Go ahead and quote more blogs to me.