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yet another elite all star game with multiple top UK commits. I am sick of it. I have OAD fatigue!!! Why can’t we be more like IU and UL and not have to worry about top players coming to respective programs? Being a top team annually is truly wearing me down.
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I have no idea who you are but can you tell us one non 1st Rounder Cal has pushed out not named Ulis?



Lamb, both Harrisons, Johnson and I'm sure a few i can't remember. 1st round really does not mean that much anymore. And if you are going late or middle 1st..in a year you could better that. And why would you know. Who i am ?
 
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And you can't just leave Ulis off the list. Him and Skal both should of been encouraged to return. Ulis stock would of def gone up. Plenty of smaller point guards have been drafted high, just go look at Uconns roster over the past 10 years. Kemba Walker and others played coll ball more then 2 years. Doing just fine. Im not interested in Cals humanitarian efforts. Really im not. These kids a a lot of free opportunities to be successful. They will be fine regardless if they make it in the NBA. The difference is. They may not have FU money like Cal wants them to have. Im concerned about the return on the millions UK and the fans invest into this program. So save the sobby poor kid needs to take care of 3 generations of his family. Trust me. Everyone of these kids the day they signed with UK. Will have a oppurtunity to make really good money, may not be NBA money. But still better then most in this Country.
 
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I've always thought it interesting how a state like ours became such a hotbed for cheerleading.

-UK dominates the UCA division with 23 National titles
-UL has traditionally been the equivalent dominant force in the NCA division (more dance cheer)
-Morehead State consistently wins the All Girl and Coed Nation Title at their smaller division
-KY high schools such as George Rogers Clark, Bowling Green, Pikeville, Corbin etc etc are consistently winning at nationals. I watched all of HS nationals 7 or so years ago bc I was seeing a girl competing and it blew my mind how every division had a KY team place top 3.


Pikeville won their 3rd National Championship this year....
 
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Lamb, both Harrisons, Johnson and I'm sure a few i can't remember. 1st round really does not mean that much anymore. And if you are going late or middle 1st..in a year you could better that. And why would you know. Who i am ?

And you can't just leave Ulis off the list. Him and Skal both should of been encouraged to return. Ulis stock would of def gone up. Plenty of smaller point guards have been drafted high, just go look at Uconns roster over the past 10 years. Kemba Walker and others played coll ball more then 2 years. Doing just fine. Im not interested in Cals humanitarian efforts. Really im not. These kids a a lot of free opportunities to be successful. They will be fine regardless if they make it in the NBA. The difference is. They may not have FU money like Cal wants them to have. Im concerned about the return on the millions UK and the fans invest into this program. So save the sobby poor kid needs to take care of 3 generations of his family. Trust me. Everyone of these kids the day they signed with UK. Will have a oppurtunity to make really good money, may not be NBA money. But still better then most in this Country.




Pretty much what I thought.

You should read here more often so you don’t look stupid.

It is not only common knowledge but also in the media that Cal not only told many of those you listed to come back but was very frustrated with some especially Dakari.

So if you don’t know basic UK info you might want to post wrong info elsewhere because these posters are very much up to date.

1st Round means everything because the money is set for 3 years and guaranteed. Again, any idiot is aware of this.

You will not find anyone to agree with that pathetic take on Ulis.

There is no way he could match all the accolades he received his sophomore year.

The only thing left for Tyler was to be exposed his junior year when teams began to focus on him.

So your opinions are not only pathetically comical but factually wrong.

Again I suggest you read more and let us guess if your are a fool or not instead of posting and proving it.
 
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Lamb, both Harrisons, Johnson and I'm sure a few i can't remember. 1st round really does not mean that much anymore. And if you are going late or middle 1st..in a year you could better that. And why would you know. Who i am ?
Um who says cal pushed them out? Lottery picks yea he tells them to go!
 
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Pretty much what I thought.

You should read here more often so you don’t look stupid.

It is not only common knowledge but also in the media that Cal not only told many of those you listed to come back but was very frustrated with some especially Dakari.

So if you don’t know basic UK info you might want to post wrong info elsewhere because these posters are very much up to date.

1st Round means everything because the money is set for 3 years and guaranteed. Again, any idiot is aware of this.

You will not find anyone to agree with that pathetic take on Ulis.

There is no way he could match all the accolades he received his sophomore year.

The only thing left for Tyler was to be exposed his junior year when teams began to focus on him.

So your opinions are not only pathetically comical but factually wrong.

Again I suggest you read more and let us guess if your are a fool or not instead of posting and proving it.



Your a idiot..Cal did not go out of his way to keep any of those players. Show me one article that quotes Cal saying he was upset Johnson left. . Only thing Cal has said publicly about Johnson after he left. Is how proud he is. And how you can wk your way through the D leagues.. Cal with Johnson was happy for him. Not upset idiot. Stop getting your info off a mess board. And by the way dummy..just because your drafted in the 1st rnd dosent guarantee you.anything. ya you may get some crappy D league contract. But it sure as hell is not enough to set you for life. Back to the players. I've seen other coaches express concern and even anger when one of there guys leave when not ready. Show me just once when Cal has expressed nothing but support g or a kid leaving. Not saying he should slam the kid. But maybe say it was against your advice anything to show that our program dosent advocate or support it. So live in your dream world goofy. I promise you Cal wants as many guys in the NBA as possible. And from players mouths. Not message board chatter. Dummy. They say Cal pushes them out. So who should i believe. Players who we're their? Or a dummy with his head in the sand like you?
 

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Your a idiot..Cal did not go out of his way to keep any of those players. Show me one article that quotes Cal saying he was upset Johnson left. . Only thing Cal has said publicly about Johnson after he left. Is how proud he is. And how you can wk your way through the D leagues.. Cal with Johnson was happy for him. Not upset idiot. Stop getting your info off a mess board. And by the way dummy..just because your drafted in the 1st rnd dosent guarantee you.anything. ya you may get some crappy D league contract. But it sure as hell is not enough to set you for life. Back to the players. I've seen other coaches express concern and even anger when one of there guys leave when not ready. Show me just once when Cal has expressed nothing but support g or a kid leaving. Not saying he should slam the kid. But maybe say it was against your advice anything to show that our program dosent advocate or support it. So live in your dream world goofy. I promise you Cal wants as many guys in the NBA as possible. And from players mouths. Not message board chatter. Dummy. They say Cal pushes them out. So who should i believe. Players who we're their? Or a dummy with his head in the sand like you?
Picks 1 threw 30 is all guaranteed money! They still get the money if they are sent to the g League for pt! Monk spent a few days down there this year!
 

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Your kidding right. You do know Cal has told guys to go. Knowing they would not be a lottery pick.?
No! If you bring up Ulis as an example a lot people thought he’d be a first rounder. No one that was expected to be a second rounder or undrafted!!!
 
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Picks 1 threw 30 is all guaranteed money! They still get the money if they are sent to the g League for pt! Monk spent a few days down there this year!





Not this life changing money Cal is talking about. Not Wall, Cousins money. Thats my point right there. Why not stay. Why doesnt Cal try to get them to stay. Or at least say you didnt agree, so tje next dosent think its ok. Why go make ****** money for 3 years. Then you could be out. Harrisons both should of came back. No question in my mind Cal pushed them out for the next crop. Sad and stupid. Both guys have struggled and had to get a little lucky to earn a spot in the NBA. Had they went when ready. Who knows. Probably easier. If your going to make bank, ya go. Just seems like nobody in the program is saying this is wrong and we don't agree with it..we will support this youngman. But in no way are we saying he should go. We dont hear that because it dosent happen. So UK loses out while the talent leaves. For really no reason. Honestly it's obvious. If Cal keeps this program as a turn style door for the NBA. And we keep losing out on titles, he will be ran out of town. People are looking back and saying what if. Reason is. Because we are not winning at a high level. We will.see. just saying its getting old. I honestly believe 2 more banners had players who.should have stayed. Stayed.
 

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Not this life changing money Cal is talking about. Not Wall, Cousins money. Thats my point right there. Why not stay. Why doesnt Cal try to get them to stay. Or at least say you didnt agree, so tje next dosent think its ok. Why go make ****** money for 3 years. Then you could be out. Harrisons both should of came back. No question in my mind Cal pushed them out for the next crop. Sad and stupid. Both guys have struggled and had to get a little lucky to earn a spot in the NBA. Had they went when ready. Who knows. Probably easier. If your going to make bank, ya go. Just seems like nobody in the program is saying this is wrong and we don't agree with it..we will support this youngman. But in no way are we saying he should go. We dont hear that because it dosent happen. So UK loses out while the talent leaves. For really no reason. Honestly it's obvious. If Cal keeps this program as a turn style door for the NBA. And we keep losing out on titles, he will be ran out of town. People are looking back and saying what if. Reason is. Because we are not winning at a high level. We will.see. just saying its getting old. I honestly believe 2 more banners had players who.should have stayed. Stayed.
If Cal pushed them out and they ended up where they are I’m Pretty sure they wouldn’t be so closely with Cal still!
 

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No! If you bring up Ulis as an example a lot people thought he’d be a first rounder. No one that was expected to be a second rounder or undrafted!!!


OK the Harrison Twins. Bam. Many more. You do know not all of Cals players we're lottery picks. Hell he pushed Liggins out with a year left.
 

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If Cal pushed them out and they ended up where they are I’m Pretty sure they wouldn’t be so closely with Cal still!



What are you talking about ? I'm talking about what UK has lost. These youngmen live a very good lifestyle the min they sign with UK. Cal will take care of his own. Just wish he felt the same about UK.
 

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What are you talking about ? I'm talking about what UK has lost. These youngmen live a very good lifestyle the min they sign with UK. Cal will take care of his own. Just wish he felt the same about UK.
Still no proof he pushed them out!
 

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Guys i promise I'm going off what players have said, Ulis said. Cal said dont come to Ky unless your looking to leave in 2 years for the NBA. Well in 2 years guess what. Cal pushed him out for Fox. Don't kid yourself. Its tiresome thinking what could if been had guys stayed. Instead we are losing now. Not even winning. So of course people will ask. Why did and are these guys leaving?
 

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I miss the days of Tubby, when we didn’t have to worry about bringing in top talent and we had guys who stayed four years. We really had the chance to get to know them! We also never really contended for titles but at least we knew who the players were as people.
 

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I miss the days of Tubby, when we didn’t have to worry about bringing in top talent and we had guys who stayed four years. We really had the chance to get to know them! We also never really contended for titles but at least we knew who the players were as people.




Really guy really ? You think thats what anyone is saying. Good job deflecting. No one is saying that goof. But a group that is growing. Is saying and asking why are these youngmen leaving? Also asking what could of been ? So stop the. Childish owe wish Tubby blahblahblah
 

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I miss the days of Tubby, when we didn’t have to worry about bringing in top talent and we had guys who stayed four years. We really had the chance to get to know them! We also never really contended for titles but at least we knew who the players were as people.



And guess what stupid. Some people do miss having players around more then 8 months. If the kid is ready. Go. With the full BBN behind you. A lot of people are voicing concerns on some players who left. And some info coming out. Is Cal pushing them out to make room for a recruit.
 

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Your a idiot..Cal did not go out of his way to keep any of those players. Show me one article that quotes Cal saying he was upset Johnson left. . Only thing Cal has said publicly about Johnson after he left. Is how proud he is. And how you can wk your way through the D leagues.. Cal with Johnson was happy for him. Not upset idiot. Stop getting your info off a mess board. And by the way dummy..just because your drafted in the 1st rnd dosent guarantee you.anything. ya you may get some crappy D league contract. But it sure as hell is not enough to set you for life. Back to the players. I've seen other coaches express concern and even anger when one of there guys leave when not ready. Show me just once when Cal has expressed nothing but support g or a kid leaving. Not saying he should slam the kid. But maybe say it was against your advice anything to show that our program dosent advocate or support it. So live in your dream world goofy. I promise you Cal wants as many guys in the NBA as possible. And from players mouths. Not message board chatter. Dummy. They say Cal pushes them out. So who should i believe. Players who we're their? Or a dummy with his head in the sand like you?



You are a pathetic idiot if you do not know the story of Dakari and Cal voicing his frustration in public.

“What would you do if he were your kid? I’ve had probably four kids absolutely should not have left, and left.”

You look it up dumbass. And with Dakari, he went much further but your knowledge of UK basketball sucks so bad that it's like arguing with 6 year old.


Start a thread titles was Cal against and frustrated with Dakari leaving?, and see how many people respond that actually know the story, about 80% or more here do.
 

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Not this life changing money Cal is talking about. Not Wall, Cousins money. Thats my point right there. Why not stay. Why doesnt Cal try to get them to stay. Or at least say you didnt agree, so tje next dosent think its ok. Why go make ****** money for 3 years. Then you could be out. Harrisons both should of came back. No question in my mind Cal pushed them out for the next crop. Sad and stupid. Both guys have struggled and had to get a little lucky to earn a spot in the NBA. Had they went when ready. Who knows. Probably easier. If your going to make bank, ya go. Just seems like nobody in the program is saying this is wrong and we don't agree with it..we will support this youngman. But in no way are we saying he should go. We dont hear that because it dosent happen. So UK loses out while the talent leaves. For really no reason. Honestly it's obvious. If Cal keeps this program as a turn style door for the NBA. And we keep losing out on titles, he will be ran out of town. People are looking back and saying what if. Reason is. Because we are not winning at a high level. We will.see. just saying its getting old. I honestly believe 2 more banners had players who.should have stayed. Stayed.



Again you are just so f-ing wrong its comical.
 

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Guys i promise I'm going off what players have said, Ulis said. Cal said dont come to Ky unless your looking to leave in 2 years for the NBA. Well in 2 years guess what. Cal pushed him out for Fox. Don't kid yourself. Its tiresome thinking what could if been had guys stayed. Instead we are losing now. Not even winning. So of course people will ask. Why did and are these guys leaving?



He never said to Ulis dont come to UK if you are not planning to leave in 2 years... another lie.

So f-ing stupid... LOL LOL LOL



"If you don't plan to be an NBA player, don't come here," Calipari said he told Ulis. "Don't let me hear all these people say, '(Calipari) has finally got a four-year point guard.' I don't want to hear that crap."

Not one mention of 2 years... you idiot.
 

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And guess what stupid. Some people do miss having players around more then 8 months. If the kid is ready. Go. With the full BBN behind you. A lot of people are voicing concerns on some players who left. And some info coming out. Is Cal pushing them out to make room for a recruit.



You calling someone else stupid..... the irony.

You have zero knowledge of some of the most basic topics and you call someone else stupid?


Dude crawl back in your hole and come back in 5 more years....
 

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He never said to Ulis dont come to UK if you are not planning to leave in 2 years... another lie.

So f-ing stupid... LOL LOL LOL



"If you don't plan to be an NBA player, don't come here," Calipari said he told Ulis. "Don't let me hear all these people say, '(Calipari) has finally got a four-year point guard.' I don't want to hear that crap."

Not one mention of 2 years... you idiot.




Lol. Ok thats not telling him he will leave early? You can spin it anyway you want. Hell it may of been OND in the interview i heard. The point is. He pushed him out. When he didn't have to. Ya lets keep going down this path. Its working so well now.
 

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You calling someone else stupid..... the irony.

You have zero knowledge of some of the most basic topics and you call someone else stupid?


Dude crawl back in your hole and come back in 5 more years....



Please point out what I'm missing. I'm giving examples of players and player interviews. In their own words saying Cal ripped up their scholly and said leave. So how about you show me some basic facts we're im wrong. Dummy.
 

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Lol. Ok thats not telling him he will leave early? You can spin it anyway you want. Hell it may of been OND in the interview i heard. The point is. He pushed him out. When he didn't have to. Ya lets keep going down this path. Its working so well now.
he didn’t push him out. Tyler’s stock was as high as it was ever going to get for a player of his size and he capitalized. And it’s payed off so far, because he’s still with the team that grabbed him. You can’t be as dumb as your posts suggest. I really hope for your sake that it’s an act for attention.
 

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Please point out what I'm missing. I'm giving examples of players and player interviews. In their own words saying Cal ripped up their scholly and said leave. So how about you show me some basic facts we're im wrong. Dummy.
gotta love the guy who’s posts have more grammatical errors than a unc term paper telling others that they’re stupid. Irony is awesome.
 

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Obviously not!! Lmao



Liggins didnt have another year ? Liggins could of stayed and still had the same NBA career. Cal sure as hell didn't convince him to stay. Some of you are so blind. Ya Cal really tried to convince him to stay. Lol.
 

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Lol. Ok thats not telling him he will leave early? You can spin it anyway you want. Hell it may of been OND in the interview i heard. The point is. He pushed him out. When he didn't have to. Ya lets keep going down this path. Its working so well now.


Ok, i just provided facts to back it up.

Can you provide ONE fact, link, or source to back up ANY of the crap you have been spewing?

If you dont know why Tyler left then you simply dont know things, and thats ok but dont start making ish up.


You will see me have a differing opinion with a few posters in a couple of threads.

However, the difference between you and @seccats04 , @CHAMPCAT11 , @ZaytovenCat , @Ripcord65 is that they actually know these events that you simply do not. So we can debate the actual issue which is more philosophy and system based.

They have my respect because it truly is a differing opinion.

You are trying to prove your opinion as factual by making crap up that EVERYONE here knows is not true.


Get caught up on the truth and come back with your opinions for a real debate.
 

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Liggins didnt have another year ? Liggins could of stayed and still had the same NBA career. Cal sure as hell didn't convince him to stay. Some of you are so blind. Ya Cal really tried to convince him to stay. Lol.


Do you know why Liggins left?
 

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Do you know why Liggins left?




He had a child..so why wouldnt he get a degree and possibly better his position. He also left because of other players coming in. And we all know Cal will play talent over experience.
 

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Ughhh your one of those who go way one way. And miss the point completely. If you can't see over the past 8 years that we had guys leave. Who shouldn't had or could of came back and bettered their draft position. Then your blind. Had players came back who should of and could have. UK would of hung at least 1 more banner. Bam came out just this week saying Cal ripped up his scholly. Said go take care of your family. Bam was drafted. But Bam was one of many players who could of came back for another year and bettered his position. And UK would of gotten a return. But our coach Dosent put UK first. Sorry he just dosent. And dosent hide it. So if a kid comes from a poor family. Cal feels the obligation to make them rich as fast as possible. OK..well Knox already came from a wealthy family. At 18 years old. He definitely could use another year. I'm curious how many players has Cal ripped up their scholly and pushed out the door ? Sorry guys. This OND no matter if your ready or not. Is wearing thin. Hell the Harrison twins could of bettered both of their positions. Why leave ? Is it Cal trying to make room for the next millionaire he can take credit for making ? Seriously starting to question Cals motives here. UK has missed out on a lot because Cal pushes guys out. Instead of convincing them to stay.

Another low post troll tries and fails. All the typing too.

So name some guys that Cal pushed out. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 
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I miss the days of Tubby, when we didn’t have to worry about bringing in top talent and we had guys who stayed four years. We really had the chance to get to know them! We also never really contended for titles but at least we knew who the players were as people.
Yeah, yall trashed the players and coaches then too.