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I have a Glock 29 10mm and shooting it is causing problems with my trigger finger as it hits the trigger guard at each fire. My 19 and 26 do not have this issue.

I use the 10mm when entering grizzly bear country. I have come upon two bears in the last two years each with cubs so those in the know understand the need for fire power.

What experience does anyone have with Springfield Armory's 10mm?

I do not want a 44mag revolver. I like the quick ease of trigger fire, volume capacity for quick repeat firing, and reliability of the striker fire.
 

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I have a Glock 29 10mm and shooting it is causing problems with my trigger finger as it hits the trigger guard at each fire. My 19 and 26 do not have this issue.

I use the 10mm when entering grizzly bear country. I have come upon two bears in the last two years each with cubs so those in the know understand the need for fire power.

What experience does anyone have with Springfield Armory's 10mm?

I do not want a 44mag revolver. I like the quick ease of trigger fire, volume capacity for quick repeat firing, and reliability of the striker fire.
Cant go wrong with a Springfield Armory IMO. I have they're 45 and it's pleasure to shoot. I need to get it in the single stack version to carry.
 

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I have a Glock 29 10mm and shooting it is causing problems with my trigger finger as it hits the trigger guard at each fire. My 19 and 26 do not have this issue.

I use the 10mm when entering grizzly bear country. I have come upon two bears in the last two years each with cubs so those in the know understand the need for fire power.

What experience does anyone have with Springfield Armory's 10mm?

I do not want a 44mag revolver. I like the quick ease of trigger fire, volume capacity for quick repeat firing, and reliability of the striker fire.

Do you have the factory spring in it and what grain bullet are you using? If you have the factory spring in it google 22 and 24 pound springs this may help recoil for 200 and 220 grain bullets. If you are not familiar with the high thumbs forward grip google that. It will also help with controlling recoil. For bear protection make sure you are using hardcast bullets or full metal jacket at a minimum. For hardcast bullets I would recommend a kkm barrel and upgrade your guide rod to stainless steel.
 
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Cant go wrong with a Springfield Armory IMO. I have they're 45 and it's pleasure to shoot. I need to get it in the single stack version to carry.

I used the MEUSOC pistol for years. I own a Range Officer in 45 and TRP in 10mm. I love them and enjoy shooting them like you. However I carry my glock 20 into the woods and fly fishing. No grip safety to malfunction. :wink:
 

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Marakov Arms was located just down the road from me when I moved back here. I nearly pulled the trigger on their 10 mm's a couple of times, but my cousin had one and said they were prone to fouling.

It was funny when Dubya said we were invading Iraq, they packed up their stock, shipped it to parts unknown, and closed up. I wonder why? ;)
 

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Do you have the factory spring in it and what grain bullet are you using? If you have the factory spring in it google 22 and 24 pound springs this may help recoil for 200 and 220 grain bullets. If you are not familiar with the high thumbs forward grip google that. It will also help with controlling recoil. For bear protection make sure you are using hardcast bullets or full metal jacket at a minimum. For hardcast bullets I would recommend a kkm barrel and upgrade your guide rod to stainless steel.
It's not a recoil issue as much as it is trigger/trigger guard. I actually like the confidence the pistol provides with its power/recoil. The issue is how close the trigger is to the guard combined with the width of the pistol and medium/small hand size. If the guard was down more or the trigger up more I would not have my finger rubbing on the guard at each shot. But honestly this pistol is only for the remote areas of Wyoming/Montana so if I have a little finger pain in the sudden event a bear comes at me and I live to tell about it, I'm good with the Glock as it is. I am though going to contact the Glock Store to see if they have a shorter trigger. I have purchased items from them in the past.

I use FMJ but couldn't at this point tell you the grain.
 

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Marakov Arms was located just down the road from me when I moved back here. I nearly pulled the trigger on their 10 mm's a couple of times, but my cousin had one and said they were prone to fouling.

It was funny when Dubya said we were invading Iraq, they packed up their stock, shipped it to parts unknown, and closed up. I wonder why? ;)
I was going to get one of their 9mm many years ago but they couldn't get a soviet version. Only Chinese and North Korean. I would have even settled for an East German version but they never had one. I have heard the same about Makarov's reliability.

I used to wonder why they closed.
 

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It's not a recoil issue as much as it is trigger/trigger guard. I actually like the confidence the pistol provides with its power/recoil. The issue is how close the trigger is to the guard combined with the width of the pistol and medium/small hand size. If the guard was down more or the trigger up more I would not have my finger rubbing on the guard at each shot. But honestly this pistol is only for the remote areas of Wyoming/Montana so if I have a little finger pain in the sudden event a bear comes at me and I live to tell about it, I'm good with the Glock as it is. I am though going to contact the Glock Store to see if they have a shorter trigger. I have purchased items from them in the past.

I use FMJ but couldn't at this point tell you the grain.

What you are describing is why I prefer the 20 over the 29. The 29 is only 3.7 inches so you are going to have more muzzle flip especially if you are not using the grip I described above. This will aggravate the issue you are having more due to the design of the 29. The new Sprinfield Armory XD -M is 4.5 inches and the grip is thinner and comfortable to shoot. If there is a place near where you live that rents guns at their range so you can test fire them maybe give it a try to see if you prefer it better. Also Rock Island Armory makes a 1911 10 mm double stack so you get 16 + 1. Those are a couple of 600 and 700 dollar options. For grizzly bears I would stick with 10mm over the 357 sig. The 357 sig is accurate, fun to shoot and would work great east of the Mississipi. If you are not familiar with Underwood Ammo check out their 180, 200 grain fmj and the 200, 220 hardcast bullets velocity numbers to what you are currently shooting. Not all bullets from manufactures are created equally.

If you can find a H@k 10mm like 82 said they make a great product that I would recommend to anyone.

If you decide to go the 1911 10 mm platform like Springfield Armory, Colt Delta, Sig, or Dan Wesson I would recommend you go with a rail gun to add a light especially if you are sleeping in the field or going to be out after dark. Stream light and surefire are good options and once you decide on the gun and light configuration there are holster makers that will custom build a nice chest rig for you.

If you stick with glock research this company. I put a six inch in my 20 with 24 pound spring and upgraded the guide rod. Handles 220 hardcast bullets and handloads with no problems. A 20 to 22 pound spring should work fine in the 29.

https://kkmprecision.com/product/29-match-10mm-4-50-2/

The glock store offers this procedure or a DIY dremmel. There are YouTube videos if you are interested. I wouldn't but that's your call.

https://www.glockstore.com/Frame-Cut

Best of luck in finding something that you will enjoy owning and shooting.
 
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What you are describing is why I prefer the 20 over the 29. The 29 is only 3.7 inches so you are going to have more muzzle flip especially if you are not using the grip I described above. This will aggravate the issue you are having more due to the design of the 29. The new Sprinfield Armory XD -M is 4.5 inches and the grip is thinner and comfortable to shoot. If there is a place near where you live that rents guns at their range so you can test fire them maybe give it a try to see if you prefer it better. Also Rock Island Armory makes a 1911 10 mm double stack so you get 16 + 1. Those are a couple of 600 and 700 dollar options. For grizzly bears I would stick with 10mm over the 357 sig. The 357 sig is accurate, fun to shoot and would work great east of the Mississipi. If you are not familiar with Underwood Ammo check out their 180, 200 grain fmj and the 200, 220 hardcast bullets velocity numbers to what you are currently shooting. Not all bullets from manufactures are created equally.

If you can find a H@k 10mm like 82 said they make a great product that I would recommend to anyone.

If you decide to go the 1911 10 mm platform like Springfield Armory, Colt Delta, Sig, or Dan Wesson I would recommend you go with a rail gun to add a light especially if you are sleeping in the field or going to be out after dark. Stream light and surefire are good options and once you decide on the gun and light configuration there are holster makers that will custom build a nice chest rig for you.

If you stick with glock research this company. I put a six inch in my 20 with 24 pound spring and upgraded the guide rod. Handles 220 hardcast bullets and handloads with no problems. A 20 to 22 pound spring should work fine in the 29.

https://kkmprecision.com/product/29-match-10mm-4-50-2/

The glock store offers this procedure or a DIY dremmel. There are YouTube videos if you are interested. I wouldn't but that's your call.

https://www.glockstore.com/Frame-Cut

Best of luck in finding something that you will enjoy owning and shooting.
thank you. I just returned from Gander and they had a Glock 20. I believe it has all to do with the width of the pistol.

I checked the Glock Store link and I like the idea of the knuckle cut option. I'll call them.

thanks again.
 

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What you are describing is why I prefer the 20 over the 29. The 29 is only 3.7 inches so you are going to have more muzzle flip especially if you are not using the grip I described above. This will aggravate the issue you are having more due to the design of the 29. The new Sprinfield Armory XD -M is 4.5 inches and the grip is thinner and comfortable to shoot. If there is a place near where you live that rents guns at their range so you can test fire them maybe give it a try to see if you prefer it better. Also Rock Island Armory makes a 1911 10 mm double stack so you get 16 + 1. Those are a couple of 600 and 700 dollar options. For grizzly bears I would stick with 10mm over the 357 sig. The 357 sig is accurate, fun to shoot and would work great east of the Mississipi. If you are not familiar with Underwood Ammo check out their 180, 200 grain fmj and the 200, 220 hardcast bullets velocity numbers to what you are currently shooting. Not all bullets from manufactures are created equally.

If you can find a H@k 10mm like 82 said they make a great product that I would recommend to anyone.

If you decide to go the 1911 10 mm platform like Springfield Armory, Colt Delta, Sig, or Dan Wesson I would recommend you go with a rail gun to add a light especially if you are sleeping in the field or going to be out after dark. Stream light and surefire are good options and once you decide on the gun and light configuration there are holster makers that will custom build a nice chest rig for you.

If you stick with glock research this company. I put a six inch in my 20 with 24 pound spring and upgraded the guide rod. Handles 220 hardcast bullets and handloads with no problems. A 20 to 22 pound spring should work fine in the 29.

https://kkmprecision.com/product/29-match-10mm-4-50-2/

The glock store offers this procedure or a DIY dremmel. There are YouTube videos if you are interested. I wouldn't but that's your call.

https://www.glockstore.com/Frame-Cut

Best of luck in finding something that you will enjoy owning and shooting.
On the topic of ammo, check out Buffalo Bore. They make great hard cast ammo. It’s top notch quality and they actually get their velocities from regular guns....some ammo companies use long *** barrels to pump up their stats. It’s heavy for caliber and quite hot. More geared toward hunting or woods protection. I had a ruger gp100 in 357 mag and used some of their 180 gr. Noticeable difference in recoil and put it close to .41 mag territory. It’s worth checking out
 

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On the topic of ammo, check out Buffalo Bore. They make great hard cast ammo. It’s top notch quality and they actually get their velocities from regular guns....some ammo companies use long *** barrels to pump up their stats. It’s heavy for caliber and quite hot. More geared toward hunting or woods protection. I had a ruger gp100 in 357 mag and used some of their 180 gr. Noticeable difference in recoil and put it close to .41 mag territory. It’s worth checking out

Found the underwood 200 and 220 grain cycles more reliable in my glock 20 however I would definitely use buffalo bore in a revolver. Great product.
 

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thank you. I just returned from Gander and they had a Glock 20. I believe it has all to do with the width of the pistol.

I checked the Glock Store link and I like the idea of the knuckle cut option. I'll call them.

thanks again.

No problem. The Springfield Armory XD - M 10 mm grip is thinner and very comfortable if you get a chance to handle it. Might be a option if you don't like the thicker grip of the glock 20.
 

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thank you. I just returned from Gander and they had a Glock 20. I believe it has all to do with the width of the pistol.

I checked the Glock Store link and I like the idea of the knuckle cut option. I'll call them.

thanks again.

If you go this route I highly recommend the kkm 4.5 barrel I posted above. This will give you more velocity when firing 200 and 220 grain bullets. The 20 + pound spring and better quality guide rod offers several benefits. Dedendibility and better cycling for ammo I listed above. If you have a gen 3 or older it's an easy swap out if you want to fire weaker anmo on the range then adjust when you head to woods. This gets you out of the 40 Cal and into real 10mm. The heavier spring also makes collecting brass a one zip code operation.
 
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thank you. I just returned from Gander and they had a Glock 20. I believe it has all to do with the width of the pistol.

I checked the Glock Store link and I like the idea of the knuckle cut option. I'll call them.

thanks again.

Sir I am not sure if anyone has shared this with you as I don't know how much training you have had. But here is a drill you can practice to ensure you are not extending your trigger finger to far forward after firing a round. Google resting your trigger drills. If your rounds are grouping low left or left for right handed shooters it can be a indication that you are extending the trigger finger to far forward after firing. Could be another reason contributing to your trigger is getting beat up? If you already know this then disregard.

 

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Sir I am not sure if anyone has shared this with you as I don't know how much training you have had. But here is a drill you can practice to ensure you are not extending your trigger finger to far forward after firing a round. Google resting your trigger drills. If your rounds are grouping low left or left for right handed shooters it can be a indication that you are extending the trigger finger to far forward after firing. Could be another reason contributing to your trigger is getting beat up? If you already know this then disregard.


When I got my hk45 I was having that problem. It seated diff in my hand and I was curling my trigger finger instead of using the pad to pull back. Had to make a conscious effort to change my grip
 

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Sir I am not sure if anyone has shared this with you as I don't know how much training you have had. But here is a drill you can practice to ensure you are not extending your trigger finger to far forward after firing a round. Google resting your trigger drills. If your rounds are grouping low left or left for right handed shooters it can be a indication that you are extending the trigger finger to far forward after firing. Could be another reason contributing to your trigger is getting beat up? If you already know this then disregard.



 

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When I got my hk45 I was having that problem. It seated diff in my hand and I was curling my trigger finger instead of using the pad to pull back. Had to make a conscious effort to change my grip

Yes sir. Learning to reset your trigger without releasing your trigger finger to far will tighten your groups when firing multiple rounds. For those not familiar with the high thumbs forward technique I would recommend people Google some videos and watch. Ensure there is no gap in the support hand and grip hand. This will tighten those groups in multiple round engagement drills also.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gunworld.com/defense/reduce-recoil-with-a-high-thumbs-forward-grip/amp/
 

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This basic knowledge for some but if no one has every shared it with you guys then give it a try.

 

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Yes sir. Learning to reset your trigger without releasing your trigger finger to far will tighten your groups when firing multiple rounds. For those not familiar with the high thumbs forward technique I would recommend people Google some videos and watch. Ensure there is no gap in the support hand and grip hand. This will tighten those groups in multiple round engagement drills also.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gunworld.com/defense/reduce-recoil-with-a-high-thumbs-forward-grip/amp/
I don’t have small hands but they aren’t large. More like a surgeons than a boxer but one thing I’ve found is I def shoot better with a blockier grip. I put a beaver tail on my glock 23 to make the grip wider and it improved my shots. I’m not recoil sensitive but a slim grip just don’t mesh with me. I want it to feel like I’m holding a brick. May be straying from the topic but it’s one of those little subjective things that make a big difference.
 

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I don’t have small hands but they aren’t large. More like a surgeons than a boxer but one thing I’ve found is I def shoot better with a blockier grip. I put a beaver tail on my glock 23 to make the grip wider and it improved my shots. I’m not recoil sensitive but a slim grip just don’t mesh with me. I want it to feel like I’m holding a brick. May be straying from the topic but it’s one of those little subjective things that make a big difference.

Being in the military one learns to fight with what they give you and you just adapt. Some people think we have always gotten the best equipment. Those that have served just laughed. Most important takeaway is for those who read this is to practice with what they can afford in case they have to defend themselves and loved ones.
 

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Being in the military one learns to fight with what they give you and you just adapt. Some people think we have always gotten the best equipment. Those that have served just laughed. Most important takeaway is for those who read this is to practice with what they can afford in case they have to defend themselves and loved ones.
The tacti-cool community forgets you guys are armed by the lowest bidder. Bells and whistles are all fun but reliability and whatever is comfortable in my hand is the way to go. I’d rather practice with a $300 gun I know will go bang every trigger pull than some polished safe queen
 

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The tacti-cool community forgets you guys are armed by the lowest bidder. Bells and whistles are all fun but reliability and whatever is comfortable in my hand is the way to go. I’d rather practice with a $300 gun I know will go bang every trigger pull than some polished safe queen[

Glock 23 is a fine weapon. You can get a set of trijicon night sights for about 100 dollars. I would recommend those if you don't already have night sights on it.

 

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Glock 23 is a fine weapon. You can get a set of trijicon night sights for about 100 dollars. I would recommend those if you don't already have night sights on it.
I left the rear sights but put a Hi-viz red on the front. It’s cheap but I can see great. Put an extended mag release on as well. Glocks are awesome for easily swapping out little things. Shitload of aftermarket parts
 

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I left the rear sights but put a Hi-viz red on the front. It’s cheap but I can see great. Put an extended mag release on as well. Glocks are awesome for easily swapping out little things. Shitload of aftermarket parts

Cheap is glow in the dark paint. Don't sell yourself short. :wink:
 

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Has anyone heard anything new on the Glock 49 rumor? I'm holding off on a 10mm for hiking with the possibility of Glock coming out with the single stack 10mm (8+1). Basically a compact, slimmer version of the 10mm like the 48 is for the 9mm. If not my options for a compact (preference) 10mm for my cannae bag when we go out in the woods during the weekend. Any suggestions?

And yes I know, Im literally Hitler for posting this.
 

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I have a Glock 29 10mm and shooting it is causing problems with my trigger finger as it hits the trigger guard at each fire. My 19 and 26 do not have this issue.

I use the 10mm when entering grizzly bear country. I have come upon two bears in the last two years each with cubs so those in the know understand the need for fire power.

What experience does anyone have with Springfield Armory's 10mm?

I do not want a 44mag revolver. I like the quick ease of trigger fire, volume capacity for quick repeat firing, and reliability of the striker fire.

I've read this a few times and wonder if you have a G29sf? I was looking hard into that for a carry in my pack for hiking trips but prefer something a little bigger (G20). I just hate to drop money on a gen 4 Glock when the gen 5 or single stack will be out soon enough. Back to my point though, in trying out the G29 I held a G29sf and it felt way too small for a 10mm in my hands. I dont have issues with the trigger guard but maybe the 29 is just too small there.