Any chance Fran Brown?

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If he has worked with Kraft, he's definitely a candidate
So we fire Franklin for Fran Brown from Syracuse? That will move the needle (sarcasm) I think the hardest job in college football at the moment belongs to Kraft. Anything short of a 10 bell hire will reek of desperation, only to be matched by the frantic efforts to shore up donations to NIL and the Stadium. Our AD's neck is exposed.
 

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So we fire Franklin for Fran Brown from Syracuse? That will move the needle (sarcasm) I think the hardest job in college football at the moment belongs to Kraft. Anything short of a 10 bell hire will reek of desperation, only to be matched by the frantic efforts to shore up donations to NIL and the Stadium. Our AD's neck is exposed.

I picture Franklin watching Kraft’s PRESSER. o_O from the comfort of one of his nice homes and having a really good laugh.

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So we fire Franklin for Fran Brown from Syracuse? That will move the needle (sarcasm) I think the hardest job in college football at the moment belongs to Kraft. Anything short of a 10 bell hire will reek of desperation, only to be matched by the frantic efforts to shore up donations to NIL and the Stadium. Our AD's neck is exposed.
Fran is better than the light wts being mentioned by a bunch of no nothings.
Even better is his def coord., Elijay Robinson, a former PSU stud.
As a package deal could make an impact.
But people are gonna end up with Rhule.
Disaster in the making.
 
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Fran Brown

Fran Ganter

James Fran-klin

No. Enough with the Frans.
In 1993 I remember complaining to my Dad that Fran was a terrible offensive coordinator and with the talent on the roster we should be doing much more. Then there was 1994. Arm chair QB'ing is pretty easy but something I obviously am not so great at.
 
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I'm ok with 1 and 3, Stein, Diaz and Martin. Brady really interests me.
Guys and Gals, they are not going to hire anyone who isn't a power 4 HC. That narrows it down significantly. And if I'm right as I have stated before all the top tier guys are all off the table that brings the list to a handful of coaches, that we think we know.

Also it has been said (not by me) that they think they can wrap this up or want to wrap it up by Halloween. I still say Thanksgiving.
 
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Guys and Gals, they are not going to hire anyone who isn't a power 4 HC. That narrows it down significantly. And if I'm right as I have stated before all the top tier guys are all off the table that brings the list to a handful of coaches, that we think we know.

Also it has been said (not by me) that they think they can wrap this up or want to wrap it up by Halloween. I still say Thanksgiving.

By Halloween?

Penn State fan base: We got a rock.

😞
 

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Guys and Gals, they are not going to hire anyone who isn't a power 4 HC. That narrows it down significantly. And if I'm right as I have stated before all the top tier guys are all off the table that brings the list to a handful of coaches, that we think we know.

Also it has been said (not by me) that they think they can wrap this up or want to wrap it up by Halloween. I still say Thanksgiving.
#1 I believe this all to be true.
#2 I find this a terrible way to go about hiring a coach.
#3 How do you even wrap up a current coach by Thanksgiving, unless he misses his last game(s)?
 
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#1 I believe this all to be true.
#2 I find this a terrible way to go about hiring a coach.
#3 How do you even wrap up a current coach by Thanksgiving, unless he misses his last game(s)?
It would be done clandestinely through an agent, which would allow that coach to finish the season and then resign after the regular season ends. However, I’m skeptical that this will be done by the end of next week.
 
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It would be done clandestinely through an agent, which would allow that coach to finish the season and then resign after the regular season ends. However, I’m skeptical that this will be done by the end of next week.
That might be the way it gets done no matter who they hire. I said would be done by Thanksgiving I never said announced.

But I hope whoever it is they get in here sooner than later. That person has to save the guys currently on the team and the 2026 class plus recruit 2027. That's a tall order only the right guy can accomplish that's why I say it can't be a coordinator or a so-so hire.

Splash hire? I'm not sure there's one left out there unless Kraft can circle back around and pull off the miracle.
 

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Guys and Gals, they are not going to hire anyone who isn't a power 4 HC. That narrows it down significantly. And if I'm right as I have stated before all the top tier guys are all off the table that brings the list to a handful of coaches, that we think we know.

Also it has been said (not by me) that they think they can wrap this up or want to wrap it up by Halloween. I still say Thanksgiving.
#1 I believe this all to be true.
#2 I find this a terrible way to go about hiring a coach.
#3 How do you even wrap up a current coach by Thanksgiving, unless he misses his last game(s)?
Agreed. If Kraft is limiting his choices to only current power 4 coaches, he should be relieved of his duties
 
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Agreed. If Kraft is limiting his choices to only current power 4 coaches, he should be relieved of his duties
Especially this year with so many openings, and especially this year where there seems to be no option without baggage among P4 coaches…
Diaz, didn’t win at Miami.
Rhule
Schiano lol
Campbell fits, but with Wisconsin opening looming, another competitor since common belief is he wants to stay Midwest.

Who else? Drink, ok, but now you’re competing with Florida, eventually FSU, at a minimum.
 

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Especially this year with so many openings, and especially this year where there seems to be no option without baggage among P4 coaches…
Diaz, didn’t win at Miami.
Rhule
Schiano lol
Campbell fits, but with Wisconsin opening looming, another competitor since common belief is he wants to stay Midwest.

Who else? Drink, ok, but now you’re competing with Florida, eventually FSU, at a minimum.
Hartline’s name seems to be gaining some steam. Risky but could also be a superstar.
 

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Agreed. If Kraft is limiting his choices to only current power 4 coaches, he should be relieved of his duties
Some people you may have heard of are saying the same thing. Say hello to Manny Diaz? He would appease the JoePa Tree crowd too because he's been here and they liked him.

Would you not take a Drinkwitz Lea Brown Campbell Key Diaz over Franklin 2.0 Matt Rhule. While I don't think we land him Freeman has yet to say no to PS but has said no to FL.
 

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Fran Brown’s current staff is impressive.

Notable names

Offensive coordinator- Jeff Nixon, yeah that Jeff Nixon (welcome home)
Defensive coordinator- Elijah robinson (welcome home)
Nunzio Campinile (former Rutgers interim head coach)
Josh Gattis, offensive quality control
Dwight Freeney, player development
They don't win to many games though.
 

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Some people you may have heard of are saying the same thing. Say hello to Manny Diaz? He would appease the JoePa Tree crowd too because he's been here and they liked him.

Would you not take a Drinkwitz Lea Brown Campbell Key Diaz over Franklin 2.0 Matt Rhule. While I don't think we land him Freeman has yet to say no to PS but has said no to FL.
Drinkwitz - absolutely (he’s my top choice actually)

Lea - no
Brown - no
Campbell - yes
Key - yes
Diaz - 50/50

I’d take Bob Chesney over all except Drinkwitz
 
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Drinkwitz - absolutely (he’s my top choice actually)

Lea - no
Brown - no
Campbell - yes
Key - yes
Diaz - 50/50

I’d take Bob Chesney over all except Drinkwitz
Lea is actually setup to move on from Vandy based on his current tenure length I also doubt Diego can get any more eligibility.

go to that well once more?

Didn’t realize that GT OC Faulkner—has some Georgia roots just like brown. Would he leave Key ? Key may not leave GT
 

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Drinkwitz - absolutely (he’s my top choice actually)

Lea - no
Brown - no
Campbell - yes
Key - yes
Diaz - 50/50

I’d take Bob Chesney over all except Drinkwitz
I like Chesney a lot. Why no Lea or Keys?
 

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I get where they are coming from considering he won 70 percent of his games and was just in the national semi finals last year. Having said that because of the exorbitant salaries college football is more of a year to year job now. You don’t get paid 8 million a year to be 3-3 or get beat by Ohio State every year. Coaches have to take the good with the bad.

And, by getting rid of Coaches with “70 percent“ winning percentages who were “just in the national semi finals last year“, impatient fan bases, donors, and chronic complainers “will have to take the good with the bad”.
 
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Cignetti has a total contract value of $72 million, with the contract running through November 30, 2032, He has a 56.7m buyout. Add to that that he has succeeded at Indiana and has his club in the top 5 for the first time ever, there is zero and I mean zero pressure to produce more than he already has. He can stay and build on his success rather than come to a toxic environment that will be intensified by the mass exodus of players and recruits. What is the incentive for a man his mid-60s? Rebuild Penn State? Why? He has already accomplished this at Indiana which was a much harder sell.

As for Rhule, he has a career record of 2 and 23 against AP Top 25-ranked opponents as a college head coach, which includes a 1-11 record at Baylor and a 1-12 record at Nebraska. He also lost 14 consecutive games to ranked teams from late 2016 until until October 2024 when they were obliterated by Indiana. To me that is James Franklin 2.0. He would be good at steadying the program after its jump off the cliff, but he will not be the guy to beat the top tier teams he faces. Or, high floor, low ceiling.

This is arguably the best job open at the moment, but whoever steps up to do it needs to have nerves of steel to tune out fan expectations which will be unreasonable.
1. LSU #1 with ease
2. Probably Florida because of the SEC
3. You guys are #3 and if Sark leaves for the pros you slip to #4 in a hurry. Hopefully your AD has a plan.
 

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Drinkwitz - absolutely (he’s my top choice actually)

Lea - no
Brown - no
Campbell - yes
Key - yes
Diaz - 50/50

I’d take Bob Chesney over all except Drinkwitz
Chesney - Yes
Lea - Yes
Diaz - Yes I think he is a better HC now than he was at Miami.
Key - probably stays @ GT or moves to one of the openings in the South
Campbell - No
Brown - No