Any non-medical redshirts this year?

[jibip]

I've been thinking about our likely rotation this coming year, and I think there's 9 for sure to get regular minutes:
Jackson, Allen, Tatum, Jefferson, Jones, Kennard, Jeter, Bolden.

I think it's going to be really difficult for White, Robinson, DeLaurier, Vrankovic, or Obi to see much time, if any, on the floor. Any chances any of them decide to do a redshirt year in order to save some eligibility for down the road as their games and bodies mature?

I thought White already said no, but there may be a reality check at some point. I just know if any of them play a minute in any game this season, the whole season of eligibility is lost. I would think any of Robinson, Vrank, or White should at least consider it in regards to what they want to do.

 

[timo0402]

I've been thinking about our likely rotation this coming year, and I think there's 9 for sure to get regular minutes:
Jackson, Allen, Tatum, Jefferson, Jones, Kennard, Jeter, Bolden.

I think it's going to be really difficult for White, Robinson, DeLaurier, Vrankovic, or Obi to see much time, if any, on the floor. Any chances any of them decide to do a redshirt year in order to save some eligibility for down the road as their games and bodies mature?

I thought White already said no, but there may be a reality check at some point. I just know if any of them play a minute in any game this season, the whole season of eligibility is lost. I would think any of Robinson, Vrank, or White should at least consider it in regards to what they want to do.

Robinson redshirted last year. Honestly forgot about Vrank, I think he should consider it. White won't play, so he should consider it. There will be a lot of blowouts for these guys to get some burn though.

 

[Dattier]

You got the # right, but left Harry off the list. I agree that with few exceptions, those 9 will play in every game. I suspect the rotation will tighten to 8, if not more, in the final 5 minutes of a tight game. Since Amile and Harry can and will play the 5 some, I suspect Chase or Marques will eventually see few late minutes. In the backcourt, Frank's youth makes him the odds-on fave to see less PT at crunch time.

It is going to be very difficult for others to crack that line-up. Justin has already redshirted, though. Obi, too, and he'd have to apply for a medical hardship for a 6th year or something. A lot of that, though, may depend on what a redshirt year is really going to accomplish. Is a 5th year Vrank going to earn PT with 2-3 likely McDAAs in the post? It's a no-brainer if a guy gets hurt, but by choice? I don't know that I see the point unless there's a really good chance it's going to result in contributions later.

 

[skysdad]

Robinson redshirted last year. Honestly forgot about Vrank, I think he should consider it. White won't play, so he should consider it. There will be a lot of blowouts for these guys to get some burn though.

I agree with White and Vrank red shirting both for the good of them and the future for Duke. We don't know for sure what lies ahead as far as recruiting goes and there's always the chance of transfers but to disagree with myself there's always the chance of multiple injuries which has happened and mid-season transfers which has happened. I guess I'm just confused. . Just happy to be a fan and not have to make decisions about what's best for our basketball team. OFC

 

[dukehokie]

Neither White or Tony will redshirt. Tony has the best chance to see any of the floor of the two but I don't know that he'll get much chance unless Amile is not fully healed which he seems to be. If Tony sticks it out, he'll be our "Zoubek" type by next season. He's been showing some good things.

I don't anticipate any redshirts this season unless K can talk White into it which neither party really wants at this point. The staff wanted it at one point, but now not as much.

 

[jibip]

i hear ya, it's always up to the player. I just want them to make the best decisions for themselves, and Duke will be fine.

 

[Dattier]

Why wouldn't someone take a redshirt? Is it more an unrealistic hope of earning PT or the principle of being prepared to play if needed?

 

[dukehokie]

Why wouldn't someone take a redshirt? Is it more an unrealistic hope of earning PT or the principle of being prepared to play if needed?

I know Tony wants to finish school and either get a shot in the League or head overseas to play in Greece like his dad. Obviously plans can change.

Jack also wants to get out and play overseas if he is not NBA caliber. Plus if he wants to play for Australia in the Olympics in 2020 (which he wants to), the Boomers typically take pro players either NBA, high level Europe or the NBL in Austrailia. A redshirt would cramp his style.

 

[jamsession3]

Why wouldn't someone take a redshirt? Is it more an unrealistic hope of earning PT or the principle of being prepared to play if needed?

I've been pro - redshirt for years. It would save eligibility, provide pt down the road, keep scholarship, and get better as a team/individual player.

There are a number of players in the last 6 to 8 years that should have taken advantage of the RS. If you transfer, you sit regardless...unless it's special case

 

[dukehokie]

I've been pro - redshirt for years. It would save eligibility, provide pt down the road, keep scholarship, and get better as a team/individual player.

There are a number of players in the last 6 to 8 years that should have taken advantage of the RS. If you transfer, you sit regardless...unless it's special case

For fans and even the staff most times, a redshirt is preferable, but trying to convince a kid to stick around five years is tough, even if it may be better overall for their career development. If my advisor told me to do 5 years instead of 4 to get a couple extra p chem and inorganic chem classes in, I don't know that I'd listen either.

 

[jamsession3]

For fans and even the staff most times, a redshirt is preferable, but trying to convince a kid to stick around five years is tough, even if it may be better overall for their career development. If my advisor told me to do 5 years instead of 4 to get a couple extra p chem and inorganic chem classes in, I don't know that I'd listen either.

Five years is an option. It does not mean you won't graduate in four? Nor go to pro in 2 or 3. It's an option.

Now in the past you have had certain players redshirt and leave for pro in two or three years! Yes, it is rare, but it happens. Ben Mac out of Kansas did it...and I know he had eligibility issues, but by definition, he RS.

 

[dukehokie]

Oh yeah. I agree but it's just hard to convince 18 year olds that it can happen.

 

[dbav]

Why wouldn't someone take a redshirt? Is it more an unrealistic hope of earning PT or the principle of being prepared to play if needed?

I'm not saying I believe the same thing, but I would assume that taking a redshirt for these kids is accepting failure in a way. These are highly competitive kids that want to play at the highest level. Telling them to take a redshirt may seem to them like you're saying you don't think they can play at that level, even if that's not truly the case.

These kids want to show what they've got. They want to compete and be able to succeed. I can certainly see how being asked to take a redshirt could be something they will not accept. I admire that spirit despite it possibly impacting development.