There are a lot of things harder than winning a title for a coach. A manager that takes the Pirates to the playoffs has done a better job than a manager who wins a World Series with the Dodgers. Winning with a lot less talent is a lot harder than winning with more talent. Going 13-0 and winning your conference then losing in the playoffs is a great year especially for a team like Indiana.
Disagree..for starters the Pirates have a pitching staff more than capable of that while the Dodgers have completely different issues with trying to win. How many times have we seen someone try to buy a title and fail?
The point is Smart, Saban and Meyer inherited blue blood programs. Yes, they had to work to get players but they were placed into a highly advantageous position. Again great coaches, not disputing that. Cignetti creatively used the portal and developed guys from JMU. Heck this guy Daley who unfortunately is injured was at Kent State.
Right...we'd likely disagree in your scenario but I would see the argument and understand your point. And if he beat Smart a couple times during that I'd consider it but it's just all premature now.
Next 3-5 years are important to see how he can sustain the success and possibly win a NC.
Ed Ogeron is another one you look at and say how in the world did he win a NC? I guess the simple answer is Joe Burrow.
That's what happens at programs that historically have not success. They don't know how to celebrate without getting hurt.
I think Indiana fans will be happy with his season and him regardless of what happens in the playoffs. So winning with the most talented team is harder than winning with less talent…wow, that’s a new take I have never heard before. Definitely spoken like a person who’s never coached before.
You've never heard anyoen speak about how difficult it is to manage the egos of a team like the Dodgers?
I coached for 25 years and I learned enough to know that it’s easier to win when you have better players. I did not make excuses, but I also didn’t claim every win was because of my coaching genius. If you think every loss is your fault, then you also have to think every win was because of you and that’s some next level arrogance.
"Easier"
Or humility…own your poor decisions, but give credit to your players when you’re successful. But that doesn’t mean every loss is your fault. You can coach a great game and still lose, it’s not PlayStation.
You can give players credit (as well as blame) while owning your record
That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. You don’t have to blame anyone for every loss, sometimes you just get beat by a better team. Sometimes your players just play a bad game. It’s sports, one team wins and one team loses. It’s not always on the coach and to think so is very narrow minded.
Any loss has blame--it always has. Even when you lose to a better team--why didn't you build a better team? why are you doing a better job with development? why aren't you finding a way to limit the difference? A loss is a loss period.
So it was UT Martin’s coach’s fault they lost to Georgia….got it. If he would have done a better job, they would have won. That’s hilarious. And if Nick Saban took over a D-2 team, he would win a NC at the D-1 level…after all he’s the best coach ever, right?
Yes, he gets an L and lost the game. Period.
You know nothing about how I coached. And yes, he gets an L, but it wasn’t his “fault” he lost. He lost because the other team had far better players and there was nothing he could do to change that. I’m guessing the only thing he learned from it was that Georgia had way better players and a lot more of them.
Yes, accept responsibility for the outcome. Period.
So explain this to me…I knew a guy who coached girls basketball at a basketball power house. He won multiple championships and coach of the year awards and was considered the best coach in the area. He stepped down to take a break then decided he missed it and came back as the coach at a small inner city school that could barely field enough players for a team. He coached there three years and never had close to a winning record. Did he suddenly become a bad coach who never learned anything?
There’s a difference between being responsible and being at fault. Just like if a hail storm damages your house, you’re responsible, but not at fault.
Responsibility is "the state or fact of being accountable or to blame for something"
Well I'm happy that another Indiana team did not make the CFP. Hoosier your daddy? lol
