If you can't handle the Force Awakening in that thread by the Star Wars fanatics then GTFO.
Anyone else kind of disappointed in the new Star Wars movie?
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If you can't handle the Force Awakening in that thread by the Star Wars fanatics then GTFO.
No definitely not. 1,2,3 were awful.. But let's be honest. 1,2,3 could've been done any time ever. You can always do a young Vader/Obi Wan ****, but no. Disney Abrahams turned this MF'er into a Star Trek action movie( only thing missing was Michael Bay). Episode 7 is garbage. It's like Metallica fans rationalizing that the Black album was actually good.
I really enjoyed it, but there were a looooot more substantive similarities than that. Right up some peoples' alley, others not so much.
I, II, and III could have been better movies with a competent director at the helm. The worlds were cooler, the characters were more fleshed out and interesting, and they were wholly different from the first trilogy while still being of the Star Wars ethos.
Again, they were garbage movies for a lot of reasons. But at least they tried to be something other than a New Hope reboot minus any explication or character development
Again, they were garbage movies for a lot of reasons. But at least they tried to be something other than a New Hope reboot minus any explication or character development
The phantom menace was on the same sand planet with a force kid who shows off his piloting skills , the wise father figure dies in the exact spot Han and Obi Wan died at in the movie and at the end a hero had to fly up to a space station and destroy it.
The entire scene where they are on Han's freighter is a new and original scene. How did you feel about that part of the movie?
The entire scene where they are on Han's freighter is a new and original scene. How did you feel about that part of the movie?
Man, the Black Album is a good anaolgy, and you may be right. That being said, its a movie about swords made of light, super humans that lived a long time ago, giant space ships, etc. If we are really going to go this route of "Nah, there is no character development, or whatever (which there is)," then really the whole concept is dorky as hell. Its about space cowboys where one kills his father to save the galaxy. Its hokie. Of course there are plot holes, its about touching flying in outerspace and bad guys that go pew pew. Mark Hammill is a terrible actor. Carrie Fisher uses the line "nerf herder." I mean, the original star wars is a campy B movie that just became permeated into our culture. Much like sharknado. We stopped seeing how bad it was, and accepted it.
I am a huge star wars fan, (touching dork), but if we are going to break it down to some masterpeice, it isnt. Its a fun movie. Most are just having fun with it.
Watch dude hit his head on the right
Again, the majority of those movies were awful. And yes, there was some rhyming with the original. But it wasn't even close to the similarities in TFA and ANH.
Maybe if TFA had interesting subplots you could take the hero story as just a recurring theme of the Star Wars universe, but since that's all there was then the similarities are more glaring
Maybe if TFA had interesting subplots you could take the hero story as just a recurring theme of the Star Wars universe, but since that's all there was then the similarities are more glaring
LEKs post sums up what's happening to Star Wars. They were great movies for their time - that now are looked back at as campy b movies with bloopers due to how awful the prequels have been and how vanilla Episode VII was. Episode VIII has the potential t revive the whole movie franchise before its just seen as a dorky campy b level movie series.
I would disagree that the originals are "campy" or B movies in any respect. The effects may not have aged tremendously well and the acting was subpar, but the cinematography, universe building, and characters are legitimately some of the best in mainstream cinema of the last 50 years.
That's my whole point. The originals were flawed, but brilliant in a lot of respects. Episode VII was perfect, but bland
That's my whole point. The originals were flawed, but brilliant in a lot of respects. Episode VII was perfect, but bland
Sorry Ron Mehico, but vast majority of people liked the movie so Ep. 7 has revived the franchise. its up to Episode 8 to keep it going.
Episode 7 is ultimately going to be judged by the trilogy as a whole.
Episode 7 is ultimately going to be judged by the trilogy as a whole.
Ep VII did revive it, I agree actually, I probably used the wrong verbiage for that one. But episode VIII really needs to deliver with a great, compelling plot IMO.
Star Wars' success, IMO, was at least 80% sourced from the introduction of the lightsaber. Another 10-15% probably came from the utilization of the Force for attacks like the choke and mind tricks. Had nothing to do with the story or quality of the film.
I wasn't alive to see the original in theaters but I was able to see them when they rereleasd them in theaters in the 90's. On the big screen, they are magical.
It's easy to see why they were such a big hit in the 70's. The effects just had not been seen anywhere before.
Probably the closest comparison is Jurassic park. The cgi just blew everything else away and established it as a cultural touchstone in the same way Star Wars did in the 70's.
It's easy to see why they were such a big hit in the 70's. The effects just had not been seen anywhere before.
Probably the closest comparison is Jurassic park. The cgi just blew everything else away and established it as a cultural touchstone in the same way Star Wars did in the 70's.