Anyone Here Have An Electric Car?
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The fact that Elon can make that terrible sales pitch sounds like literal crack cocaine to a bunch of hipster dorks is hilarious to me.
Hey want to sign up for a ridiculously priced "subscription" in the hopes that one day we will allow you to use the vehicle you already purchased to kinda-sorta if you squint maybe drive for you, kinda? Sign right here!
Props to the Dogefather for selling another half-baked idea to the masses as the bleeding edge of progress, I guess.
While EVs continue to improve there are more cons than you listed including:
Cost- EVs are quite a bit more expensive and fewer models quality for the full tax credit due to imported batteries. Those credits might be going away altogether under Trump making the cost difference thousands higher.
Weight- EVs are heavier than similar ICE vehicles which leads to tires wearing out 20-25% faster and lessor handling capability.
Trade in value- EVs retain less value over time due concerns about battery life.
Expensive Accidents- EV batteries are vulnerable in collisions making repairs more expensive.
Higher Insurance cost- EVs are 10%-20% more expensive to insure than comparable ICE cars due to higher vehicle cost and more expensive repairs.
Have we done away with the BS tax credit for these things yet? That's just DEI for vehicles.
I noticed none of them replied to you. I figured some of them like @JDHoss would have been good for a laughing emoji.
****, if I had seen that Ida had posted it, I’d have hit the
just for you. 
EVs are cool, come on come on. EVs are Cool!!! What up, What up?!! EVs are Cool
In other words, you have your head in the sand and don't want to acknowledge it.
I never thought older conservative people would come around to electrification. It’s so refreshing to see them switch so quickly and have such deep support for electric car companies and the charging networks. I know they really care about the environment and sustainability. Kudos, guys!
I’ve done the math on an EV for me driving usage, the local electrical rates, and current gas prices. It doesn’t make a damn bit of financial sense for me.
I’m just doing it based on a comparison of gas vs. what a middle of the road cost for installation of a charger and the increase in electrical expenses from charging. And honestly the cost to install a home charger would probably be more than middle of the road given how old the house is and how antiquated the electrical structure of the house is.
At current gas and electrical rates, It would take over 12 years for the cost of gas to break even with the cost of increased electrical usage and the cost of installation for a home charger at a middle of the road price.
Of course I know there are other factors to consider. But the economics of it don’t make a whole lot of sense for someone who drives less than 60 miles a week on average.
I’m just doing it based on a comparison of gas vs. what a middle of the road cost for installation of a charger and the increase in electrical expenses from charging. And honestly the cost to install a home charger would probably be more than middle of the road given how old the house is and how antiquated the electrical structure of the house is.
At current gas and electrical rates, It would take over 12 years for the cost of gas to break even with the cost of increased electrical usage and the cost of installation for a home charger at a middle of the road price.
Of course I know there are other factors to consider. But the economics of it don’t make a whole lot of sense for someone who drives less than 60 miles a week on average.
Did the same when I bought a 4 cylinder used Mercedes four years ago. At the time, think Teslas were maybe $60K, and it just did not make sense economically, esp since my A220 gets 38 MPG on the highway anyway. And I got it for half the price of the Tesla at the time.
You are 100% correct that there are other factors, e.g., EVs have a lot fewer moving parts and less maintenance, no oil changes (which cost a ton for Mercedes), amazing acceleration, etc. Further example are new Apple I phones are what, $1800 or so? And they keep selling them even though you can get a nice Samsung droid for a third the price that does 95% of what the I Phone does, so there is a "cool" factor in the newest technology.
However, just this week a Chinese EV maker announced it has a model that can recharge 250 miles in 5 minutes, which if true I think would be a game changer for EVs. Probably will keep my current car another 3 or 4 years then see what the EV options are at that time.
PS: THANKS to the mods who moved all the political comments off this thread.
Another possible game-changer:
Slate: Introducing the Bezos-backed EV pickup for the masses.
With only one form factor and color, the $25K cheap EV is aimed at regular Americans but embraces DIY culture with a myriad of aftermarket options.
Slate: Introducing the Bezos-backed EV pickup for the masses.
With only one form factor and color, the $25K cheap EV is aimed at regular Americans but embraces DIY culture with a myriad of aftermarket options.
It's too plain-jane looking IMO. A pickup should have a bit of a bad-*** look to it.
The cybertruck has been a marketing flop IMO for the same reason only worse.
This thing looks like a 1973 Datsun
I’m no engineer, but it seems like an electric car should be significantly easier to design/build/manufacture than a gas car. So many fewer moving parts. Certainly hope that’s the case and it can open the door to a lot of newer options.
I think very few Americans realize just how thoroughly the Chinese are kicking our asses in this market. BYD is just amazing.
I think very few Americans realize just how thoroughly the Chinese are kicking our asses in this market. BYD is just amazing.
I think it could look better with a truck topper on it or some rollbars, lights, and a lift kit. I always wanted something like a late 80's pickup that was setup like that when I was in my late teens/early 20's.It's too plain-jane looking IMO. A pickup should have a bit of a bad-*** look to it.
The cybertruck has been a marketing flop IMO for the same reason only worse.
This thing looks like a 1973 Datsun
I don't know if an electric vehicle can or should be lifted like that.
Yeah but rednecks hate them and want loud, huge trucks.
I wasn't being derogatory towards rednecks. My point is that the American consumer is going to be far more resistant to electric vehicles than a lot of people realize.
The only argument that matters is that building EV's is pointless if the majority of the E in EV comes from fossil fuels. Not only in the production, but the fuel that makes them, you know, GO...
/end of debate
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I like it.It's too plain-jane looking IMO. A pickup should have a bit of a bad-*** look to it.
The cybertruck has been a marketing flop IMO for the same reason only worse.
This thing looks like a 1973 Datsun
Small. Compact. Perfect for a retired couple to run errands around the area. Haul decent-sized loads.
Apparently, one can make some cool customization.I think it could look better with a truck topper on it or some rollbars, lights, and a lift kit. I always wanted something like a late 80's pickup that was setup like that when I was in my late teens/early 20's.
I don't know if an electric vehicle can or should be lifted like that.
Wow, can’t believe China is kicking our *** when for the last 35 years we’ve been moving every mfg plant there we possibly could.
I’d love to see some documentation for this claims of “trillions” in subsidies to the oil and gas industry.
I pulled in to a Spinx in Orangeburg, SC yesterday to fill up. They had a large EV charging area, and among the plugged up vehicles were a F-150 Lighting, a Silverado EV and Cybertruck. I don't understand how anyone could look at those three vehicles and think, "man, I love the look of that Cybertruck better than those other two".
Maybe, but the Lightning and Silverado were sharp, while the Cybertruck sat there looking like:
A - A mobile dumpster
B - An appliance with 4 tires
C - A high school sheet metal shop class project
D - Something I would have sketched when I was in the third grade.
I'll never understand how the people who made the final decision on whether to produce this abomination or not didn't laugh the design team out of the room before firing them.
It seems more likely that Musk can’t handle being told “no.”
Although, I do have respect for what Tesla and Musk attempted to do with the Cybertruck. Yes, it’s ugly as sin, but I appreciate the fact that they tried to do something bold. You don’t see that much from car manufacturers anymore.
As a car guy, I wish car companies tried to be different more often. That’s how you end up with legendary cars. The issue with trying something bold is that there’s also a higher risk of making a car that’s a total flop.
Unfortunately for Tesla, the Cybertruck is clearly in the total flop category. But while it may be incredibly ugly, it’s still an interesting vehicle and I appreciate that.
It also wouldn’t surprise me if in 20-30 years, we see whoever is making car content on YouTube create a video about how the Cybertruck was under appreciated and ahead of its time in some respects (lots of interesting cars from the past were also commercial flops).
But boy is it hard on the eyes. Can’t ever envision wanting to buy one of those things.
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If you still want an ev, gm has them BOGO!!!!
Buy a Silverado ev and get a blazer ev free.
If you still want an ev, gm has them BOGO!!!!
Buy a Silverado ev and get a blazer ev free.