Anyone know the legit JQ time frame to return?

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JQ was a horrible investment, IMO, ~$4M to have a player with non-contact practice or anything for at most three months of the season, if that, by the time he plays, they’ll be so tentative with him, his impact will be minimal, at best.
He is not 4M

I believe it is Trilly said that JQ is not even over 2M

2M is definitely worth investigating

I remember Trilly said Oweh, BG, Lowe are the most paid players
 

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I’ll say late December then he says it’s bothering him after one or two games then shuts its down then goes pro
Please still be positive after losing, bro

At this stage, the only thing we can do is hoping

If JQ actually does not play or exit after one or two games, then we can comment, but now it is useless to think in this way. Too early to tell.
 
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What’s he gonna do about it he can’t force him to get out there . He’s already been paid. If he comes back and struggles he can easily say his leg is hurting him again and be out again or just you know like you said pull a SS which wouldn’t surprise me at all
I think we should avoid guys who have those kinds of injuries prior to getting a basketball scolly. I know that might be harsh but if we know a player is injured with a year long injury Prior to playing for us why would we pay $4M for them.
I hope JQ can play but it feels like the chances are less than 50%. No facts to back that up but some of the theories on here seem plausible. He plays and then shuts it down and preps for the draft leaving us in the lurch.
 

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I think we should avoid guys who have those kinds of injuries prior to getting a basketball scolly. I know that might be harsh but if we know a player is injured with a year long injury Prior to playing for us why would we pay $4M for them.
I hope JQ can play but it feels like the chances are less than 50%. No facts to back that up but some of the theories on here seem plausible. He plays and then shuts it down and preps for the draft leaving us in the lurch.
He is not 4M...
 

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Please still be positive after losing, bro

At this stage, the only thing we can do is hoping

If JQ actually does not play or exit after one or two games, then we can comment, but now it is useless to think in this way. Too early to tell.
Your right. I do hope he plays sooner than later and shuts everybody up like me. I honestly want the best for the team. Ik the season isn’t over. I usually don’t freak out after losses.

It’s when I feel like we play charmin soft with no energy that makes me mad. Sucks to lose to Louisville but what kills me is they didn’t just beat us. Their energy was several notches above ours and we have veterans. How can you not get up for a rival game where they said F you all week.

That’s on Pope. I’m irritated about playing soft. That seems to be a recurring theme under Pope. I just can’t deal with getting punked. You lose some here and there but Kentucky should never get punked from tip to finish.
 
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Well I agree with you (that’s a first), but what are we to do about it? Stop being fans?

I mean honestly… what are YOU PERSONALLY going to do, bass? Because if your answer is “continue to cheer for the Cats”, then wtf is the point of lamenting it? The whole world pretty much sucks now, not just college basketball. Everything we grew up with is **** now. We can either adjust, or give up our fandom.
First off, I do the only thing constructive I can do. I watch and support the team. If you think you or anyone else can do anything different, then I’d suggest professional care. Second, I dunno about your life. Mine is good. Neither has any relevance to this team and it was pretty creepy you brought it up .
 

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Ok. Thats what I heard. If it's $2M does that make the situation more tolerable? It doesn't for me.
It's a crappy situation for him and us but my question is why would we take that risk especially after what happened with SS.
2M is definitely tolerable

You can potentially get a game changer at a lower price

At normal recover process, he will return in January or early February, still think he will play unless he actually skip. If he actually skip, then we can negatively comment about him. If he plays, your statement will be malicious.

And I don't think JQ's recruitment affects others

Our roster construction problem is not caused because of JQ... Add JQ or not does not influence other guys... We miss on Wilson/Dent/Yaxel/Wilkerson not because of JQ. The problem is we miss on other top guys...
 
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I think we should avoid guys who have those kinds of injuries prior to getting a basketball scolly. I know that might be harsh but if we know a player is injured with a year long injury Prior to playing for us why would we pay $4M for them.
I hope JQ can play but it feels like the chances are less than 50%. No facts to back that up but some of the theories on here seem plausible. He plays and then shuts it down and preps for the draft leaving us in the lurch.
I 100% agree get a guy that is 100% guaranteed to play whenever you first sign him. Could definitely see him playing less than a 1/3 or even a 1/4 of the season maybe 8-10 games and if he’s not playing well due to being out so long I’m afraid his agent will tell him to sit the rest of the season. People bounced around saying at first he’ll play at the start of the season then December now January or late January. By late January it’ll be to late . Could’ve gotten anyone in the portal that was healthy maybe that wasn’t as good defender but nobody on the team can defend anyway. Cause we sure didn’t focus on shooting. Louisville scored almost 100 pts that’s not elite defense as Matt jones Ryan lemon and jack pilgrim were saying. Pope supposedly built this team off defense only one good at defense is mo and Moreno sometimes. Otega isn’t the same for some reason not hitting the panic button yet but a lot has to change fast .
 
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Your right. I do hope he plays sooner than later and ***** everybody up like me. I honestly want the best for the team. Ik the season isn’t over. I usually don’t freak out after losses.

It’s when I feel like we play charmin soft with no energy that makes me mad. Sucks to lose to Louisville but what kills me is they didn’t just beat us. Their energy was several notches above ours and we have veterans. How can you not get up for a rival game where they said F you all week.

That’s on Pope. I’m irritated about playing soft. That seems to be a recurring theme under Pope. I just can’t deal with getting punked. You lose some here and there but Kentucky should never get punked from tip to finish.
We are all frustrated

But as for JQ, only thing we can do is wait and see...

Our attitude will not change any potential situations of JQ, so why not be more positive so we will be in a better mood.

Unless the final result is bad, why not stop make good wishing
 

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I 100% agree get a guy that is 100% guaranteed to play whenever you first sign him. Could definitely see him playing less than a 1/3 or even a 1/4 of the season maybe 8-10 games and if he’s not playing well due to being out so long I’m afraid his agent will tell him to sit the rest of the season. People bounced around saying at first he’ll play at the start of the season then December now January or late January. By late January it’ll be to late . Could’ve gotten anyone in the portal that was healthy maybe that wasn’t as good defender but nobody on the team can defend anyway. Cause we sure didn’t focus on shooting. Louisville scored almost 100 pts that’s not elite defense as Matt jones Ryan lemon and jack pilgrim were saying. Pope supposedly built this team off defense only one good at defense is mo and Moreno sometimes. Otega isn’t the same for some reason not hitting the panic button yet but a lot has to change fast .
As long as our final result is good, we make deep run with healthy JQ, the investment is worthy

If JQ is around 2M, you will not buy a game changer with this price, probably another Mo level player, and we probably are still good but not great.

If JQ recovers well, our ceiling will be pretty high

This is definitely high risk high reward investment

We will only know if it is successful after knowing final result

At this stage, it is too early to tell.
 

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He will play in December. He will be a difference maker on both ends of the floor especially D. He will be a top 10 draft pick.

It’s amazing how with ZERO information at all people just project that he won’t play, he took the money and ran, he’s just like SS etc etc. JQ is a good kid and a competitor, he is also very young still just turning 18 in July. Projecting your BS negative stigmas on 18 year old kids because of something a player did 4 years ago is so dumb.
 

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He will play in December. He will be a difference maker on both ends of the floor especially D. He will be a top 10 draft pick.

It’s amazing how with ZERO information at all people just project that he won’t play, he took the money and ran, he’s just like SS etc etc. JQ is a good kid and a competitor, he is also very young still just turning 18 in July. Projected your BS negative stigmas on 18 year old kids because of something a player did 5 years ago is so dumb.
Well, there is a precedent. I hope you are right about him playing.
I concede I'm kinda negative about the whole situation. I want the kid to play but I wanted Sharpe to play too. It's nothing against JQ personally, it's about recruiting kids that can suit up and play while we pay them good money.
I just paid a bunch of money to go to a game in December. So to me, I can have an expectation of UK putting their best players in the floor.
My point was to be clear about a kid being able to play once they are here rather than acting like a rehab center.
 

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Well, there is a precedent. I hope you are right about him playing.
I concede I'm kinda negative about the whole situation. I want the kid to play but I wanted Sharpe to play too. It's nothing against JQ personally, it's about recruiting kids that can suit up and play while we pay them good money.
I just paid a bunch of money to go to a game in December. So to me, I can have an expectation of UK putting their best players in the floor.
My point was to be clear about a kid being able to play once they are here rather than acting like a rehab center.
Even if he does play after 4-5 games If he doesn’t get into a groove then his agent could just tell him to sit . Hopefully none of it happens . 2 nd option is he’s struggling and says his leg is still bothering him. Will just see what happens will know if December is on the table in less than two wks. They’ll have to say something like he’ll be playing soon or whatever like more specific
 

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He will play in December. He will be a difference maker on both ends of the floor especially D. He will be a top 10 draft pick.

It’s amazing how with ZERO information at all people just project that he won’t play, he took the money and ran, he’s just like SS etc etc. JQ is a good kid and a competitor, he is also very young still just turning 18 in July. Projecting your BS negative stigmas on 18 year old kids because of something a player did 4 years ago is so dumb.
Why does the SS thing have to be the reason some don’t think he will play. I simply don’t think his knee will be healed good enough in time to give us what he came here for. I’m not mad at him for having a injured knee.
 
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Why does the SS thing have to be the reason some don’t think he will play. I simply don’t think his knee will be healed good enough in time to give us what he came here for. I’m not mad at him for having an injured knee.
It’s very possible JQ has no clue who Shaedon Sharpe even is. By all accounts, JQ sounds like a great kid and will be a weapon for us
 
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Your right. I do hope he plays sooner than later and shuts everybody up like me. I honestly want the best for the team. Ik the season isn’t over. I usually don’t freak out after losses.

It’s when I feel like we play charmin soft with no energy that makes me mad. Sucks to lose to Louisville but what kills me is they didn’t just beat us. Their energy was several notches above ours and we have veterans. How can you not get up for a rival game where they said F you all week.

That’s on Pope. I’m irritated about playing soft. That seems to be a recurring theme under Pope. I just can’t deal with getting punked. You lose some here and there but Kentucky should never get punked from tip to finish.
The Cards talked **** and backed it up got to give them credit
 
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Why does the SS thing have to be the reason some don’t think he will play. I simply don’t think his knee will be healed good enough in time to give us what he came here for. I’m not mad at him for having an injured knee.
I was addressing the posters who keep brining SS up was all. JQ is working out and hard, especially with agility and Plyo. I promise you he is healed enough to play. Now it’s about the final healing so it doesn’t get reinjured. There is no world where he doesn’t play IMO, I’ve already stated the NC Central or Indiana game for a likely first time to see the floor for him.
 
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I was addressing the posters who keep brining SS up was all. JQ is working out and hard, especially with agility and Plyo. I promise you he is healed enough to play. Now it’s about the final healing so it doesn’t get reinjured. There is no world where he doesn’t play IMO, I’ve already stated the NC Central or Indiana game for a likely first time to see the floor for him.
Well if he’s back by then that would be exciting. Even without him I like the team. If he comes back I do think his defensive presence will change our team completely.

that point guard from Louisville wouldn’t keep driving to the rim doing all that scoop shot circus stuff with JQ down low. He would look like that old UK mascot with the Wildcats Paw on the ball. Send it to the first row. I hope we get Louisville in our bracket. I’m not scared of them at all.
 
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Unfortunately I agree with you that that is a likely scenario. If it comes to fruition, our only chance at reaching the FF is playing small ball. Garrison’s defense and propensity to take plays off are killing us. If he rebounded at an exceptional rate then you could forgive some of it, but he doesn’t. He’s actually a below average rebounder for a guy his size. And as much as I love Moreno’s potential, he gets winded quickly and is slow afoot.

Without JQ, small ball is our only chance to field a contender.
You might be right. Try to become an unconventional team that wears you out with a deep rotation of aggressive guards and wings. Dioubate at center maybe.