I can definitely tell it's tongue and cheek, and I actually enjoy the banter here. I just think that particular line is one of your weakest and is pretty stale. Some of your other trash talk has made me laugh, gotta edit out the losing bits.
Anyone think NU can defeat Illinois?
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Actually, Shannon is allowed to potentially play. The school is choosing not to enforce its own discipline.
The "due process" argument is all based on a formally written process to resolve student discipline issues at U of I. When the Lawrence Kansas DA formally charged Shannon with a felony, the University accepted that as a legitimate investigation (correctly). They did not go thru the written process themselves. Shannon sued (essentially on the same level as "you didn't read me my Miranda rights")
The judge (incorrectly in my view) decided that Shannon had not been afforded his "rights" as a student subject to discipline, because the University didn't conduct a full investigation.
But the University has no obligation whatsoever to put Shannon in games.
Any other decision demeans the university because they are failing to enforce a policy that they would certainly enforce against any other student.
I'm glad you agree with me that the judge did not require they allow Shannon to play and that Shannon seeing the court is completely up to Underwood as the team coach deciding who he wants to play.
The implication being that the University is voluntarily not following their own policy for the purpose of benefiting the basketball team by allowing Shannon to play basketball? After already suspending him earlier? And doing so in the face of strong public backlash? I find that remarkably unlikely, but on this point I doubt we will agree.
Thats what I'm saying. But I don't know which way you see the backlash blowing.
National backlash seems opposite the backlash from the fanbase/alums.
I'm saying the judge gave them an opportunity to drag their feet on their internal investigation, thereby getting the alums off their backs. Problem solved.
You don't need to agree with me again about the same issue. We're both on the same page with Shannon's play time being completely in the hands of Underwood.
I would not be shocked if the undies underperform for the rest of the season. And, looking back, the talking heads point to Shannon being a distraction.
Which, is a good argument to bench him, a lot. Mostly in away games. He played 40 of 45 in Evanston.
Underwood might have nothing to do with the decision. But, in the troll's tongue in cheek's words, he DGAF.
Which, is a good argument to bench him, a lot. Mostly in away games. He played 40 of 45 in Evanston.
Underwood might have nothing to do with the decision. But, in the troll's tongue in cheek's words, he DGAF.
There might also be some locker room drama going on that we don't know about. Several of their starters seemed distracted and playing a bit out of control. Maybe just overconfidence, maybe the crowd got to them (highly unlikely imho), but they swam in and out of focus all game.
Shannon was a captain and went to center court before the game to represent his team. That was surprising to me. I was also surprised that he started the game.
This is the crux of the problem.
If you don't have moral fiber you're basically flipping burgers when it comes to ethical decisions.
"Cover your ***" is unrelated to ethics. That's self-preservation.
"Whats best for me" is obviously hopeless.
The Illini sure took it to a mediocre Hoosier squad today at State Farm. So much talent, so much inconsistency…
Best talent in the conference. Undie has to make sure he doesn’t screw it up.
Indiana shot 0% (0 for 9) from behind the 3-point line, 55% on free throws, and still almost won the game.
Shannon was hideous shooting again. Lots of fouls too. The ball is not lying about Terrance Shannon Jr right now.
