Anyone who hasn't done that has missed out on some great times. Also dgatu01 (that's the name you went with?) is actually Korean so that explains him propping up a bunch of Asian companies over made in the USA apple.
Apple Event - New iPhone7, iWatch thoughts....
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Anyone who hasn't done that has missed out on some great times. Also dgatu01 (that's the name you went with?) is actually Korean so that explains him propping up a bunch of Asian companies over made in the USA apple.
This. I bailed on iPhone when they went to lightning connector instead of mUSB and I admit that I was a little frustrated by Android until they came out with Jellybean. After that the Android world has been all upside over the Apple world. Apple doesn't innovate. They maintain the most walled garden of all of the major players (narrowly beating out Amazon) and they milk their customers and third-party accessory makers.
One of the funniest parts of this is what you describe: "Why would you want a notification center anyway? If Apple doesn't have it in their product it must be totally pointless!"
6 months later:
"OMG!@@!!11, Apple has introduced the iNotificationHubTM It will revolutionize the entire industry!!@212!@"
Sounds like you do too.
Apple got lucky this cycle with the recall from Samsung's Note. That phone blows any phone produced by Apple out of the water.
It's become quite clear that Apple has reached a point where innovation is very incremental to non-existent and the only way to continue to have such large profits is to continue to rape their iPhone users with the need to continue to buy accessories to make up for features they take away. How they can sell those ibug headphones for $169 without uncontrollable laughter is beyond me. Wireless charging? Nope. OLED/HDR display, nope. USB-C...nah, we want to make you buy those $30 and $40 cords that only work with i-devices and continually break down quickly.
Remember how Jobs laughed at Samsung for making those big phones...yeah. Or using a stylus...oh we'll call it pencil. Their over minimalist designs have forced users to spend hundreds of dollars on stupid accessories.
Perfect example of this - users now have to charge their stupid mouse and appletv remote with a lightning cord. Oh forgot to charge your mouse and have a paper due? Prepare to wait while your stupid mouse charges.
I say this as an apple user too. They have become more and more irritating since Jobs needlessly killed himself.
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fingerprint as ID(android did it first),wireless charging, usb-c, iris scanning, flexible displays, HDR displays, etc.
I like Apple products but their greed has overtaken their innovation as of late. Oh and they suck at software and services for the most part. icloud is a freakin joke.
Only one company is getting its products recalled because they explode:
http://gizmodo.com/feds-finally-iss..._source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Rumor is that the FAA might ban them.
http://gizmodo.com/feds-finally-iss..._source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Rumor is that the FAA might ban them.
Ok, which of those are life changing innovations? Apple is going to spend about $50 Billion in R&D over the next few years. I doubt it is to improve the phone.
They will innovate something new that will change the world again and Samsung and everyone else will steal what they come up with and make it their own just like they did with the iPhone.
Steve Jobs was referring to the pressure sensitive stylus like Palm Pilots had.
If you have a paper due and need to charge your mouse with a lightning cable, it takes two minutes to charge for a full day's use.
What are all of these add-one and accessories that people need to buy?
They are inventing new metal alloys, fabrication methods, CAM machines, and designing their own chips at this point. Boy, if they could only innovate more.
I've had the iPhone since the 3G came out in 2008 I think? I'm on my 4th iPhone and have never purchased a single accessory or add on, haven't even bought a case for my last 3.
You say that, but clearly you've purchased tens of thousands of dollars worth of apps, songs, and Disney Vault movies on the Apple iTunes platform and can never leave the ecosystem - just like every Apple customer.
Admit it.
On the headphone jack issue, here's a pretty good quote from Apple:
"We’re trying to make great products for people, and we have at least the courage of our convictions to say we don’t think this is part of what makes a great product, we’re going to leave it out. Some people are going to not like that, they’re going to call us names […] but we’re going to take the heat [and] instead focus our energy on these technologies which we think are in their ascendancy and we think are going to be the right technologies for customers. And you know what? They’re paying us to make those choices. […] If we succeed, they’ll buy them, and if we don’t, they won’t, and it’ll all work itself out."
"We’re trying to make great products for people, and we have at least the courage of our convictions to say we don’t think this is part of what makes a great product, we’re going to leave it out. Some people are going to not like that, they’re going to call us names […] but we’re going to take the heat [and] instead focus our energy on these technologies which we think are in their ascendancy and we think are going to be the right technologies for customers. And you know what? They’re paying us to make those choices. […] If we succeed, they’ll buy them, and if we don’t, they won’t, and it’ll all work itself out."
I don't have a problem with removing the headphone jack. Actually other manufacturers have already being doing this and no one even noticed this. LeEco launched a phone in April and Motorola's Moto Z series also removed that outlet as well. The big difference, and the problem that I have with Apple is that those manufacturers went to a single USB port which is quickly becoming an industry standard. Apple used their proprietary lightning nonsense which means you can't just buy one pair of headphones and use them anywhere. Instead you will need something for Apple products and something for everything else. What makes this even more ridiculous is that if you buy the new MacBook you're going to need a solution for your phone and another solution for your computer because it doesn't support lightning.
Because we own multiple products from various companies I am going to have to purchase a lot of extra stuff, and try to keep track of all the adapters, just to make everything work. Simply moving to USB-C would have been such an easy solution and it would have followed in the path they have already started with the new MacBook.
Because we own multiple products from various companies I am going to have to purchase a lot of extra stuff, and try to keep track of all the adapters, just to make everything work. Simply moving to USB-C would have been such an easy solution and it would have followed in the path they have already started with the new MacBook.
None of the devices that dropped the audio jack intend for you to use wired headphones (USB-C or Lightning). They are built for Bluetooth headphones.
You can just buy one pair of headphones and use them on all of those devices: Bluetooth Headphones.
a glossy finish on an iphone is a life changing innovation? Or a dongle so you can keep using your headphones or square readers or all other type of accessories that use the headphone jack...that type of life changing(oh i guess it is life changing) innovation?
Fan boys crack me up.
Please point to anywhere in my posts I called those life changing.
An iPhone is life changing. An iPad. An iPod. And whatever is next. Please don't come with the weak stuff you did as innovation.
The Apple Watch is stupid, and a sales failure...
Cue the useless fanboy retort...
Cue the useless fanboy retort...
Guys on the national board there is a duke fun who needs help he just set up a tinder account. I figure we could help
@maverick1 @herodotus6 @UKGrad93 @Kooky Kats @Willy4UK @JasonSpear @funKYcat75 @_died @Mashburned
Please spread the good word the man is desperate and needs help ASAP. Why not bring in professionals
@maverick1 @herodotus6 @UKGrad93 @Kooky Kats @Willy4UK @JasonSpear @funKYcat75 @_died @Mashburned
Please spread the good word the man is desperate and needs help ASAP. Why not bring in professionals
By the way, can't wait to see what iOS 10 does to my 5S. Think I'll wait a few days until the nerds have a chance to tell me not to upgrade it.
There is a guy on the main board who signed up for tinder lol. He really needs our help. Forums.rivals.com. With this bunch, the advice could really help him out lol. Check it out. Since the Chinese threads dominate the board, search tinder and it will come up.
Got to give Apple points on this one major innovation over Samsung. Apple products are not literally blowing up on people. I think that is a good innovation, personally.
I may (or may not) switch to iPhone when I need to replace the Nexus 6P. Why? Tired of seeing an app for iPhone and asking the dev "well when is it coming to Android" and the answer being never, coming soon ut never actually happens, or it takes several months if not a year or more.
While I like the phones Google themselves release because it gives near pure Android and quick updates (like as in you can get the new OS within a month), that is literally that is the only line of Android phones that give quick updates AND don't put an ugly skin on Android. The big appeal to Android is the wide variety of phones, well if you want quick updates without an ugly skin you are limited to whatever Google releases.
Also, I'm kind of sick to death of Google being completely incompetent when it comes to messaging. How on ******* earth have they not figured out how to do something anything remotely similar to iMessages? It's like they have to keep releasing a new messaging app every year. Just develop one app and get **** right instead of starting all over with something mediocre on a yearly basis?
While I like the phones Google themselves release because it gives near pure Android and quick updates (like as in you can get the new OS within a month), that is literally that is the only line of Android phones that give quick updates AND don't put an ugly skin on Android. The big appeal to Android is the wide variety of phones, well if you want quick updates without an ugly skin you are limited to whatever Google releases.
Also, I'm kind of sick to death of Google being completely incompetent when it comes to messaging. How on ******* earth have they not figured out how to do something anything remotely similar to iMessages? It's like they have to keep releasing a new messaging app every year. Just develop one app and get **** right instead of starting all over with something mediocre on a yearly basis?
Android's bread is buttered at the bottom of the market on cheap phones in second world countries. The top messaging app on Android is WhatsApp. It has 1000 billion users worldwide.
They have no reason to improvise messaging for your use case, an American who can afford an iPhone.
It's probably true that for most features, some other company has already introduced it. Apple gets a lot of credit for bringing innovations to the masses which likely have been seen elsewhere. And that's been true for decades.
But that's not necessarily a knock on Apple, or something to underestimate. What Apple does is truly make the innovations mainstream because when they introduce a technology, it's not only at a sufficiently large scale to drive adoption, but generally it is well thought out and works well, so widespread adoption (even beyond Apple users) typically follows. (It should be obvious but I'll point it out because not every Android supporter seems to appreciate this, but just because a particular new feature shows up on one or two Android models doesn't mean that EVERY new Android model also will have that feature going forward.)
Beyond that, Apple has been able to maintain profit margins, so they put a lot of effort and engineering into having something that's not going to be a drain on their profits, and sometimes that means the feature is introduced later rather than sooner. BTW, you see that a lot with their use of new materials and manufacturing processes. Apple might do research into these types of technologies for years, but don't rush to introduce something new until they know they can do so at scale, and still retain their margins.
Many of Apple's competitors seem to be in a rush to throw things on the wall to see what sticks, with not a whole lot of thought towards usability, and in some cases how they can make profits on these novel features. It's not a coincidence that Apple dominates smartphone profits.
The other part of this story is that a lot of 'spec. advantages' that Apple competitors cite are actually in part necessary to keep up with or beat Apple, and in some ways can be a liability. For example the following article does a good job discussing how Apple is able to present a formidable challenge for its competitors, even if the specs on the paper don't look particularly daunting.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/12/12886058/iphone-7-specs-competition
Many Android devices need to use chips with more cores and higher clock rates etc., and use more RAM, and draw more power etc. etc. just to keep up with what Apple can do, because Apple puts greater emphasis on tuning and optimizing their hardware and software, which they can do because they design both, including the chips.
Unfortunately I think we're starting to see the consequences of this with the Samsung Note 7 battery fiasco. All these high capacity batteries and fast charging etc. is straining the technology to the limits of safety. That and the fact that companies likely will cut corners because they are working with razor thin profit margins, to go along with a drive to be 'first to market' without a whole lot of safety studies is a recipe for disaster.
The explosions from Samsung devices (not just Note 7's) are scary. Just today I read about a flight on Friday that had a fire from a spare battery. Not sure if that came from a Samsung or not but this should be a wake-up call before people get killed.
Article Referencing Fire on Delta Flight 2557
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Before the recall, Samsung's software fix was going to limit charging to 60%
I think a perfect example of what Jon said are the Airpod's battery life: 5 hours. Samsung's released Bluetooth earbuds in a charger case two weeks ago. They'll last 90 minutes.
They can do that because they are little computers, not just Bluetooth chips. For example, the Airpod's mic doesn't turn on to "listen" until the motion processor detects jaw movement. It's crazy.
I think a perfect example of what Jon said are the Airpod's battery life: 5 hours. Samsung's released Bluetooth earbuds in a charger case two weeks ago. They'll last 90 minutes.
They can do that because they are little computers, not just Bluetooth chips. For example, the Airpod's mic doesn't turn on to "listen" until the motion processor detects jaw movement. It's crazy.
BTW, here's an article that came out today which helps confirm exactly what I'm talking about:
Bloomberg: Rush to Take Advantage of a Dull iPhone Started Samsung's Battery Crisis
“Clearly, they missed something,” said Anthea Lai, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence. “They were rushing to beat Apple and they made a mistake.”
Bloomberg: Rush to Take Advantage of a Dull iPhone Started Samsung's Battery Crisis
“Clearly, they missed something,” said Anthea Lai, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence. “They were rushing to beat Apple and they made a mistake.”