AR15 Age Limit
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There are around 19.8 million AR-15 style rifles in circulation in the US. It is a popular gun. I believe it entered the market in the 1960s. Looking at @Deeeefense ’s chart, it is clear the AR 15 is not the cause of the increase in school mass shootings.
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NY gun law struck down by Court.
Alito’s concurrence and the dissent seem to foreshadow what is to come on these cases. He points out that Buffalo happened and the NY law did not stop the perpetrator. The dissent cited a bunch of statistical info that Alito simply finds irrelevant to the case at hand. He also noted that federal law forbids the possession of a handgun by someone under age 18 and bars the sale of handguns under age of 21. This citation may suggest that the Florida law, as I understand it (sale restriction but not possession restriction) may be constitutional. It does seem apparent that Alito gets the distinction between lawful owners being restricted when criminals will violate the law.
It certainly is. A bipartisan bill with red flag laws and expanded background checks is working it’s way through Congress. It is a very good day even though I know you were talking about the SCOTUS decision.
This is insane. Not that there are so many, but that there are so few actual shootings involving them.
How many people are killed by cars and knives compared to ARs?
I have no problem with law abiding citizens owning, and carrying guns if they deem it appropriate to do so, but anyone that carries a fire arm in public just for the heck of it or "just because I can" is a fool in my estimation. If that gun is accidentally discharged, like some kid comes up from behind you and grabs it and shoots someone or something you will be financially and possibly criminally liable. But people can do what they want.
I'll admit there's a lot of stupid people out there. There were 4 of us on a jeep patrol when we met a large convoy in a small Vietnamese village. We had to pull over and wait for them to pass. All of us had M-16's. I told the guys to hold on to their weapons and keep their eyes open around their sector of the jeep. The dumas in the right rear failed to obey and some little 7 or 8 year old kid grabbed his M-16 and ran around the corner. I was watching my section so I didn't realize it till he had already gone, but the dumas had jumped out of the jeep and was chasing the kid. I didn't want to send a man after him and have 2 individuals out there alone and we all couldn't leave the jeep. About the time the convoy passed, he came back with the M-16. Guess all turned out well, but what may have been because some dumas was negligent!
Alito’s concurrence informs that every year defensive firearm use occurs 2.5 million times and that an Obama commissioned study found that defensive uses of firearms resulted in consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared to victims who used other self-protecting strategies. He then cites examples presented in amicus briefs to the court.
No doubt, some of these people were carrying guns in public. I doubt they feel the fool. While people who did not have guns and suffered worse injuries probably do.
Not sure if same study, but the large percentage of defensive firearm "use" results in no shots fired. Sort of common sense. People tend to stop what they're doing when a gun is pointed at them.
Heck man, if YOU, the rightful and legal owner of said firearm use it in self defense, you are most likely financially f'd...and that could be the least of your worries.
Spend some time reading about defensive gun cases. The deck has been stacked so far against guns, and their owners, it's gonna take a lot more than this latest ruling to get back to even.
In a now closed thread, you said red flag laws, if done properly, are probably the most important immediately available tool. What would you say went wrong in Illinois?
Now law enforcement says the shooter was “known to them”. Yet, here we are…the guy legally bought a firearm in the most restrictive state in the country (53 other shootings in Chicago that weekend, BTW). Red flags on social media…known potential threat. No one said or did anything. Explain how any law would have had an impact in this case. I hate this as much as anyone…as a gun enthusiast, I want gun crimes stopped. The public rhetoric doesn’t help…some people need to step up and have a difficult conversation about people who might pose a threat. SPEAK UP!!
Red flag laws aren't going to do anything if you have family members who protect lunatics. I am perfectly fine with civil and, maybe, criminal liability for family members like this kid's parents or the mom in Sandy Hook, had that negligent idiot not been murdered in her sleep.
including police or fed agencies who refuse to charge or prosecute obviously crazy suspects. The evidence in the Texas school shooting shows more negligence in the poilce force than anything else yet we argue "new laws".
I missed the person who commented that (summarizing) "idiots that carry guns in public just because they can". Whats the point of having concealed carry if you arent going to have it on you. Statistically, it has been proven, that if you come across a situation that requires a gun to defend your person, that having the gun at home and only the license on you, has proven not to be effective in deterring the bad guys. If you didnt mean the comment toward conceal carry permits, then I apologize because I agree people that dont have the proper training in carrying and discharging firearms have no business toting guns around.
Again, our government is horrible at most everything it touches...at best. At worst, they're a criminal organization who abuses their power for gain.
Lmao…and somehow that didn’t prevent him from “legally” buying a weapon. Complete clown world. We The Government will confiscate your knives because you are dangerous, but We The Government will also clear you via federal background check to legally purchase firearms.
All you stupid sob’s constantly crying and hollering for The Government to make more laws might want to dry your sniffles and ask why our government allows these monsters to commit acts of terrorism.
Well, to be fair, the constitution doesn’t promise the right to keep and bear knives
Yes it does. A knife is an "Arm".Well, to be fair, the constitution doesn’t promise the right to keep and bear knives