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KingOfBBN

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Throughout my days working in the corporate office and in management, I have came across some real pieces of ****.

Any of you have any horror stories of employees or people you've had to fire?
 

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I used to be the manager at the Medieval Times in Bradenton, FL. Our GM, the big boss, had a rule about everything being authentic at all times. We had to speak with a British lilt even in the break room. I hired a guy named Scotty who was a great interview, had good references and was a hell of an actor. Now, we were needing a guy to play an Irishman, and this kid was the one. BUT, the GM said a 'Scotty' couldn't play an Irishman and told me to let him go. So I tell Scotty, I tells him that he was fired. The GM overhears me and tells me I am let go, too, because I didn't do it properly and tell him he was "sacked". Just goes to show you that it's tough being a manager all around. I mean good grief.

Geez.

The nerve of some people.

Goodness gracious ...
 
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I only employ/manage some student employees. I'm pretty easy to work for. Show up and do your work at a competent level and I'm good with you. Helps that I am paying kids to work sporting events. Only have had to fire one kid during the school year, a few others I just didn't bring back the following year.
 

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I had to fire a salesman in Georgia/South Carolina in 2003. He took the corporate credit card and was spending big bucks in a strip club in Columbia, SC
I inherited him from the retired sales manager who had hired him. Corporate accounting had set up the cards with no limits. Cost the company 80 grand.
 

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I had to fire a salesman in Georgia/South Carolina in 2003. He took the corporate credit card and was spending big bucks in a strip club in Columbia, SC
I inherited him from the retired sales manager who had hired him. Corporate accounting had set up the cards with no limits. Cost the company 80 grand.

How exactly did this not get noticed when the expense reports came back? How long had this been going on?
 
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I had to fire a salesman in Georgia/South Carolina in 2003. He took the corporate credit card and was spending big bucks in a strip club in Columbia, SC
I inherited him from the retired sales manager who had hired him. Corporate accounting had set up the cards with no limits. Cost the company 80 grand.
Dude ahould have got promoted for being able to spend 80 grand in a Cola Town strip club.
 

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How exactly did this not get noticed when the expense reports came back? How long had this been going on?
Expense reports went to corporate and were approved there. I got a monthly summary report that lumped all salesmen into one sum and noticed travel expenses were about 15k out of line. I brought this up to my boss, VP of sales. He said to ask accounting. I did and rthey said they were too busy closing the year and dealing with the yearly audit. AMEX called corporate and alerted them the next month. I would have seen ithe total magnitude of it the next month. They immediately put limits on the cards and went to an electronic approval by the direct manager for visibility.
 

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Was this the guy?

 

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Expense reports went to corporate and were approved there. I got a monthly summary report that lumped all salesmen into one sum and noticed travel expenses were about 15k out of line. I brought this up to my boss, VP of sales. He said to ask accounting. I did and rthey said they were too busy closing the year and dealing with the yearly audit. AMEX called corporate and alerted them the next month. I would have seen ithe total magnitude of it the next month. They immediately put limits on the cards and went to an electronic approval by the direct manager for visibility.

What did that guy say when you fired him?
 

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What did that guy say when you fired him?
I had put in a call for him and packed a bag to head to Georgia. When he called I asked him if he knew anything about unusual and large charges on his card. He admitted he did. I told him the card had been deactivated and he was to go home and park the company car. Told him I was coming down and would see him the next day. We met in the lobby of a Holiday Inn. At that time I did not have a Concealed Carry permit so I wanted a public place. When I asked him why he said he got in over his head with a stripper and lost it. We never found out if he had a scam going with the girl, splitting the money, knowing he would be fired.
 
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I had put in a call for him and packed a bag to head to Georgia. When he called I asked him if he knew anything about unusual and large charges on his card. He admitted he did. I told him the card had been deactivated and he was to go home and park the company car. Told him I was coming down and would see him the next day. We met in the lobby of a Holiday Inn. At that time I did not have a Concealed Carry permit so I wanted a public place. When I asked him why he said he got in over his head with a stripper and lost it. We never found out if he had a scam going with the girl, splitting the money, knowing he would be fired.
Was he a UL Card grad? [winking]
 

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Nope, I'm an underling, but recalling my collegiate retail days I can easily say I worked FOR some real pieces of ****.

You know the type, they're only paid slightly better than the employees but think they're the GD CEO of the company, take working at the grocery store entirely too seriously as in everything is life or death, etc.

On the flipside, I was the unofficial "night supervisor" of the meat department for a year and had some hilariously terrible co-workers. My favorite was the guy who was fired because he came to work out of his mind on Xanax, went to his car on his break to smoke a bowl, and passed out with the half-smoked bowl in his lap. Management found him 2 hours after his break was supposed to be over. Dude's lucky he did that in the fall instead of summer.
 

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I've been in a management position since graduating college. Not always a fan of firing people, sometimes I feel flat out awful about it. But every once in a while it's quite enjoyable. Canned a dude not even a year ago that had stolen some coin machine keys to take quarters so he could feed a heroin addiction.

One of my best current employees was fired from his previous job for sexing a ho on his 10 minute break in the employee bathroom at the restaurant he was working for.
 

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i'm not advanced enough to manage many people, but haven't been that advanced to get fired either. people who get fired (generally) fall into two categories: a) they are over-qualified or over-ambitious and are a threat to their managers or b) are under-performing or are embezzling **** (oh boy do i have some horror stories about this type of thing...) I think the trick is to be perfectly content doing just enough work not to get fired. i'll let office space do the honors:
 
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I was told by the team owner to fire the equipment manager.

I was told I had to do it right then and there.

The guys family, including his two kids, was visiting and was in the locker room when I had to tell him.

It was not pretty, and I felt like a giant douche.
 

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When I worked at the University of Pennsylvania as the Associate Director of Athletic Facilities, I hired a new grad from Florida State, which has a great Sport Management program, and he came highly recommended. He had a great interview and I thought I had my guy. When he started working, the dude didn't talk, I mean literally said as few words as possible to just get through the day. It was the strangest thing. Before his 3 month probationary period was over, I decided to fire him. He and I sit down (I had my boss in there with me as he didn't seem all there), and told him we were letting him go. He looked at us, started making fists with his hands and walked out. Never saw him again.
 

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When I worked at the University of Pennsylvania as the Associate Director of Athletic Facilities, I hired a new grad from Florida State, which has a great Sport Management program, and he came highly recommended. He had a great interview and I thought I had my guy. When he started working, the dude didn't talk, I mean literally said as few words as possible to just get through the day. It was the strangest thing. Before his 3 month probationary period was over, I decided to fire him. He and I sit down (I had my boss in there with me as he didn't seem all there), and told him we were letting him go. He looked at us, started making fists with his hands and walked out. Never saw him again.

Was he The Hulk? Sounds like a total weirdo.
 

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No problem whatsoever to fire someone who deserves it.

The worst is when you have to let people go due to corporate cutbacks...I once spent two days straight doing nothing but firing people that didn't deserve it and it was absolutely horrible. I did it personally and I did it face to face. Many of them I was able to help in job placement or writing letters of recommendation or making phone calls for them.

Good people that work hard are going to end up landing on their feet eventually.
 

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Once canned a chick for being late or calling in a total of ~35 times in about 4 months. I don't understand how you couldn't get your **** together after the progressive discipline for that.

She filed for unemployment...didn't get it. Stunner.
 
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No problem whatsoever to fire someone who deserves it.

The worst is when you have to let people go due to corporate cutbacks...I once spent two days straight doing nothing but firing people that didn't deserve it and it was absolutely horrible. I did it personally and I did it face to face. Many of them I was able to help in job placement or writing letters of recommendation or making phone calls for them.

Good people that work hard are going to end up landing on their feet eventually.
I have had to do that a few times also. MeN who had worked for me for years. It bothers me to this day
 
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Tried and true methods for getting someone to willingly bounce:

1. The ridiculous schedule: "yeah, I'm gonna need you from 10-1:30 and then again from 4-5:15 for the foreseeable future.
Estimated bounce time: 1-2 weeks.

2. The ****** task overload: Every job has ****** parts, and they usually get evenly distributed between all the employees. Not anymore.
Estimated bounce time: 3 days

3. Give their most hated rival a new title that would indicate the rival is now their supervisor.
Estimate bounce time: 8 minutes
 

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Tried and true methods for getting someone to willingly bounce:

1. The ridiculous schedule: "yeah, I'm gonna need you from 10-1:30 and then again from 4-5:15 for the foreseeable future.
Estimated bounce time: 1-2 weeks.

2. The ****** task overload: Every job has ****** parts, and they usually get evenly distributed between all the employees. Not anymore.
Estimated bounce time: 3 days

3. Give their most hated rival a new title that would indicate the rival is now their supervisor.
Estimate bounce time: 8 minutes
[laughing]
 

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I've only enjoyed firing someone once or twice. One of my old jobs a few years ago, I had just got the position of District Manager and I had to fire this woman for time clock fraud after her employees ratted her out.

I had only met her once and she was just an ugly fat woman. Her name was Dee but in the email her employees sent, they called her Derek. I thought that was rather petty and childish. I started talking to HR and looked at the file and sure enough it was Derek. It was a tranny.

You can imagine the nightmare me and HR had to go through in order to fire this freak. She was getting her nails done on the clock and one day I tried to get there two days before we were going to fire it. I get there at 5:45 and it's not there. I look at the time clock and it says they left at 6...15 minutes into the furniture.

Figured out the time clock fraud had been going on a long time and the previous DM was just too damn lazy.

Had to have security meet me there when we fired it and that loon freaked out.

Great first week in the new role. Glad I don't work there anymore.
 
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Fired a guy just a couple weeks ago. He was asking people if the had some pain pills for sale. Pretty easy decision.

Funniest was about 7 years ago, another mgr slightly above me hired a person. One hour into his first day, I was told to fire him. I asked my coworker why ? What did he do ? He told me, dude look at him, he is a slouch, weighs about 400 lbs and dressed like a bum. I go and sit the guy down, tell him "we needed to part ways." He asked me what did I do wrong ? I felt like a piece of ****, told my coworker, I'm not doing your dirty work again, you make a bad hire, YOU deal with it. He was above me but we was best friends, I added a lot more curse words to him after I had to fire the poor guy. It was just kind of funny, dude was barely even clocked in , he came out of the morning meeting, never made it to his desk. In my friends defense, he was not a person who needed to be working directly with the public, but I told him, you should have known that before you hired him.
 

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Yes.

Management has made me a very cynical person. I tend to now be a "prove it" before I "believe it" person. Any excuse will be met with extreme skepticism.

I terminate a lot less people now than when I was a supervisor. Now, I let my supervisors handle those issues, but with my blessing.

Most of the sups. I've lost have been to them seeing the writing on the wall. Multiple PIP's and low PAR scores generally lead to them finding other opportunities. However, some take it to the end and I have no choice but to let them go.

Agree with 80. Some firings suck. Others have made my entire week better.
 

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A few tough decisions I've made as a boss.

-Fired a guy who discriminated against gays at the work place

-Fired a woman who breast fed her baby at work

-Fired a white guy because he was using racially sensitive words

-Fired a man who was sexually assaulting a woman with words when he was talking about being pro-life.

Not sure if joking (probably are) but I imagine there might be a huge lawsuit for firing a woman for breastfeeding depending on the state, I suppose.

Just read the last one again. Yeah, you're joking.
 
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I will gladly protest myself with phrases of "Shame this man!"

But seriously, as an employer, the headaches of having to fire someone are unreal. They get even worse if you're black or Latino. The paperwork then becomes a long drawn out process. However, if you want to fire a white heterosexual person, you probably don't even need to talk to HR. Just send them a text and let them know you did it. [laughing]
 
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I've been in a management position since graduating college. Not always a fan of firing people, sometimes I feel flat out awful about it. But every once in a while it's quite enjoyable. Canned a dude not even a year ago that had stolen some coin machine keys to take quarters so he could feed a heroin addiction.

One of my best current employees was fired from his previous job for sexing a ho on his 10 minute break in the employee bathroom at the restaurant he was working for.
Quarters for Heroin? Was he even getting real heroin?
 
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When I worked at the University of Pennsylvania as the Associate Director of Athletic Facilities, I hired a new grad from Florida State, which has a great Sport Management program, and he came highly recommended. He had a great interview and I thought I had my guy. When he started working, the dude didn't talk, I mean literally said as few words as possible to just get through the day. It was the strangest thing. Before his 3 month probationary period was over, I decided to fire him. He and I sit down (I had my boss in there with me as he didn't seem all there), and told him we were letting him go. He looked at us, started making fists with his hands and walked out. Never saw him again.
You fired a guy because he didn't talk much?
 
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A few tough decisions I've made as a boss.

-Fired a guy who discriminated against gays at the work place

-Fired a woman who breast fed her baby at work

-Fired a white guy because he was using racially sensitive words

-Fired a man who was sexually assaulting a woman with words when he was talking about being pro-life.
Fired someone for racially sensitive words? Do you mean insensitive?
 
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I will gladly protest myself with phrases of "Shame this man!"

But seriously, as an employer, the headaches of having to fire someone are unreal. They get even worse if you're black or Latino. The paperwork then becomes a long drawn out process. However, if you want to fire a white heterosexual person, you probably don't even need to talk to HR. Just send them a text and let them know you did it. [laughing]
That's what is great about Virginia. Don't even have to have a reason to fire someone unless they sue, and no student employee is going to sue over a minimum wage job. I fired a student employee one time just because he turned out to be a Louisville fan, had actually forgotten about that one until now. **** that ****. Of course I had an excuse too if it ever became an issue as he showed up to work smelling like alcohol. But the real reason was because he was a Louisville fan.

Had to fire a black student one time (only the second firing I can remember). Made sure I did it with my office door open when others were around, 1) because he was black and I wanted witnesses since I'm white and 2) he was slightly crazy. Let my immediate boss and his boss know before hand I was doing it and why. I wasn't about to deal to leave anything to chance.
 
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