I had to fire a salesman in Georgia/South Carolina in 2003. He took the corporate credit card and was spending big bucks in a strip club in Columbia, SC
I inherited him from the retired sales manager who had hired him. Corporate accounting had set up the cards with no limits. Cost the company 80 grand.
Dude ahould have got promoted for being able to spend 80 grand in a Cola Town strip club.I had to fire a salesman in Georgia/South Carolina in 2003. He took the corporate credit card and was spending big bucks in a strip club in Columbia, SC
I inherited him from the retired sales manager who had hired him. Corporate accounting had set up the cards with no limits. Cost the company 80 grand.
3 hoursHow exactly did this not get noticed when the expense reports came back? How long had this been going on?
Expense reports went to corporate and were approved there. I got a monthly summary report that lumped all salesmen into one sum and noticed travel expenses were about 15k out of line. I brought this up to my boss, VP of sales. He said to ask accounting. I did and rthey said they were too busy closing the year and dealing with the yearly audit. AMEX called corporate and alerted them the next month. I would have seen ithe total magnitude of it the next month. They immediately put limits on the cards and went to an electronic approval by the direct manager for visibility.How exactly did this not get noticed when the expense reports came back? How long had this been going on?
Expense reports went to corporate and were approved there. I got a monthly summary report that lumped all salesmen into one sum and noticed travel expenses were about 15k out of line. I brought this up to my boss, VP of sales. He said to ask accounting. I did and rthey said they were too busy closing the year and dealing with the yearly audit. AMEX called corporate and alerted them the next month. I would have seen ithe total magnitude of it the next month. They immediately put limits on the cards and went to an electronic approval by the direct manager for visibility.
I had put in a call for him and packed a bag to head to Georgia. When he called I asked him if he knew anything about unusual and large charges on his card. He admitted he did. I told him the card had been deactivated and he was to go home and park the company car. Told him I was coming down and would see him the next day. We met in the lobby of a Holiday Inn. At that time I did not have a Concealed Carry permit so I wanted a public place. When I asked him why he said he got in over his head with a stripper and lost it. We never found out if he had a scam going with the girl, splitting the money, knowing he would be fired.What did that guy say when you fired him?
Was he a UL Card grad? [winking]I had put in a call for him and packed a bag to head to Georgia. When he called I asked him if he knew anything about unusual and large charges on his card. He admitted he did. I told him the card had been deactivated and he was to go home and park the company car. Told him I was coming down and would see him the next day. We met in the lobby of a Holiday Inn. At that time I did not have a Concealed Carry permit so I wanted a public place. When I asked him why he said he got in over his head with a stripper and lost it. We never found out if he had a scam going with the girl, splitting the money, knowing he would be fired.
Next best thing.......Duke fanWas he a UL Card grad? [winking]
When I worked at the University of Pennsylvania as the Associate Director of Athletic Facilities, I hired a new grad from Florida State, which has a great Sport Management program, and he came highly recommended. He had a great interview and I thought I had my guy. When he started working, the dude didn't talk, I mean literally said as few words as possible to just get through the day. It was the strangest thing. Before his 3 month probationary period was over, I decided to fire him. He and I sit down (I had my boss in there with me as he didn't seem all there), and told him we were letting him go. He looked at us, started making fists with his hands and walked out. Never saw him again.
He was one of those guys that if you saw him on the news for killing a group of people, it wouldn't surprise you.Was he The Hulk? Sounds like a total weirdo.
I have had to do that a few times also. MeN who had worked for me for years. It bothers me to this dayNo problem whatsoever to fire someone who deserves it.
The worst is when you have to let people go due to corporate cutbacks...I once spent two days straight doing nothing but firing people that didn't deserve it and it was absolutely horrible. I did it personally and I did it face to face. Many of them I was able to help in job placement or writing letters of recommendation or making phone calls for them.
Good people that work hard are going to end up landing on their feet eventually.
[laughing]Tried and true methods for getting someone to willingly bounce:
1. The ridiculous schedule: "yeah, I'm gonna need you from 10-1:30 and then again from 4-5:15 for the foreseeable future.
Estimated bounce time: 1-2 weeks.
2. The ****** task overload: Every job has ****** parts, and they usually get evenly distributed between all the employees. Not anymore.
Estimated bounce time: 3 days
3. Give their most hated rival a new title that would indicate the rival is now their supervisor.
Estimate bounce time: 8 minutes
A few tough decisions I've made as a boss.
-Fired a guy who discriminated against gays at the work place
-Fired a woman who breast fed her baby at work
-Fired a white guy because he was using racially sensitive words
-Fired a man who was sexually assaulting a woman with words when he was talking about being pro-life.
Not sure if joking (probably are) but I imagine there might be a huge lawsuit for firing a woman for breastfeeding depending on the state, I suppose.
Just read the last one again. Yeah, you're joking.
One of my best current employees was fired from his previous job for sexing a ho on his 10 minute break in the employee bathroom at the restaurant he was working for.
Quarters for Heroin? Was he even getting real heroin?I've been in a management position since graduating college. Not always a fan of firing people, sometimes I feel flat out awful about it. But every once in a while it's quite enjoyable. Canned a dude not even a year ago that had stolen some coin machine keys to take quarters so he could feed a heroin addiction.
One of my best current employees was fired from his previous job for sexing a ho on his 10 minute break in the employee bathroom at the restaurant he was working for.
You fired a guy because he didn't talk much?When I worked at the University of Pennsylvania as the Associate Director of Athletic Facilities, I hired a new grad from Florida State, which has a great Sport Management program, and he came highly recommended. He had a great interview and I thought I had my guy. When he started working, the dude didn't talk, I mean literally said as few words as possible to just get through the day. It was the strangest thing. Before his 3 month probationary period was over, I decided to fire him. He and I sit down (I had my boss in there with me as he didn't seem all there), and told him we were letting him go. He looked at us, started making fists with his hands and walked out. Never saw him again.
Fired someone for racially sensitive words? Do you mean insensitive?A few tough decisions I've made as a boss.
-Fired a guy who discriminated against gays at the work place
-Fired a woman who breast fed her baby at work
-Fired a white guy because he was using racially sensitive words
-Fired a man who was sexually assaulting a woman with words when he was talking about being pro-life.
That's what is great about Virginia. Don't even have to have a reason to fire someone unless they sue, and no student employee is going to sue over a minimum wage job. I fired a student employee one time just because he turned out to be a Louisville fan, had actually forgotten about that one until now. **** that ****. Of course I had an excuse too if it ever became an issue as he showed up to work smelling like alcohol. But the real reason was because he was a Louisville fan.I will gladly protest myself with phrases of "Shame this man!"
But seriously, as an employer, the headaches of having to fire someone are unreal. They get even worse if you're black or Latino. The paperwork then becomes a long drawn out process. However, if you want to fire a white heterosexual person, you probably don't even need to talk to HR. Just send them a text and let them know you did it. [laughing]