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Are Trump's rallies more "protest" than "rally"?

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Do we, as taxpayers, have an obligation to fund a Trump protest/rally?
The fact is, there's a lot being protested during these "Trump rallies"... the media, the judicial system (Federal courts), American Democrats, immigration, Obamacare, NATO, the entire political system in the U.S. ("the swamp"). This list is just off the top of my head... I'm pretty sure I left out quite a few. Is it wrong to label these as "rallies" instead of what they overwhelmingly appear to be... protests? I know as supporters we're not to question the administrations actions, but when I see my tax dollars going for rally/protests - what appear to be an "ego booster for Trump - it leaves a bad taste, especially while seeing bridges and roads that I work around, crumbling right in front of my eyes.

 
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WVUCOOPER said:
I doubt the campaign paid for his security, travel, etc. But his middle name is not Hussein, so he can wast taxpayer's money.
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I've never complained about any President traveling for whatever reason. Traveling is a part of the job, vacations are no big deal and a necessity, and the costs are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. But I find it hilarious that the Fox News addicted wingnuts harped about Obama traveling for 8 years. They particularly complained about the number of vacations that he took. And it was well-documented that Reagan and W took more than BO did. Now, a month in, Trump has already flown to FL three times for weekend get-aways. Crickets. Hypocrites.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
I doubt the campaign paid for his security, travel, etc. But his middle name is not Hussein, so he can wast taxpayer's money.
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You doubt, but you don't know. But you are an American so you can waste your words anyway you want. 'Campaign funded' was stated on news outlets, but feel free to Google your brains out and account for every penny. Melania used Trump stationary to plagiarize the Lords Prayer in an obvious abuse of the emoluments clause. She should have just said "Allahu Akbar" and all would be good.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
I've never complained about any President traveling for whatever reason. Traveling is a part of the job, vacations are no big deal and a necessity, and the costs are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. But I find it hilarious that the Fox News addicted wingnuts harped about Obama traveling for 8 years. They particularly complained about the number of vacations that he took. And it was well-documented that Reagan and W took more than BO did. Now, a month in, Trump has already flown to FL three times for weekend get-aways. Crickets. Hypocrites.
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HAHA! "Weekend get-aways" with World Leaders. The guy doesn't know the meaning of a day off.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
you obviously can't read
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If you don't care about Trump's rallies and what they cost, then it's cool you're being consistent at least. But your post seemed to suggest that the Right is all for Trump's wasteful spending, while they were all against Obama's.

Neither is true, but why point out one without mentioning the other?
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
I doubt the campaign paid for his security, travel, etc. But his middle name is not Hussein, so he can wast taxpayer's money.
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There is a standard fee that is paid per hour or whatever when the president is campaigning. Same fee that the DNC paid when Obama campaigned for HIlldawg.
 
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dave said:
There is a standard fee that is paid per hour or whatever when the president is campaigning. Same fee that the DNC paid when Obama campaigned for HIlldawg.
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I've never had a problem with it, just like pointing out all the hypocrites. Just like anytime a Dem/lib/libtard/leftist/whateverwordisinvougue is suddenly worried about the President playing golf.
 
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I have a solution. End all taxpayer funding of campaign related trips. Give the money back to taxpayers, let the politicos or their parties pay for their own campaign stops.

Taxpayers fund Official business only.
 
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atlkvb said:
I have a solution. End all taxpayer funding of campaign related trips. Give the money back to taxpayers, let the politicos or their parties pay for their own campaign stops.

Taxpayers fund Official business only.
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How very Libertarian of you.
 
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PriddyBoy said:
HAHA! "Weekend get-aways" with World Leaders. The guy doesn't know the meaning of a day off.
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May be the solution to the problem. Calculate his OT pay and deduct his personal travel from it. Going in that direction, Obama would owe us some more OT, but who in hell would demand more of what he gave? Naw, let's just write this one off.
 
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It was technically a "campaign rally". The campaign paid for the facility and the security. The taxpayers pay for Secret Service detail, regardless of the function. It was technically a campaign rally so legally they can exclude whomever they want from participating. The campaign security can turn anyone away that they want. If it were a function of the office of the POTUS, no one can be turned away (unless they are deemed a security risk by the SS).
 
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countryroads89 said:
It was technically a "campaign rally". The campaign paid for the facility and the security. The taxpayers pay for Secret Service detail, regardless of the function. It was technically a campaign rally so legally they can exclude whomever they want from participating. The campaign security can turn anyone away that they want. If it were a function of the office of the POTUS, no one can be turned away (unless they are deemed a security risk by the SS).
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Hey countryroads89 for once is 100% correct!

Maybe there is hope?
 
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countryroads89 said:
It was technically a "campaign rally". The campaign paid for the facility and the security. The taxpayers pay for Secret Service detail, regardless of the function. It was technically a campaign rally so legally they can exclude whomever they want from participating. The campaign security can turn anyone away that they want. If it were a function of the office of the POTUS, no one can be turned away (unless they are deemed a security risk by the SS).
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Technically? Considering the bill in Tenn that provides civil immunity for running over a protester, I'm curious to know how a "protester" is actually identified. Is a person attending a Trump rally/protest considered a protester?
 
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Best Virginia said:
Technically? Considering the bill in Tenn that provides civil immunity for running over a protester, I'm curious to know how a "protester" is actually identified. Is a person attending a Trump rally/protest considered a protester?
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Did that bill pass? Do you think any of the similar bills in other states will pass?
 
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countryroads89 said:
Did that bill pass? Do you think any of the similar bills in other states will pass?
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Message to country...(if you're still reading my posts)

It's no secret you and I disagree over issues fundamentally, that's cool.

However I just want to compliment you for cleaning up your language. I still disagree with much of what you post, but I have noticed you have cut down on or in some cases cut out all of the needless name calling and just outright bitter personal insults of those you disagree with..

I'm much more willing to at least consider your arguments when you make them respectfully, minus all of the personal bilge. I just wanted you to know I notice it, and I think you should be complimented for at least trying to be more civil even if you disagree.

Thank You.
 
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