Are we losing the portal contest?
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Are you really a Heisman? Or a wannabe? As Raiola goes to Oregon. WTF.Are you really a Dr? Do you know Dr. Vinnie Boombah?
Given that recruiting, star ratings and now the portal are discusses ad nauseam on this board - I think this is a totally fair game topic for discussion. (As an aside - some of the unprovoked snarkiness and hostility that's commonplace on many threads is really disappointing). It's been proven particularly this year that not infrequently lower rated recruits coming out of high school can actually end up being better football players, or always were. Assessing actual production vs just potential gets easier when players have a body of work at the collegiate level, but there aren't many prefect apples to apples comparisons. How do you compare a player who sat behind a superstar at OSU or Bama vs someone who put up big numbers in G5 or FCS. We're not even allowed to compare performance in the Big12 to the B1G. We have to pin our hopes on Campbell being Cignetti-like in his ability to accurately assess players' productivity as opposed to potential, ratings, etc. So almost by definition, we won't know if we "won" or "lost" the portal game until we see the production or (hopefully not lack thereof) on the field.
Your star ranking from HS is based off of camps/showcases, HS film and swayed by certain school offers. Some freak athletes at their position who dominate lesser competition and dont attend 1 on 1 showcases can be ranked much higher than they truly are.
Other kids who dont attend any of the showcases and dont have legit athletic times/data are not ranked as high though they may be more instinctive and intelligent.
Other kids who dont attend any of the showcases and dont have legit athletic times/data are not ranked as high though they may be more instinctive and intelligent.
In that case I'm confused why Oregon & OSU are winning 11+ games and making the playoffs instead of Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
Easy answer - Oregon & OSU have $$$$$$$ to pay players they rate highly in the PORTAL no matter what their star rating(s) were previously. NW, Wisconsin and Iowa not so much. There is a reason Kraft made sure to announce $30 million pool at the introductory press conference.
Not trolling, just looking fo other opinions. I’m not naive, I just don’t live in this portal... Mr. Heisman.
Technically, only social media I do.
I’ve said this on portal thread and got bashed.
Yes I’m happy with some of the Iowa State kids they brought in HOWEVER rest of these kids I’m assuming have to be depth pieces. Sorry I’m not impressed with these lowly rated kids that didn’t do much at Syracuse, WVU, Grambling etc. I mean seriously we were getting an extra 5 million to spend this year with our biggest NIL players leaving to the draft and graduating where in the hell is all this money going?
I like how everybody thinks Campbell is just going to be the next Cignetti and these kids from Syracuse and Grambling are just diamonds in the rough that nobody knows about and it’s excellent money ball strategy.
I’m also in the minority that thinks Penn State can win the BIG next year with Penn States existing kids and Iowa State players. However I’m more worried about the recruiting and portal players down the road.
Yes I’m happy with some of the Iowa State kids they brought in HOWEVER rest of these kids I’m assuming have to be depth pieces. Sorry I’m not impressed with these lowly rated kids that didn’t do much at Syracuse, WVU, Grambling etc. I mean seriously we were getting an extra 5 million to spend this year with our biggest NIL players leaving to the draft and graduating where in the hell is all this money going?
I like how everybody thinks Campbell is just going to be the next Cignetti and these kids from Syracuse and Grambling are just diamonds in the rough that nobody knows about and it’s excellent money ball strategy.
I’m also in the minority that thinks Penn State can win the BIG next year with Penn States existing kids and Iowa State players. However I’m more worried about the recruiting and portal players down the road.
Thanks for clarifying. Hey, I'm not expecting a 10 win or more season in 2026. Right now, I'd consider a 9 win season to be a great accomplishment. With that said, I think that Campbell has done an admirable job of putting together a roster in very short order that can be competitive in 2026 and stabilizing the program, after which he really can start to stock this roster with more highly rated players.
One team obviously had a lot more talent than the other. What percentage of big games did they each win?
Outside of Coleman and Gilliam, (maybe Hayes, I like his potential) none of these guys leaving move the needle at all for me. Most of these guys came to PSU with these lofty rankings and never amounted to anything but depth pieces. Reynolds? Couldn't catch a cold when it mattered. Olesh? Is so skinny he's 2 years from seeing the field, let alone making a million dollars in NIL.
And we're bringing in pretty known commodities? I mean we have a top 5 CB, QB, TE, and S? Even some of the younger guys from ISU, don't you trust Campbell in knowing that these guys have potential. And the younger guys out of the portal like the kids from COL, BC, WVU, etc. all saw major reps as true freshman. Let them sizzle of bit in our program for a few years. This is what we hired a front office for.
Rinse off the whole program, we needed change.
And we're bringing in pretty known commodities? I mean we have a top 5 CB, QB, TE, and S? Even some of the younger guys from ISU, don't you trust Campbell in knowing that these guys have potential. And the younger guys out of the portal like the kids from COL, BC, WVU, etc. all saw major reps as true freshman. Let them sizzle of bit in our program for a few years. This is what we hired a front office for.
Rinse off the whole program, we needed change.
Lousy recruiting is not a very good excuse.
Ps. Ironic that the same people who point out Indiana wins with 3 stars then make excuses for campbell having less talent.
Down the road? It's my understanding that this is supposed to be the only year of patching this thing up with Wisconsin style of players, which is OK for now, but next year it's back to being up in at least the Top 15 in recruiting, stars, etc.
Short term pain for long term gain is what I thought this was supposed to be, with this year being Campbell's chance to prove he can do fairly well even with less so after that, more will want to come to Penn State and outdo the last guy who always got more, but got much less out of it.
Ok why are we paying top Iowa State guys if they only have one year of eligibility left if this is a rebuild year? I’d rather give the money elsewhere
Because it gives you immediate dividends next season and comes off the books? Do you just want to lose every game next year? The schedule is soft as charmin, so let's get some vets and see if we can win some games.
Some of you guys don't understand that college football is now being looked at like the NFL. Penn State has a front office now. We have a GM. But we also have finite funds. I mean look at Oregon and Bama - they just got absolutely smoked by a team with half the funds and a tenth of the "stars." Do you agree with sending a million dollars to Andrew Olesh just for him to sit on the bench? Just for a recruiting bump?
These guys are being scouted by professionals, not the dummies on here that don't know ball. We're a few weeks into this process and some of you are already hitting the panic button. Chill out and let these guys cook.
Who should he be bringing in instead? I was under the impression that nothing much is available except Iowa State players. Somehow they brought in a UCLA and OSU player. Are there others they should be buying?
I honestly don't know since it's not my actual job to keep up on the whole free agent market. I'm just under the assumption that this year he was handcuffed by being hired on too late.
I hope he plans to recruit up to the level Franklin was. That could be the only drawback if year in and year out he can't do that then he will end up failing, but somehow I don't think he's stupid enough to think he can win here with Iowa State players forever.
Not sure if that is a serious question, but assuming it is:
There are, what, 3,000-4,000 players in the portal..... which opened on January 5th (or sometime around there). Probably an average of 20 players or more entering the portal from nearly each and every program.
Eligibility only lasts one year now with the portal. Saying someone has 2 or 3 years left is meaningless when they can jump ship every year
Are there some of these we can really identify and say that Campbell should have brought this one in instead of the Iowa State player? Do they have to go cheap this year since they have to buy so many?
What exactly is the effect of his being hired on so late? I thought that was the big issue here, but I will admit the rules of all this have changed so much that I am just sitting back rooting for laundry at this point.
Those that advertise themselves as “Doctor” in their handle are usually the furthest from being one.Are you really a Dr? Do you know Dr. Vinnie Boombah?
IIRC , we have 6 of the top 100 players from the portal signed . 2 of the QBs. So not everyone is filler .
Like the stars assigned to Paul Pozlusny?Apologies as I see now this has been posted.
Got a big boy Aussie punter . He’s only #230 at 6’5” , will need to put on some weight .We’d better have a good punter and a better defense.
He’s so old he’s gonna want a Corvette and jorts for NIL.
Pencil Riker in at center. Neither Rulli or Cousins will be able to touch him
CMC has spent his whole career evaluating and signing raw jems. The Plan will unfold, trust The Process!
