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TarHeelEer

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MichiganHerd said:
Keep in mind, Nixon was impeached. He never even had a Senate trial, because he resigned prior to one taking place.
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Inaccurate. Judiciary sent the vote to the floor, but the House didn't vote on it. Didn't vote on it, certainly couldn't impeach him by sending it to the Senate.
 
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countryroads89_rivals

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TarHeelEer said:
Inaccurate. Judiciary sent the vote to the floor, but the House didn't vote on it. Didn't vote on it, certainly couldn't impeach him by sending it to the Senate.
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Don't have to send to the Senate to impeach. "House has sole power to impeach." I know you guys have trouble with the Constitution.
 
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30CAT

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countryroads89 said:
Don't have to send to the Senate to impeach. "House has sole power to impeach." I know you guys have trouble with the Constitution.
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Regardless, the Senate has power to acquit, which means you're all giddy for nothing. [thumbsup]
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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Democrats will lose on this impeachment vote (Trump stays in Office)

Question: could they win on their own?

By that I mean since not even impeachment will defeat Trump what else can they do to win?

Look what hasn't worked
  • Fusion GPS
  • Rigging the Dem primaries
  • Access Hollywood
  • Collusion fake Dossier
  • FISA spying
  • Crossfire Hurricane
  • Mueller
  • Stormy
  • Kids in cages
  • Trade war
  • Tax evasion
  • Mid term elections
  • Wall funding failures
  • No collusion
  • Ukraine
  • Bribery
  • Extortion
  • Quid Pro Quo
  • No bribery
  • No extortion
  • No quid pro quo
  • Impeachment
Nothing worked. Trump's more popular than ever. Ahead of all Democrats in all polls. Sellout crowds at his rallies. Record fund raising.

What else can Democrats do to defeat him?

(hint...they've tried all they know, they have nothing left)
 
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Keyser76

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atlkvb said:
Democrats will lose on this impeachment vote (Trump stays in Office)

Question: could they win on their own?

By that I mean since not even impeachment will defeat Trump what else can they do to win?

Look what hasn't worked
  • Fusion GPS
  • Rigging the Dem primaries
  • Access Hollywood
  • Collusion fake Dossier
  • FISA spying
  • Crossfire Hurricane
  • Mueller
  • Stormy
  • Kids in cages
  • Trade war
  • Tax evasion
  • Mid term elections
  • Wall funding failures
  • No collusion
  • Ukraine
  • Bribery
  • Extortion
  • Quid Pro Quo
  • No bribery
  • No extortion
  • No quid pro quo
  • Impeachment
Nothing worked. Trump's more popular than ever. Ahead of all Democrats in all polls. Sellout crowds at his rallies. Record fund raising.

What else can Democrats do to defeat him?

(hint...they've tried all they know, they have nothing left)
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Lol, however did we win two terms with barrack, I guess the demographics passed us by and now we are on the long decline. Call me when there is a bunch of Democrats posting Op eds in the NYT against a Prez of ours like yer boy got today. He ain't leading ya'll anywhere but down a drain, but he represents his tribe well!! Enjoy the winning! it looks good on the team with the KKK and the Nazis on their bench.
 
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30CAT

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Keyser76 said:
He ain't leading ya'll anywhere but down a drain,
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If the following is "a drain" I'm tickled to death...

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in history.
  • More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • Providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • Reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • Reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
 
dave

dave

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Keyser76 said:
Lol, however did we win two terms with barrack, I guess the demographics passed us by and now we are on the long decline. Call me when there is a bunch of Democrats posting Op eds in the NYT against a Prez of ours like yer boy got today. He ain't leading ya'll anywhere but down a drain, but he represents his tribe well!! Enjoy the winning! it looks good on the team with the KKK and the Nazis on their bench.
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If you have two terms and nothing to show for it but a legacy of illegal political investigations, did you win?
 
rog1187

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Keyser76 said:
Lol, however did we win two terms with barrack, I guess the demographics passed us by and now we are on the long decline. Call me when there is a bunch of Democrats posting Op eds in the NYT against a Prez of ours like yer boy got today. He ain't leading ya'll anywhere but down a drain, but he represents his tribe well!! Enjoy the winning! it looks good on the team with the KKK and the Nazis on their bench.
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Check the Federal judge appointments and get back to me. That's the real legacy, but you're too fvcking stupid to realize it.
 
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bamaEER

Freshman
May 29, 2001
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30CAT said:
If the following is "a drain" I'm tickled to death...

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in history.
  • More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • Providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • Reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • Reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
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I just buzzed through this list and this one caught my eye.....

-Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

We already had right to try legislation. What is changed is how we do it. Before, doctors had to get approval from the FDA before experimental treatments get started. Now doctors can notify the FDA afterward.
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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30CAT said:
If the following is "a drain" I'm tickled to death...

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in history.
  • More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • Providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • Reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • Reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
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You will never hear anyone on the Left with a better alternative than these RESULTS.

NEVER
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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Nancy asked God to "Bless" America. Anyone on the Left care to explain who or what she is talking about, and if you agree with her?

Should God Bless America?

Who is that if you're on the atheistic Left?

How would that happen anyway?

Do you want that too, or do you disagree with Madame speaker at least on this particular issue? [eyeroll]


No no atl, we didn't just ask God to Bless America, but Bless Socialism too!

...and our right to kill Babies we don't want whenever we want.

So Nancy you tellin' me God Blesses abortion?

I asked him to Bless America atl, and abortion is part of America whether YOU like it or not!


Um, no Nancy.....

 
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atlkvb

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So Nancy asks God to "Bless " America, but listen to Nancy's constituents at the California State Democrat convention last summer when they were asked to recognize God...and his chosen people in Jerusalem.



So Nancy were you upset with your California Democrats "booing" God and Jerusalem?

Well 'ya know it is a free country atl

So you're asking God to Bless Americans "booing" Jerusalem Nancy?


You're just trying to trap me atl, and I'm not the one being impeached!

We know Nancy, we know.
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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If any Democrat tonight joins Republicans in a bi-partisan vote against impeachment, how many of you Leftists will still vote for that Democrat?

Remember Nancy said the vote must be "bi partisan"? You do realize there may be more "bi-partisan" votes against impeachment than partisan votes for it?

Do you agree with Nancy on this, or is she wrong that the vote must NOT be "partisan"? What will your vote be for a Democrat who votes against impeachment?

Any brave Leftist want to tackle that one? Was Nancy right? Anyone have an honest answer?

Probably not.

Proving Nancy's FOS and most of you all are too! [eyeroll]
 
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30CAT said:
He was charged in a partisan vote...He'll be acquitted in a bipartisan vote.

You actually lose.

Not sorry.
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Acquited in a bi-partisan vote? So you think there will be one Democrat in the Senate to vote against removal from office? Does one make it bipartisan? Thanks in advance for your answers.
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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Any Leftist going to feel sad, or somber, or solemn tonight after Trump's impeached, as Nancy admonishes?

"don't gloat" Nancy said. Was she right? Will you obey her if you're on the Left? Or will you be like


...or like....


...or like


I told them to remain "Prayerful" & solemn atl.

You look really sad there Nancy. [eyeroll]

I am atl, I am!!!!!! Can't you tell?

Yeah sure 'ya Witch [eyeroll]
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

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bamaEER said:
I just buzzed through this list and this one caught my eye.....

-Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

We already had right to try legislation. What is changed is how we do it. Before, doctors had to get approval from the FDA before experimental treatments get started. Now doctors can notify the FDA afterward.
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Before Trump you "HAD" to sign up for Health care (even those lousy ACA exchanges)

Since Trump, all that's been repealed. Yaaaaay!!!!!:clap:
 
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30CAT

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countryroads89 said:
Acquited in a bi-partisan vote? So you think there will be one Democrat in the Senate to vote against removal from office? Does one make it bipartisan? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Yes.

J
And let's not forget a bipartisan vote against in the House.
 
dave

dave

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countryroads89 said:
Acquited in a bi-partisan vote? So you think there will be one Democrat in the Senate to vote against removal from office? Does one make it bipartisan? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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More than one will vote to acquit. One makes it bipartisan by democrats standarss.
 
dave

dave

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BiPARTISAN would suggest 2 partisans agree. An independent is a non-partisan. Its simple.
 
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TarHeelEer

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Interestingly, Pelosi is withholding something obligated to another body until she gets something she wants for personal advantage. This could not be more delicious.

The argument of whether Trump is officially impeached or not is to play out in the courts in the coming days, I almost guarantee. Ironically, the Democrats will be arguing he is not impeached. Mitch will be arguing that he is.
 
rog1187

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TarHeelEer said:
Interestingly, Pelosi is withholding something obligated to another body until she gets something she wants for personal advantage. This could not be more delicious.

The argument of whether Trump is officially impeached or not is to play out in the courts in the coming days, I almost guarantee. Ironically, the Democrats will be arguing he is not impeached. Mitch will be arguing that he is.
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so if he's not officially impeached - how does that impact the bet? What was the time frame on that bet - Christmas or the end of the year?
 
dave

dave

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TarHeelEer said:
Interestingly, Pelosi is withholding something obligated to another body until she gets something she wants for personal advantage. This could not be more delicious.

The argument of whether Trump is officially impeached or not is to play out in the courts in the coming days, I almost guarantee. Ironically, the Democrats will be arguing he is not impeached. Mitch will be arguing that he is.
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If an impeachmebt is a "charge" or an "indictment" I wonder where the POTUS rights to face his accusations and a speedy trial exist. I havent really heard any legal minds diacuss it.
 
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79eer

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Somebody is going to sprain an ankle with all these
wvu2007 said:
December 18th. The bet has expired. Atl gets to remain on the site. Congrats @atlkvb :smiley:
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Dems holding off sending to Senate until assured of a fair trial. Now that’s funny, ..... just when you think it couldn’t get any better!
 
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