ATM backs out of Gator Bowl amid breakout

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Wonder if A & M having only 38 healthy players has something to do with it.
Probably but I sure enjoy making fun of all things Aggie. Maybe the bigger question should be if most all of the team is vaccinated and asymptomatic as I've seen reported why would they be testing in the first place? It's time for an all things covid reality check imo. I doubt Covid will be allowed to cancel any playoff games?
 
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Wonder if A & M having only 38 healthy players has something to do with it.

I'm sure that's the correct numbers and also a perfect excuse. But the latest version of this covid strain is very contagious and has the same symptoms as a bad cold. They canceled 9 days out. With no QB, it appears they're worried more about losing to Wake Forest than they are playing the game.
 

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Probably but I sure enjoy making fun of all things Aggie. Maybe the bigger question should be if most all of the team is vaccinated and asymptomatic as I've seen reported why would they be testing in the first place? It's time for an all things covid reality check imo. I doubt Covid will be allowed to cancel any playoff games?

I just heard that cancelling a playoff game will be an automatic forfeit.
 

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Fear of playing a bowl game is not a factor in ATM backing out. Common sense is.
Rutgers is now going to play Wake Forest.
 
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I'm sure that's the correct numbers and also a perfect excuse. But the latest version of this covid strain is very contagious and has the same symptoms as a bad cold. They canceled 9 days out. With no QB, it appears they're worried more about losing to Wake Forest than they are playing the game.
Agree. I see Bama’s OC and OLine coach tested positive but will coach in their game. So there is a choice which there should be because this Covid has gotten out of hand, A&M chose not to play, their prerogative but I think they should also choose to give up the additional practice days too
 
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I'm sure that's the correct numbers and also a perfect excuse. But the latest version of this covid strain is very contagious and has the same symptoms as a bad cold. They canceled 9 days out. With no QB, it appears they're worried more about losing to Wake Forest than they are playing the game.
Remember a couple years ago when Briles was still at Baylor they went into their bowl game with none of their qb’s, the 3 qb’s had gotten hurt. So they converted a wr, who played qb in high school, changed their offense up a little and won their bowl game. That’s good coaching imo
 
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Come on. A&M wants to play. Would OU play if they had the same problem. No. Why would they? Teams aren’t afraid of anyone.

Aggie is 8-4 and the fans deal w/ this every year. But after winning the recruiting title this year they have something to spout...but then losing to Wake Forest is something that would take the shine off their recruiting title. This is sooo Aggie.
 

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Fear of playing a bowl game is not a factor in ATM backing out. Common sense is.
Rutgers is now going to play Wake Forest.

I respect your view but can not agree. Aggie had nothing to gain by playing and all to lose. Beating Wake Forest gains them nothing. But losing to Wake Forest would set them up to be the butt of the jokes. Right now, in the state of Texas they're waving several flags, "We beat Bama", "We are the 2021 recruiting Champions", and "Texas lost to Kansas". This was a risk vs reward calculated decision. They chose to opt out. Not play. And hide behind the name of science at a time when they can get away with 'saving face' and claim that covid cancelled their bowl game. Sooo Aggie like. There is no honor in this. Suit up who you got. Play the game, T it up.

College Football is slowly, each & every year going to the sh$tter. Opt out by players, NIL, transfer portal and now an entire team opting out. These are trends that do not favor the fan of the sport. But I do recognize that CFB will survive. We all will get adjusted to a watered down version of what once was.
 

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I respect your view but can not agree. Aggie had nothing to gain by playing and all to lose. Beating Wake Forest gains them nothing. But losing to Wake Forest would set them up to be the butt of the jokes. Right now, in the state of Texas they're waving several flags, "We beat Bama", "We are the 2021 recruiting Champions", and "Texas lost to Kansas". This was a risk vs reward calculated decision. They chose to opt out. Not play. And hide behind the name of science at a time when they can get away with 'saving face' and claim that covid cancelled their bowl game. Sooo Aggie like. There is no honor in this. Suit up who you got. Play the game, T it up.

College Football is slowly, each & every year going to the sh$tter. Opt out by players, NIL, transfer portal and now an entire team opting out. These are trends that do not favor the fan of the sport. But I do recognize that CFB will survive. We all will get adjusted to a watered down version of what once was.
So an 8-4 team, ranked 25th, fears a 10-3 team ranked 17th?
20 of the 38 players remaining are offensive and defensive linemen.
ATM takes a big financial hit, but there are more important things to consider in this situation, which have nothing to do with "honor" or "saving face" or "hiding behind the name of science", or not favoring the fan base.
 

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So an 8-4 team, ranked 25th, fears a 10-3 team ranked 17th?
20 of the 38 players remaining are offensive and defensive linemen.
ATM takes a big financial hit, but there are more important things to consider in this situation, which have nothing to do with "honor" or "saving face" or "hiding behind the name of science", or not favoring the fan base.

Yes.
I would imagine that if they were in the playoffs or a team they feel is equal to or superior they would somehow field a team. As they would not want the CFB world to think they are in 'fear of another team. And It isn't that they 'fear' an opposing team itself, they fear the aftermath of a potential loss to Wake Forest. Who they feel is beneath them. Quite frankly, it's evident that you don't really understand the Aggie/Horn battle for Texas. The **** is real down here and it just got ramped up big time w/ UT moving to the SEC.

We'll have to agree to disagree CT.
 

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So an 8-4 team, ranked 25th, fears a 10-3 team ranked 17th?
20 of the 38 players remaining are offensive and defensive linemen.
ATM takes a big financial hit, but there are more important things to consider in this situation, which have nothing to do with "honor" or "saving face" or "hiding behind the name of science", or not favoring the fan base.
more important things

Can you name 5? 3?
 

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I respect your view but can not agree. Aggie had nothing to gain by playing and all to lose. Beating Wake Forest gains them nothing. But losing to Wake Forest would set them up to be the butt of the jokes. Right now, in the state of Texas they're waving several flags, "We beat Bama", "We are the 2021 recruiting Champions", and "Texas lost to Kansas". This was a risk vs reward calculated decision. They chose to opt out. Not play. And hide behind the name of science at a time when they can get away with 'saving face' and claim that covid cancelled their bowl game. Sooo Aggie like. There is no honor in this. Suit up who you got. Play the game, T it up.

College Football is slowly, each & every year going to the sh$tter. Opt out by players, NIL, transfer portal and now an entire team opting out. These are trends that do not favor the fan of the sport. But I do recognize that CFB will survive. We all will get adjusted to a watered down version of what once was.
Good points and I heard a guy on a podcast the other day alluding to this very thing about players and now an entire team opting out. I could be wrong but this move by A&M is unprecedented and it appears that their qb that was going to play is coming out today and denying a report he tested positive or was unavailable due to Covid. Seems the players want to play but this may be an ego thing with Jimbo.

Anyway, the guy in the podcast used this very scenario to expand the playoffs, in essence it would stop most of the guys from opting out who really shouldn’t be. We can point to our own players this year who have opted out and by most accounts I’ve heard are no higher than 3rd rounders at best.
 
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Yes.
I would imagine that if they were in the playoffs or a team they feel is equal to or superior they would somehow field a team. As they would not want the CFB world to think they are in 'fear of another team. And It isn't that they 'fear' an opposing team itself, they fear the aftermath of a potential loss to Wake Forest. Who they feel is beneath them. Quite frankly, it's evident that you don't really understand the Aggie/Horn battle for Texas. The **** is real down here and it just got ramped up big time w/ UT moving to the SEC.

We'll have to agree to disagree CT.
I am from Texas, living 30 years there, so I'm aware of "the **** being real" (and excessive) in Texas.
Any team in the country, faced with a 38-player roster, would do the same as ATM....for a playoff game or any bowl game.
Wake Forest does not have a great football history by any means, but it managed to field a good, bowl caliber team this year. And as we know as OU fans, playing a team we regard as "beneath" our team, can backfire, going as far back as Notre Dame in 1957.
 

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Most all good teams have faced bowl game opponents they didn't want to play. Florida last year w/ us at the Cotton Bowl, but they showed up for their butt whipping. Bama a few years before that and Trevor lit'em up. Boise St taking us down w/ gadget plays etc. The point is, you play the game. Aggie just Aggied. I have seriously lost a great deal of respect for that team going forward. And a lot has changed between UT & Aggie since they bolted to the SEC. What once was a contentious but respected rivalry has become a downright hateful situation. There is a sincere ugliness between these two now. This year's recruiting shows this. I do believe that sooner enough, one of these two teams will rat out the other on payouts.
 

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Yes.
I would imagine that if they were in the playoffs or a team they feel is equal to or superior they would somehow field a team. As they would not want the CFB world to think they are in 'fear of another team. And It isn't that they 'fear' an opposing team itself, they fear the aftermath of a potential loss to Wake Forest. Who they feel is beneath them. Quite frankly, it's evident that you don't really understand the Aggie/Horn battle for Texas. The **** is real down here and it just got ramped up big time w/ UT moving to the SEC.

We'll have to agree to disagree CT.
I thought football was a game of never quit. And I’ll have to quote one of my favorite actors of all time, John Belushi.
Yes.
I would imagine that if they were in the playoffs or a team they feel is equal to or superior they would somehow field a team. As they would not want the CFB world to think they are in 'fear of another team. And It isn't that they 'fear' an opposing team itself, they fear the aftermath of a potential loss to Wake Forest. Who they feel is beneath them. Quite frankly, it's evident that you don't really understand the Aggie/Horn battle for Texas. The **** is real down here and it just got ramped up big time w/ UT moving to the SEC.

We'll have to agree to disagree CT.
I thought football was a game of never quit. What kind of message is this saying to all those 5 stars. Aggies are quitters?
 

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1....the pandemic
2....injuries (at least 4)
3....transfers (3)
4...NFL (1)
THE PANDEMIC!!!!

ha... Ok. Last I checked, none of us get to pick when we die. All of a sudden, there's a new Cold strain, and a bunch of politicians like to educate us that we can pick the day we die.
 
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