i could deal with it until the commercial where they're in the film room and suddenly schnatter is on the projector
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Attn Peyton Manning: It's Time.
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i could deal with it until the commercial where they're in the film room and suddenly schnatter is on the projector
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I agree it didn't make any sense for him to retire after the Super Bowl season in his first year with the Bronco's. There was no indication from the outside that the next year would be any different. And my statement was a bit of an over-reaction to the moment, but you have to think he knew this physical decline that dates back to the second half of last season was coming. And he clearly should have retired before this season.
Hopefully he plays well this weekend and Broncos can get back to the Super Bowl. I can't stand the Patriots.
Hopefully he plays well this weekend and Broncos can get back to the Super Bowl. I can't stand the Patriots.
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If there's a God, please just let Peyton make one last stand. I don't want to live in a world where Brady and the Pats have 5 or 6 (illegitimate) rings.
Hear that splash? It's fake *** Pats fans diving into the Boston Harbor. Good. Hope it's cold.
I was obviously wrong. Peyton looked great in the first half. Didn't do anything in the second half but by that point he had gotten his defense enough that it didn't matter. On to the Super Bowl. It's great to see him and the Broncos there again. Especially Trevathan.
Manning is the darth vader of football. He is like more machine than man. Hooked up to an iron lung and everyone around him begging him to quit. Meanwhile he limps out there and just finds a way to win. I'm pretty sure he did that sith lord choke thing to one of the Patriots assistants as he walked off the field.
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Attention Peyton Manning: It's time…
...to pack your bags. You're going to another Super Bowl.
[laughing] I hate to say "thread fail"…but it did. So i did.
Panthers with another 2 TD 1st quarter.. In the conference title game no less.. I think this Superbowl is a wrap.
I LOVE Cam. Then again, I'm a huge Panthers fan. That said, he is pretty well liked nationally.
Ehh, He doesn't seem to be too-well liked from what I've seen. Although I enjoy his game and think he's a good dude. A lot of people are turned off by his antics, dancing, and cockiness.
Personally I love it. And I don't think he's ever done it in a disrespectful manner. The dude is winning and he's having a ball doing it. Hasn't done anything to insinuate he's a poor sport or a bad role model.
Personally I love it. And I don't think he's ever done it in a disrespectful manner. The dude is winning and he's having a ball doing it. Hasn't done anything to insinuate he's a poor sport or a bad role model.
Trying to win a sports writing award in 1992? Was it Peyton inspiring the D to hit Brady more than any QB has been hit in a game this year? Maybe it was Peyton missing the TD pass that would have put the Broncos up two scores, essentially icing the game, that was just finding a way to win? Maybe it was the 1 score margin that inspired the defense to compete so well, stopping two fourth down attempts and a two point conversion? So good job, Peyton, keeping it close enough to inspire your defense to knock down Brady so many times. #winner
Why do you dislike Peyton? I always thought he was a pretty cool dude, and funny to boot.
That is true, one is black and young and one is white and old. One is "smart" and the other "athletic".
The next two weeks should be interesting. The only more falsely polarizing athlete I can think of is John Wall, but that's mostly just Cowherd.
Has nothing to do with race and everything to do with personality and actions. Peyton is "Mr. Business" an old school type who doesn't get in your face or showboat. Cam Newton on the other hand, talks trash, showboats, celebrates constantly and is extremely cocky. He's even more disliked now than he was at Auburn.
Agree its not about race, but Newton does do cool things that rent all bad.
Yes it does, if even its only subconsciously for most people. One is an old white guy that relies on "smarts" and one is a young cocky black guy that relies on "athleticism". The story practically writes itself. I mean can you think of two more different or differently perceived quarterbacks? Joe Namath vs. Unitas maybe?
Thats one angle. The other is that they are both winners. Thats a good story. Old guard vs new guard. They both have a chance to make history. Manning with 2 rings, different teams, Cam with being a Hiesman/College BCS winner.
I dont know. People see that they want to see.
I dont know. People see that they want to see.
Not saying those things will be a part of the narrative or a factor for some folks but still think race is my the reason.
It's why most of us hate Johnny Manziel. He's a cocky showboating douche. That's not even including his off the field stuff.
^ But Johnny Manziel has done stuff to undermine his team. Cam Newton is by all accounts a wonderful human being and great teammate. Comparing them because they celebrate is pretty ridiculous. I don't get the angst over celebrating, but then again I don't get the appeal of all those crime shows on CBS that rate well, so whatever.
While the Broncos won the Super Bowl, Manning did just about as much as Trent Dilfer did for the Ravens in 2000. Team success does not equal great QB play. He is done and he knows it. He will ride off into the sunset a champ and go into the HOF in 5 years. Great career and an amazing fitting end for one of the all time greats.
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I didn't see Cam celebrate even once on the field tonight. [winking]
The fact of the matter is that Manning simply doesn't have much left in the tank. His throws are generally wobbly and he seems to be getting more and more thin and frail every season that passes. Why would he want to risk another season and injuring himself permanently or even worse, having a super poor showing be his swan song?
I understand that he loves the game, but if he truly loved it then he'd want the quality of the talent on the field to be the best it could be, and he simply isn't as good as he was two seasons ago. His abilities are being limited by age and the longer he stays in the game, the more it hurts his legacy.
He has a lot to be happy about. He can end his career on the highest of highs. Not only is he a 2x Super Bowl champ (which puts him in elite company and is two more than Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, or even his dad, Archie ever won), but he's now tied with his brother with two rings apiece and there is almost ZERO chance that Eli even sniffs another Super Bowl in his playing career, let alone win one, so Peyton can be happy with the knowledge that he managed to not only go to four Super Bowls with four different coaches, but he won two of them with two different teams (the only time a starting QB has ever done that). He's also holds the record for career passing yards and career passing TD's, as well as most passing touchdowns for a season which are the three most coveted records by QB's (not to mention he holds a plethora of other passing records). What more can he accomplish?
Peyton is a shoe-in Hall of Famer and has shown a penchant for showmanship and for certain has a long and illustrious career behind the mic ahead of him as an NFL commentator. It's time to hand the ball off to the next generation and ride off into the sunset.
I understand that he loves the game, but if he truly loved it then he'd want the quality of the talent on the field to be the best it could be, and he simply isn't as good as he was two seasons ago. His abilities are being limited by age and the longer he stays in the game, the more it hurts his legacy.
He has a lot to be happy about. He can end his career on the highest of highs. Not only is he a 2x Super Bowl champ (which puts him in elite company and is two more than Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, or even his dad, Archie ever won), but he's now tied with his brother with two rings apiece and there is almost ZERO chance that Eli even sniffs another Super Bowl in his playing career, let alone win one, so Peyton can be happy with the knowledge that he managed to not only go to four Super Bowls with four different coaches, but he won two of them with two different teams (the only time a starting QB has ever done that). He's also holds the record for career passing yards and career passing TD's, as well as most passing touchdowns for a season which are the three most coveted records by QB's (not to mention he holds a plethora of other passing records). What more can he accomplish?
Peyton is a shoe-in Hall of Famer and has shown a penchant for showmanship and for certain has a long and illustrious career behind the mic ahead of him as an NFL commentator. It's time to hand the ball off to the next generation and ride off into the sunset.
Really like Manning... but you're absolutely right.
He gets to go out on top, with the Denver D gift wrapping a SB victory for him, and getting some redemption for that curb-stomping he took 2 years ago. The 2nd SB ring puts him in a whole other level in FB History. He's (relatively) healthy and has so many endorsement deals... with more lined up, I'm sure. A nice broadcasting job will be there for the taking.
Take the storybook ending, Peyton... few get that kind of chance... and wait a few years for somebody to pitch the big movie biopic deal about you.
Just to play Devil's Advocate..
You gotta wonder.. Denver is still an amazing team, and they will be franchising Miller in the off-season. That defense can take Denver back to the playoffs by themselves. As for offense, Peyton needs keep the O-line as solid as possible, add in a RB, and maybe a big Gronk type WR or TE to just dump the ball to fast and avoid taking hits. He'd literally just be a game manager at that point.
But 3 rings, plus the stats to go with it, would make him GOAT for a most people. I wonder if he's thought about that.
Still, I think he retires. That type of upset, to get your second ring, for Superbowl 50.. how do you not ride off into the sunset?
You gotta wonder.. Denver is still an amazing team, and they will be franchising Miller in the off-season. That defense can take Denver back to the playoffs by themselves. As for offense, Peyton needs keep the O-line as solid as possible, add in a RB, and maybe a big Gronk type WR or TE to just dump the ball to fast and avoid taking hits. He'd literally just be a game manager at that point.
But 3 rings, plus the stats to go with it, would make him GOAT for a most people. I wonder if he's thought about that.
Still, I think he retires. That type of upset, to get your second ring, for Superbowl 50.. how do you not ride off into the sunset?
Manning has to retire at this point. Very fortunate for it to end this way for him.
I'm not sure which was worse, Rubio's exchange with Christie, or Cam's post game presser.
I'm not sure which was worse, Rubio's exchange with Christie, or Cam's post game presser.
Since Peyton is a class act and I have the class of a $13.28 hooker...this is what I WISH would be his retirement announcement:
"Thanks for coming out. After discussing this with my family and my doctors, I have decided to retire from football. Having said this, all of you losers who couldn't carry my jock in a bucket, but always said I never won the big one can suck MY Big One. For all you hyenas that said I couldn't beat Florida in college...I'm sporting TWO Super Bowl rings. Sure, Wuerffel has a Heisman trophy, but how many rings does he have. I'll answer it for ya. Zero, zilch, nada, nein, not.a.single.one. Plus, I didn't play defense so how the hell could I beat Florida?
For all you jackleg bastards comparing me to Brady, give me Belichek's defense and I'd have as many rings as Montana and Bradshaw. Hell, my team has beaten Brady's team the last 3 times heads up, but y'all don't say anything about that. So bite me.
I'll close by saying it's been a good rodeo, but it's good to leave your last roundup as a champion. So all of you haters can kiss my rich, white, Budweiser guzzling, Super Bowl champion ***.
Y'all have a nice day."
"Thanks for coming out. After discussing this with my family and my doctors, I have decided to retire from football. Having said this, all of you losers who couldn't carry my jock in a bucket, but always said I never won the big one can suck MY Big One. For all you hyenas that said I couldn't beat Florida in college...I'm sporting TWO Super Bowl rings. Sure, Wuerffel has a Heisman trophy, but how many rings does he have. I'll answer it for ya. Zero, zilch, nada, nein, not.a.single.one. Plus, I didn't play defense so how the hell could I beat Florida?
For all you jackleg bastards comparing me to Brady, give me Belichek's defense and I'd have as many rings as Montana and Bradshaw. Hell, my team has beaten Brady's team the last 3 times heads up, but y'all don't say anything about that. So bite me.
I'll close by saying it's been a good rodeo, but it's good to leave your last roundup as a champion. So all of you haters can kiss my rich, white, Budweiser guzzling, Super Bowl champion ***.
Y'all have a nice day."
There's no doubt in my mind that pound for pound.. Manning over Brady. Brady had the defense and the coaching. Receivers are a push. Running game is maybe in Peyton's favor. Colts collapsed without Manning, Pats were fine without Brady.. Manning went #1 overall to a garbage team.. Brady went to a team that was just a QB away from being top5.
It's funny to see the one group of people, Pats fans, talk about how Manning needed a kicker and his defense to win the Superbowl for him. Seriously, New England/Boston might be the dumbest sports town in the nation.
If I'm choosing a QB to build a team around for 15 years, I'm going with Manning, at least for this generation of football. And it's not even close..
It's funny to see the one group of people, Pats fans, talk about how Manning needed a kicker and his defense to win the Superbowl for him. Seriously, New England/Boston might be the dumbest sports town in the nation.
If I'm choosing a QB to build a team around for 15 years, I'm going with Manning, at least for this generation of football. And it's not even close..
Good points.
Manning went to four Super Bowls with four different coaches. Tom Brady has had Bill his whole career. When Brady went down, the Pats went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. When Manning went down, the Colts went 2-14.
When it comes to "rings" in football, I kind of think you at least need probably more than one to be the GOAT. There are only three guys who I feel are in that category. Montana, Manning and Brady. Favre is right behind them and Marino is behind Favre for me.
To go back to the "needing a defense and kicker" for Manning to win rings thing, let's look at that. In all four of Brady's Super Bowl wins, those could have went the other way just as easily. His four victories combined for a 13 point margin of victory. He's just as easily one bad kick-off out of bounds and an interception at the one yard-line from only having two titles.
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I don't get into the whole who's greater thing, Brady or Manning. Both are HOF QBs, however, I do think Brady is a cheater of sorts.
Lol it's hard to have so many posts in a thread with as many wrong opinions as this one ended up having. I'm happy for Peyton. He deserved that title.
I think Peyton is done and not only is he the greatest QB in football history but he's also the best football player no matter what position to ever put on pads in the history of football. He not only lives a perfect life off the field but on it he's the smartest player in the league and the most skilled (excluding this and last year).
His stats are something that will probably won't be touched unless Brady plays another 2-4 years. He's got 5, I think, MVP's and has 2 SB rings. While he always had good receivers, the rest of his teammates on his teams have usually been average or slightly above compared to other good teams.
He's done everything possible in football. The Heisman is all he missed on. Honestly, he was absolutely robbed of a Heisman. Charles Woodson winning it over Peyton was a total joke.
I think Peyton is done and not only is he the greatest QB in football history but he's also the best football player no matter what position to ever put on pads in the history of football. He not only lives a perfect life off the field but on it he's the smartest player in the league and the most skilled (excluding this and last year).
His stats are something that will probably won't be touched unless Brady plays another 2-4 years. He's got 5, I think, MVP's and has 2 SB rings. While he always had good receivers, the rest of his teammates on his teams have usually been average or slightly above compared to other good teams.
He's done everything possible in football. The Heisman is all he missed on. Honestly, he was absolutely robbed of a Heisman. Charles Woodson winning it over Peyton was a total joke.