Audio of liberal icon, Lyndon Banes Johnson, describing African Americans using the N word

WVPATX

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lol You're desperate, geez. I guess you're trying to distract people from the Russian loving tweeting disaster that's about to take office.

Johnson is a lib icon. Listen to his words. And you wonder why Dems use and abuse blacks. From Robert KKK Bryd to George Wallace, Dems have abused blacks for their own gain. Same with LBJ. His 65 Act was purely show to get black votes. He obviously had zero respect for them.
 

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Johnson is a lib icon. Listen to his words. And you wonder why Dems use and abuse blacks. From Robert KKK Bryd to George Wallace, Dems have abused blacks for their own gain. Same with LBJ. His 65 Act was purely show to get black votes. He obviously had zero respect for them.
Keep trying to rewrite history, you are a crazy person.
 

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Keep trying to rewrite history, you are a crazy person.

Rewrite history? The video speaks for itself. Did you even listen to it? More Republicans voted for the 65 Act both in the House and the Senate. Lincoln was a Republican. Those are unassailable facts.

Robert Byrd was a KKK member. George Wallace a Dem. All facts.
 

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Rewrite history? The video speaks for itself. Did you even listen to it? More Republicans voted for the 65 Act both in the House and the Senate. Lincoln was a Republican. Those are unassailable facts.
And republicans through history were so balanced with regards to race?
 

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Rewrite history? The video speaks for itself. Did you even listen to it? More Republicans voted for the 65 Act both in the House and the Senate. Lincoln was a Republican. Those are unassailable facts.

Robert Byrd was a KKK member. George Wallace a Dem. All facts.
Maybe you could live in the here and now instead of your weak attempts to dig dirt by going back many decades. LBJ has been dead over 40 years lol, get a life why don't you?
 

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Maybe you could live in the here and now instead of your weak attempts to dig dirt by going back many decades. LBJ has been dead over 40 years lol, get a life why don't you?

Are you denying Johnson was racist? Are you denying the GOP passed the 65 Act with some Dem help? Are you denying Dems history of racism? It is in our history books for all to see. Bull Conner was a Democrat
 

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And republicans through history were so balanced with regards to race?

Much, much more balanced than Dems. Starting with Abraham Lincoln, the greatest friend blacks have ever had in America.

For you see, Dem policies toward blacks have actually had the perverse effect of hurting them. It was not their intention, in my opinion, just very, very poor policy. Now Dem's running inner cities are doing great damage to blacks. Dems take blacks for granted since they know they get 95% of their vote regardless of what the black condition is.
 

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Darn it, I was going to predict a reference to how the GOP is superior because Lincoln was a Republican was coming, I should have done it. Hey, Teddy Roosevelt was big on conservation and he was a Republican, maybe that makes the GOP superior to the Democrats.on the environment.

But seriously, when you try to score points from guys that have been dead for decades or centuries it just looks silly. Politics isn't an eternal game where nothing changes. Just a couple years ago the GOP was the party of free trade and in favor of the TPP and look how things have changed.

I agree that blacks voting so strongly Democrat (or any single party) hurts them in the long run but the reason they do is they don't perceive they have a viable alternative. If you want blacks to vote GOP then saying "You're idiots for voting Dem so much for so long" isn't the way to do it. You have to make them feel welcome and that involves changing of the tone of GOP politics.
 

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Darn it, I was going to predict a reference to how the GOP is superior because Lincoln was a Republican was coming, I should have done it. Hey, Teddy Roosevelt was big on conservation and he was a Republican, maybe that makes the GOP superior to the Democrats.on the environment.

But seriously, when you try to score points from guys that have been dead for decades or centuries it just looks silly. Politics isn't an eternal game where nothing changes. Just a couple years ago the GOP was the party of free trade and in favor of the TPP and look how things have changed.

I agree that blacks voting so strongly Democrat (or any single party) hurts them in the long run but the reason they do is they don't perceive they have a viable alternative. If you want blacks to vote GOP then saying "You're idiots for voting Dem so much for so long" isn't the way to do it. You have to make them feel welcome and that involves changing of the tone of GOP politics.

Are the current woes of inner city blacks due to guys long dead? No, this is happening today. Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee and other major cities where murders have risen dramatically are run by Dems. The education system, which is the worst in the U.S. are run by Dems. The lack of jobs, high crime rates, are in cities run by Dems.

I posted that Dems are purposefully trying to hurt blacks, but their misguided policies have that effect. The Dems take blacks for granted. Under Obama, the black condition got worse, not better.
 

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Are the current woes of inner city blacks due to guys long dead? No, this is happening today. Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee and other major cities where murders have risen dramatically are run by Dems. The education system, which is the worst in the U.S. are run by Dems. The lack of jobs, high crime rates, are in cities run by Dems.

I posted that Dems are purposefully trying to hurt blacks, but their misguided policies have that effect. The Dems take blacks for granted. Under Obama, the black condition got worse, not better.

And yet despite that they still vote strongly for Dems. Ask yourself why, assuming you're truly interested in the answer.
 

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Much, much more balanced than Dems. Starting with Abraham Lincoln, the greatest friend blacks have ever had in America.

For you see, Dem policies toward blacks have actually had the perverse effect of hurting them. It was not their intention, in my opinion, just very, very poor policy. Now Dem's running inner cities are doing great damage to blacks. Dems take blacks for granted since they know they get 95% of their vote regardless of what the black condition is.
where you so dense to think that Johnson wasn't racist? He was from....Texas and grew up in the first half of the 20th century. Truman was much worse. He wasn't an icon to me. The man escalated Vietnam.
 

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where you so dense to think that Johnson wasn't racist? He was from....Texas and grew up in the first half of the 20th century. Truman was much worse. He wasn't an icon to me. The man escalated Vietnam.

Johnson is an icon. Truman a hero, in my opinion. One of my favorite Dem presidents. Saved millions of lives, Imo.
 

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Johnson is an icon. Truman a hero, in my opinion. One of my favorite Dem presidents. Saved millions of lives, Imo.

Truman said racist things too. By current standards most people that long ago were racists. For that matter, Lincoln didn't want to just free the slaves, he wanted to ship them out of the country.
 

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Truman said racist things too. By current standards most people that long ago were racists. For that matter, Lincoln didn't want to just free the slaves, he wanted to ship them out of the country.

Absolutely, positively a lie about Lincoln.

The short answer is that Lincoln had long favored the "colonization" option, though as a voluntary option rather than a mandated removal. Moreover, his issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, rendered even that voluntary option effectively dead -- and since that was more than two years before the end of the war on April 9, 1865, his assassination didn’t stop it from happening. Lincoln never spoke publicly of colonization after issuing the proclamation, and apparently did little behind the scenes to advance the idea after that date, focusing instead on creating a post-war society that included both blacks and whites.

"The post is preposterous," said Michael Burlingame, a historian who holds a distinguished chair in Lincoln studies at the University of Illinois at Springfield.
 

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Absolutely, positively a lie about Lincoln.

The short answer is that Lincoln had long favored the "colonization" option, though as a voluntary option rather than a mandated removal. Moreover, his issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, rendered even that voluntary option effectively dead -- and since that was more than two years before the end of the war on April 9, 1865, his assassination didn’t stop it from happening. Lincoln never spoke publicly of colonization after issuing the proclamation, and apparently did little behind the scenes to advance the idea after that date, focusing instead on creating a post-war society that included both blacks and whites.

"The post is preposterous," said Michael Burlingame, a historian who holds a distinguished chair in Lincoln studies at the University of Illinois at Springfield.

So wait a second, suddenly what a POTUS does trumps some other words he said? It wasn't like that a couple minutes ago when some racist remarks LBJ said trumped the Civil Rights Act he pushed through.
 

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And yet despite that they still vote strongly for Dems. Ask yourself why, assuming you're truly interested in the answer.

I think that it started in a large way in the 40's with FDR's New Deal program and desegregation of the military. I also believe that blacks wrongly associate the 65 Act as a Democrat passed Act, when in fact more Republicans voted for it than Dems.

Regardless, I think blacks who voted for Trump more so than Romney, are at the beginning stages of reconsidering their voting pattern. I think that after years of Dem rule in inner cities, they are seeing that Dem programs simply are not working. I also think because blacks suffered under slavery for so long, they tend to stick together.

From the Wash Post:

Despite this history, there is still no clean alignment between how blacks describe their political ideology and which candidates they vote for. As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

There are two explanations for this incongruence. The first centers on racial unity: Black voters use the group’s well-being as a proxy for their own interests; the “black utility heuristic.” Other studies suggest racial identity and social pressure shape blacks into an electoral monolith. The idea is that blacks vote similarly as a show of solidarity.