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Baker for Heisman
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Is there a player anywhere in CFB that means more to his team's success than Mayfield ?
Case closed.
Case closed.
Given Baker's "unlikeability" in terms of national perception, OU will have to win the Big 12 for him to win the Heisman.
If Manziel can win it, Baker definitely should get it.
Agree. Thank goodness for Baker that precedent has been set. That said, if we don't win the rest of our regular season games, Baker will be on the outside looking in, I'm afraid.
If OU wins the Big 12 and advances further, ESPN and the rest of the media can lube up the Heisman Trophy and stick it if they deem Mayfield unworthy for his silly act in Arkansas.....similar to Gurriel's taunt of Darvish in the World Series.....which Darvish handled perfectly as opposed to PC outrage and hysteria.
We've really become a society of "glass jaw" wimps and sissies.
He better shore up those boneheaded passes. Yes, he got a lot of passing yards, but he still threw two ill-advised passes for INTs and nearly had a 3rd when he threw blindly on a side screen to the WR that was covered.
I think the pickers might be a tad more cautious these days as they learned what a Manziel selection didn't pan out to well from an image point of view. Having said this, I don't see any player out there that deserves it more than Baker. OU will need to play in a quality Bowl game to promote the Heisman title/name/brand.
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I could see Baker winning it this year and Kyler Murray winning it next year. 
Me like it.I could see Baker winning it this year and Kyler Murray winning it next year.
How many Mulligans should a Heismasn get? IMO, ZERO.
Baker hasn't taken one, but Saquon has had four by my count:
vs. Indiana: 20 5rushes for 56 yards (2.8 ypc); 4 catches for 51 yards.
vs. Northwestern: 16 rushes for 75 yards (4.7 ypc), 2 catches for 9 yards.
vs. tOSU (loss): 21 rushes for 44 yards (2.1 ypc), 4 catches for 23 yards
vs MSU (loss):14 rushes for 63 yards (4.5 ypc), 3 catches for 33 yards
I get that he runs back KOs (fine, let him run against Pettis for KO returner AA honors), but the hype that he's this electrifying and bruising runner is a bald face lie. Rushing for 56, 75, 44 and 63 yards - two in loses when his team needed him to step up - is not even pedestrian.
Saquon has ridden atop the Heisman leader board almost all year long based solely on a great game against Iowa. Otherwise, when the Nittany Lions hit the meat of their schedule the guy has been workmanlike or forgettable, not Heisman-caliber. Hell, Barkley needs 410 rushing yards just to equal Joe Mixon's output last year...and Mixon was splitting time with Perrine (and even ran back a KO for a TD vs tOSU). Yet Barkley is Mayfield's primary competition? This shouldn't even be close.
Baker hasn't taken one, but Saquon has had four by my count:
vs. Indiana: 20 5rushes for 56 yards (2.8 ypc); 4 catches for 51 yards.
vs. Northwestern: 16 rushes for 75 yards (4.7 ypc), 2 catches for 9 yards.
vs. tOSU (loss): 21 rushes for 44 yards (2.1 ypc), 4 catches for 23 yards
vs MSU (loss):14 rushes for 63 yards (4.5 ypc), 3 catches for 33 yards
I get that he runs back KOs (fine, let him run against Pettis for KO returner AA honors), but the hype that he's this electrifying and bruising runner is a bald face lie. Rushing for 56, 75, 44 and 63 yards - two in loses when his team needed him to step up - is not even pedestrian.
Saquon has ridden atop the Heisman leader board almost all year long based solely on a great game against Iowa. Otherwise, when the Nittany Lions hit the meat of their schedule the guy has been workmanlike or forgettable, not Heisman-caliber. Hell, Barkley needs 410 rushing yards just to equal Joe Mixon's output last year...and Mixon was splitting time with Perrine (and even ran back a KO for a TD vs tOSU). Yet Barkley is Mayfield's primary competition? This shouldn't even be close.
Just think about throwing that many passes. You can’t expect anyone that plays like Baker to be perfect. The guy’s hair is on fire for 4 quarters. There’s bound to be mistakes. I doubt Baker worries much about what the Heisman voters think.
Baker's Winning would definitely Balance OUr Heisman Trophies...We have 3 Ball Carriers/2 QBs...Hope we can make it 3/3...
Man, I just vehemenantly disagree. Not that he doesn’t need to shore up any and all mistakes....but you can and should say that about every player.
Look at how many throws he makes. You’re picking on three. He has only three other iinterceptions. In a year when he passes over 300 times, that’s a pretty safe number.
And remember, the other guys have bad plays as well. None, absolutely none of them, have as many great plays as Baker.
Baker mentioned those pucks after the game. So he is very aware of them. We will miss him.