Bardo Hates NU

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On the BTN show tonight, he has pissed all over the Cats. Called them to struggle against Rutgers (!), and said that they might not make the NCAAT if they don't win a game. Stephen, why the hate????
 

JournCat

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The massive sports media wave has caused some backlash, particularly among fans and alumni of the orange team. That said, if we lose to Rutgers, we will be in slight danger of not making the tournament. Bardo's not wrong there.
 

NJCat

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The massive sports media wave has caused some backlash, particularly among fans and alumni of the orange team. That said, if we lose to Rutgers, we will be in slight danger of not making the tournament. Bardo's not wrong there.

Sorry. Jon Crispin corrected him, even with a loss to Rutgers, as soft as the bubble is NU is a lock.
 

D_C_B

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On the BTN show tonight, he has pissed all over the Cats. Called them to struggle against Rutgers (!), and said that they might not make the NCAAT if they don't win a game. Stephen, why the hate????

He totally hates NU. He's as biased as biased gets. Always dumping on the Cats.

Probably because he was a superior athlete who never upped his game and was the worst starter on his college team and totally lapped by all his teammates.
 

D_C_B

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Pretty stupid comment there, D_C_B.
I know. That's why I changed while you were posting He does hate NU. I've felt that for years. What the reason is doesn't really matter.

What I was trying to get at was the intrinsic bias that naturally super-gifted athletes have in terms of only looking at other athletes in terms of their athleticism. When all you have is a hammer, you see everything as a nail. That sort of thing. He looks down on us because we're not as athletic as he and his teammates were. Inherent bias. That's what I wanted to get at. It works the other way, too: the less-gifted, hard working grinders tend to like and admire and respect other hard working grinders.
 

julescat

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I agree with Windy City. I have found Bardo to be quite fair for as long as I have listened to him.
 

olsh

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Yeah, I think he's fine, or at least he has from the games I've watched. I don't know that what he said was WRONG necessarily. But I think OSU beats Rutgers.
 

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I know. That's why I changed while you were posting He does hate NU. I've felt that for years. What the reason is doesn't really matter.

What I was trying to get at was the intrinsic bias that naturally super-gifted athletes have in terms of only looking at other athletes in terms of their athleticism. When all you have is a hammer, you see everything as a nail. That sort of thing. He looks down on us because we're not as athletic as he and his teammates were. Inherent bias. That's what I wanted to get at. It works the other way, too: the less-gifted, hard working grinders tend to like and admire and respect other hard working grinders.
Still stupid
 

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Yeah, I think he's fine, or at least he has from the games I've watched. I don't know that what he said was WRONG necessarily. But I think OSU beats Rutgers.

He only talks from the other team's perspective and in a slanted way as well.

We rattle off 10 points in a row, it's because they're playing bad defense.


They rattle off 10 in a row, now they're playing the way he knows they can play and now NU is in trouble because we can't hang with this...

That sort of thing.

That's the way it seems to me.
 

Styre

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I've never felt that Bardo is biased against NU.

I don't think he's a good analyst - he says a lot of dumb stuff - but I've always found him fair.
 

GOUNUII

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I've never felt that Bardo is biased against NU.

I don't think he's a good analyst - he says a lot of dumb stuff - but I've always found him fair.

I think he has a very common bias against less athletic teams in how he calls a game. And that would never play well to NU fans. There is some truth to the example given that Bardo (and most other observers) see NU success as largely the failure of our opponent and their success against us as the expected norm. That's not an NU specific or Bardo bias. We just happen to be the less athletic team in nearly all of our conference matchups.

Here's hoping we can turn the tables with our next 5 recruits. If we can get Smith in April and move up the athletic food chain with the 2018 class, Bardo and others will see NU in a much different light. And Collins will be able to add a few years to his life expectancy.

GOUNUII
 
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On the BTN show tonight, he has pissed all over the Cats. Called them to struggle against Rutgers (!), and said that they might not make the NCAAT if they don't win a game. Stephen, why the hate????

I've said it for years. He tends to be quite negative toward NU for whatever reason.

That being said, I think he's a decent to good broadcaster. BTN could (and has) done much worse than him.
 
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I think he has a very common bias against less athletic teams in how he calls a game. And that would never play well to NU fans. There is some truth to the example given that Bardo (and most other observers) see NU success as largely the failure of our opponent and their success against us as the expected norm. That's not an NU specific or Bardo bias. We just happen to be the less athletic team in nearly all of our conference matchups.

I can buy this.

It always seems like Bardo is waiting for the other shoe to drop with NU...like when he called the 'Cats epic collapse against his alma mater back in 2009. When it doesn't happen, he tends to go with back handed compliments. Not entirely surprising considering what some of his "flying Illini" peers said about NU during an episode of "the journey" this year.
 

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Right. Because he offers an opinion you don't like regarding your favored team, it must be due to some sort of bias against your team.

His take is spot-on. The folks here prematurely celebrating a bid are setting themselves up for quite the fall.
 

Sec_112

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a) I agree the dopey Illini fans are showing a bit of their true colors. Last week, I heard one sports talk show host who started to get killed with texts whining why NU and Illinois aren't judged similarly, and why NU is given a pass. :rolleyes:

b) I agree Bardo has a slight problem with NU.

c) Maybe he has a problem because of me. Four or five years ago, he made his way down a row directly behind me five minutes after the games started and while play was in progress. I gave him a little jab, saying, "Com' on, Bardo. The game started five minutes ago. This isn't Champaign."
 

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a) I agree the dopey Illini fans are showing a bit of their true colors. Last week, I heard one sports talk show host who started to get killed with texts whining why NU and Illinois aren't judged similarly, and why NU is given a pass. :rolleyes:

I think Illini fans have a good argument. Their OOC results are comparable to ours, and they beat us head-to-head twice this year. We only have 3 wins against teams over .500 in the conference, they match that with wins over MSU and NU twice. If they hadn't lost twice to PSU and to Rutgers, they would be ahead of us in the standings. Not much difference and they beat us twice!
 

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My guess/prediction: With the way the bid thieves are themselves being robbed, it is looking more and more like Illinois may be invited for a play-in game assuming they can win two games in the BTT.
 

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Good example of Bardo bias. Before NU-Iowa, he predicts Iowa over NU due to their size. After NU beats Iowa by 35 points, Bardo was asked who has the chance for being a better team and he says Iowa.

As for the previous poster, you have 10 more days before the rest of this blog blows you up. There have been no bid stealers so far but keep on blowing hot air. BTW, Wake Forest another NU victim is a real team on the bubble and not NU. Also, the committee will take into account that UofI beat NU in Evanston that its leading scorer was not able to play.
 

Gladeskat

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Good example of Bardo bias. Before NU-Iowa, he predicts Iowa over NU due to their size. After NU beats Iowa by 35 points, Bardo was asked who has the chance for being a better team and he says Iowa.

As for the previous poster, you have 10 more days before the rest of this blog blows you up. There have been no bid stealers so far but keep on blowing hot air. BTW, Wake Forest another NU victim is a real team on the bubble and not NU. Also, the committee will take into account that UofI beat NU in Evanston that its leading scorer was not able to play.

And Iowa played better than NU down the stretch. They also showed great improvement over their performance against NU, so they became "a better team". Bardo was a refreshing dose of reality in a world of broadcasters who said we were a lock for the tourney after starting 7-2. We were NOT a lock at that time and all the forecasts drove me nuts while we were losing games down the stretch.
 
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And Iowa played better than NU down the stretch. They also showed great improvement over their performance against NU, so they became "a better team". Bardo was a refreshing dose of reality in a world of broadcasters who said we were a lock for the tourney after starting 7-2. We were NOT a lock at that time and all the forecasts drove me nuts while we were losing games down the stretch.

Listened to Jerry Palm this morning and he said the committee stopped looking at recent performance about 10 years ago because there's no solid correlation between tourney and most recent performance. Palm mentioned that MSU really needs to win a game or two. The loss to Northeastern at home and Penn State hurt their chances.

The Illini have indeed played well of late, but the losses to Penn State and Rutgers and a sub-.500 performance in the conference are killers. They need to make a deep run, and it won't be at NU's expense getting in.

Iowa has a similar argument and is over .500, but the state of Nebraska was cruel to the Hawkeyes, especially losing to Omaha at home.
 

JournCat

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And Iowa played better than NU down the stretch. They also showed great improvement over their performance against NU, so they became "a better team". Bardo was a refreshing dose of reality in a world of broadcasters who said we were a lock for the tourney after starting 7-2. We were NOT a lock at that time and all the forecasts drove me nuts while we were losing games down the stretch.

It's like we're not living in a world where prognosticators wanting to fit a popular narrative turned out to be dreadfully wrong. Sorry to veer toward Rant Board territory.
 

willycat

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I agree with Windy City. I have found Bardo to be quite fair for as long as I have listened to him.
Bardo is an bit in love with himself. Had a couple of opportunities to watch and listen to him, while he prepared on the floor interviews. To bad Tim Doyle didn't flatten him.
 

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It's like we're not living in a world where prognosticators wanting to fit a popular narrative turned out to be dreadfully wrong. Sorry to veer toward Rant Board territory.

True. 90-foot passes for baskets with 1.7 seconds left in a game work every time.
 

Sec_112

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Honestly, I hope Illinois makes the tournament. If that means Groce stays another year or two, I'm all for it.
 

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I know. That's why I changed while you were posting He does hate NU. I've felt that for years. What the reason is doesn't really matter.

What I was trying to get at was the intrinsic bias that naturally super-gifted athletes have in terms of only looking at other athletes in terms of their athleticism. When all you have is a hammer, you see everything as a nail. That sort of thing. He looks down on us because we're not as athletic as he and his teammates were. Inherent bias. That's what I wanted to get at. It works the other way, too: the less-gifted, hard working grinders tend to like and admire and respect other hard working grinders.
That is why I prefer screw chisels, crescent hammers and acetylene wrenches. If it can't be fixed with those, it cannot be fixed.
 

D_C_B

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I think he has a very common bias against less athletic teams in how he calls a game. And that would never play well to NU fans. There is some truth to the example given that Bardo (and most other observers) see NU success as largely the failure of our opponent and their success against us as the expected norm. That's not an NU specific or Bardo bias. We just happen to be the less athletic team in nearly all of our conference matchups.

Here's hoping we can turn the tables with our next 5 recruits. If we can get Smith in April and move up the athletic food chain with the 2018 class, Bardo and others will see NU in a much different light. And Collins will be able to add a few years to his life expectancy.

GOUNUII

This sounds familiar... :)
 

D_C_B

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Listened to Jerry Palm this morning and he said the committee stopped looking at recent performance about 10 years ago because there's no solid correlation between tourney and most recent performance. Palm mentioned that MSU really needs to win a game or two. The loss to Northeastern at home and Penn State hurt their chances.

The Illini have indeed played well of late, but the losses to Penn State and Rutgers and a sub-.500 performance in the conference are killers. They need to make a deep run, and it won't be at NU's expense getting in.

Iowa has a similar argument and is over .500, but the state of Nebraska was cruel to the Hawkeyes, especially losing to Omaha at home.


What's their record with both Bridges and Ward on the court? I'd imagine that the committee will take that into account.