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HuskerTimOmaha

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Still a fan, like the young talent on the team, like what's coming in and like everything heard about Gill.
 
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This is a very negative thread. Everyone complaining about scoring needs to go back a few years and relive the scoring threat of the Sadler era. Just as the problems with Husker football, it's all about personnel. Bitching about Shields is not going to help anything. It's going to take more than complaining to change things. You lose a scorer like Petteway and Shields is not going to make up for that loss. We need a big like yesterday. That could make all the difference in the world.

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huskerbaseball13

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This is a very negative thread. Everyone complaining about scoring needs to go back a few years and relive the scoring threat of the Sadler era. Just as the problems with Husker football, it's all about personnel. Bitching about Shields is not going to help anything. It's going to take more than complaining to change things. You lose a scorer like Petteway and Shields is not going to make up for that loss. We need a big like yesterday. That could make all the difference in the world.

I'm N.

No need to go back to the Sadler ERA as we are living it now. Per Kenpom there is not that much difference thus far between our offensive efficiency under Miles vs Sadler. In fact, even with a scorer like Petteway last year our offense was historically bad. I'm afraid the glue guy left and went to South Dakota.
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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Agreed on the young talent and what's coming in. However, I'm now becoming quite concerned about Miles & staff ability to nurture and develop that talent.

You mean like taking a nobody in Petteway, and putting him in a position to get drafted? Miles missed badly on high school recruiting early on and he's paying for it. With that said, we'll find out in a little over a year how he develops young talent. See improvement, something is working. Don't see improvement, your thoughts may be spot on.

As for nurturing, I'm with you, it's frustrating.

All that, plus hoping for maybe a JUCO post guy for next year?

Unless a JUCO blows up here in the next few weeks, an eligible immediately transfer may be a better option. I haven't looked at the JUCO list in a long time though so maybe there's some options left...

There's a couple transfers on the market right now, surprised we haven't pressed for visits and I believe at least one of them could be eligible by conference play next season. ((This was as of a couple weeks ago, maybe he signed with someone already, I'm not sure. He does have marijuana allegations though))
 

BigRedPimp

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You mean like taking a nobody in Petteway, and putting him in a position to get drafted? Miles missed badly on high school recruiting early on and he's paying for it. With that said, we'll find out in a little over a year how he develops young talent. See improvement, something is working. Don't see improvement, your thoughts may be spot on.

As for nurturing, I'm with you, it's frustrating.
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I'm wondering if TP's success wasn't tied more to Craig Smith than Miles. We'll never know on that piece. However, the team's trend with Miles minus Smith is becoming concerning.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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I like the talent Miles has brought in. But, with everything we have to recruit to now, the practice facility, the vault, the B1G. I'm not convinced anyone not named Doc Sadler couldn't have done just as well if not better recruiting-wise, I know people could have done better coaching-wise, we are a poorly coached team. If Miles doesn't win 13 or more this season I say we cut the cord and throw as much money as it takes at Tyronn Lue to get him to come to Lincoln, give him a ton of money for assistants and see what he can do on the recruiting trail. I'm sure being able to say I coached Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Lebron James, Kyrie Irving, and Kevin Love can't hurt.
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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I'm wondering if TP's success wasn't tied more to Craig Smith than Miles. We'll never know on that piece. However, the team's trend with Miles minus Smith is becoming concerning.

Big fan of Craig Smith, upgrade of talent eases his loss, somewhat for me.

throw as much money as it takes at Tyronn Lue to get him to come to Lincoln

He's not leaving Cleveland for Nebraska, not in the near future unless something happens to LBJ.
 

Redscarlet

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It's easy to see Miles misses Craig Smith as his top asst.

12 consecutive losses in conference is becoming a big concern.
 

jeans15

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Guys this is also a basketball conference. Unless you are going to put the majority of our resources to basketball. I would never expect a consistent basketball team here.

Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio St, Michigan, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan St all have been solid basketball programs for years and better than Nebraska in basketball.

The best we should ever hope for is a NCAA tournament run every 4 years with NIT, CBI appearances in between.
 

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Lue will likely be an NBA head coach next year. He has no interest in coaching Nebrasketball.

The perfect fit would have been Dana Altman, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
Here is how to fix the basketball team:
1). Go to the next Kansas game
2). Identify their best assistant coach
3). Hire him
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Here is how to fix the basketball team:
1). Go to the next Kansas game
2). Identify their best assistant coach
3). Hire him

How would this fix anything? Hiring a coach from Kansas does not give us their assets when it comes to basketball. Kansas is successful for a multitude of reasons. The tradition, the money, the lack of a successful football program, the national brand, former players and coaches such as Wilt Chamberlain and Dr. James Naismith, you know the inventor of basketball. Hiring an assistant from Kansas doesn't necessarily fix anything.
 

newAD

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How would this fix anything? Hiring a coach from Kansas does not give us their assets when it comes to basketball. Kansas is successful for a multitude of reasons. The tradition, the money, the lack of a successful football program, the national brand, former players and coaches such as Wilt Chamberlain and Dr. James Naismith, you know the inventor of basketball. Hiring an assistant from Kansas doesn't necessarily fix anything.

Yea and Kansas should hire Turner Gill! Oh wait....
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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No need to go back to the Sadler ERA as we are living it now. Per Kenpom there is not that much difference thus far between our offensive efficiency under Miles vs Sadler. In fact, even with a scorer like Petteway last year our offense was historically bad. I'm afraid the glue guy left and went to South Dakota.

Curious where we are now. As of today, we're the #1 FG shooting team in the B1G.
 

St. Anger

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If he doesn't go 2-1 with @ Rutgers, at home vs Minny, and @ Illini then he needs to have "the talk" with SE.

Remaining schedule:

@Rutgers
Minn
@Illini
@ Sparty Loss
Michigan Loss
@Purdue Loss
Terrapins Loss
Rutgers
@Wisky Loss
Penn St
@ IU Loss
OSU Loss
@ Penn St
Purdue Loss
@ NW Loss

Bro.
 
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Hiring an assistant from KU does come with one thing: They've worked with Bill Self. I don't care if you hate the guy (and I'm fully aware that people do)...you can't deny he understands and excels at getting his teams to play very well fundamentally, and also has an extremely high success rate. If you've paid attention, we've lacked heavily in both of those areas (especially success)...

The irony here is no current KU assistant will likely ever come to Nebraska. Their current assistants realize being an assistant at KU is better than being head coach at majority of any other schools (certainly those outside of the top 30-40 traditional programs). These guys (Norm Roberts, Curtis Townsend) turn down gigs every year, have had decent head coaching gigs in the past, and fully realize their role at KU is pretty great.

For the record Turner got screwed at KU. I'm not saying he was great at his job, just that he should've been given more time. It might not have changed the final outcome in the end tho. He did succeed in one of the best turnaround jobs ever with turned Buffalo (one of, if not the worst football programs in the country) yet didn't even get 2 full years at KU...what do football posters say around here regarding new coaches...PATIENCE (exactly what Gill didn't get).

GBR
 
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Hiring an assistant from KU does come with one thing: They've worked with Bill Self. I don't care if you hate the guy (and I'm fully aware that people do)...you can't deny he understands and excels at getting his teams to play very well fundamentally, and also has an extremely high success rate. If you've paid attention, we've lacked heavily in both of those areas (especially success)...

The irony here is no current KU assistant will likely ever come to Nebraska. Their current assistants realize being an assistant at KU is better than being head coach at majority of any other schools (certainly those outside of the top 30-40 traditional programs). These guys (Norm Roberts, Curtis Townsend) turn down gigs every year, have had decent head coaching gigs in the past, and fully realize their role at KU is pretty great.

For the record Turner got screwed at KU. I'm not saying he was great at his job, just that he should've been given more time. It might not have changed the final outcome in the end tho. He did succeed in one of the best turnaround jobs ever with turned Buffalo (one of, if not the worst football programs in the country) yet didn't even get 2 full years at KU...what do football posters say around here regarding new coaches...PATIENCE (exactly what Gill didn't get).

GBR

Gill got fired when he did because of off-the-field stuff. Not the win-loss record. He had to go.