Batman vs Superman

[UK_Is_Good]

I think it has a Spider-Man 3 vibe to me.

I didn't think so. I didn't get that feeling at all. A lot of the characters are just small cameos, which really weren't necessary to be there other than to say Justice League is coming. They're not bad. I enjoyed them, they just weren't necessary and maybe would have worked better as a post credits scene (which there isn't one).

My biggest issue was with the pacing in the first half of the film. You can tell stuff was cut. There wasn't anything I really disliked, but the scenes just felt a bit disjointed.

It's definitely a film for the hardcore fans which is why I think it will be divisive among the general public. As a Batman fan, I prefer him solo in a more grounded world as opposed to being with super-powered beings, so I'm not going to be as high on it as some fans. I did like it, but acknowledge its flaws. I need to see it again before I feel like I can really rate it. I am excited about a solo Affleck picture, especially if it takes place before BvS as rumors suggest.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Genuinely worried about this one. Never would've dreamed that effing BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN would pale in comparison to a Deadpool movie made out of change found in Fox's couch cushions, but it could very well happen.

 

[-BBH-]

http://www.gamesradar.com/batman-v-...&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_tffb

Early buzz is overwhelmingly positive. Review embargo up later today.

Gal Godot:fire:

 

[Ron Mehico]

http://www.gamesradar.com/batman-v-...&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_tffb

Early buzz is overwhelmingly positive. Review embargo up later today.

Gal Godot:fire:

Thats from "fans attending the NYC premiere". So a theatre full of fanboys hooting and hollering and getting each other riled up while watching. Just not the idea place to get good reviews IMO, just like the initial reviews for Star Wars episode 1.

 

[KingOfBBN]

I haven't seen it but there should have been no cameos whatsoever from anyone else. You wait until a sequel to set up your JL movie. Batman and Superman deserve their own film with no one else in it except for one or two common villains.

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Thats from "fans attending the NYC premiere". So a theatre full of fanboys hooting and hollering and getting each other riled up while watching. Just not the idea place to get good reviews IMO, just like the initial reviews for Star Wars episode 1.

boy for someone who doesn't care you sure care. It almost seems like you're hoping with bated breath that this is a flop. Not sure why you care so much. The Captain America Civil War seems more like Avengers 3 to me. I mean how many more superheroes can they possibly fit into this one?

I'm actually going to go see the movie before giving my opinion instead of basing it on what haters say or on a couple of 30-60 second trailers.

 

[-BBH-]

I don't recall the early buzz for Star Wars EP 1 being anything but lackluster. I remember it very well.

Regardless, the early buzz all over the Internet is positive.

 

[-BBH-]

I don't get the hate. I grew up a comic book fan and love them all. I was more of a DC guy, but enjoy Marvel as well. Just don't see why you can't enjoy both?

 

[UK_Is_Good]

I haven't seen it but there should have been no cameos whatsoever from anyone else. You wait until a sequel to set up your JL movie. Batman and Superman deserve their own film with no one else in it except for one or two common villains.

I totally get where you're coming from. It's tough to talk about without getting super spoilery, but it is Batman and Superman's film in my opinion. Do I think you'd like the movie and it will change your mind? I really don't know, but I don't think the Spider-Man 3 comparison is a fair one (but I do understand why you have that impression).

 

[-BBH-]

I really don't want to hear anything else about cameos or any other details that gives anything away. TIA

Also, I think it's pretty safe to say that UK_Is_Good was going to have issue with any Batman movie that followed up Nolan/Bale's take. If I had to guess his attachment to that trilogy has had a major influence on his initial reaction. Fair to say UK_is_good?

 

[UK_Is_Good]

Also, I think it's pretty safe to say that UK_Is_Good was going to have issue with any Batman movie that followed up Nolan/Bale's take. If I had to guess his attachment to that trilogy has had a major influence on his initial reaction. Fair to say UK_is_good?

Not a whole lot. I like a lot of different interpretations of the character. I grew up on Adam West reruns so those will always have a soft spot for me. I like the Keaton films, but don't care for the Schumacher films. I'm a huge fan of Batman: The Animated Series.

To me, they nailed Batman (and Alfred) in this movie. It's the most comic accurate version we've seen in live action (disregarding West since that's such a different tone). There's one part that some are going to take issue with, but for me, it worked in the context of the film. I loved this take on Batman and the thought of a solo film of Batman going against Leto's Joker really intrigues me.

I feel like the Nolan films are better than this one (it is a bit apples and oranges), but I'm not saying that to put this one down. Like I said, my main issue is with the pacing as opposed to the content.

I apologize if l said anything you didn't want to hear in terms of spoilers. I'm trying to be super vague on that front.

 

[UKwizard]

I prefer Batman alone as well. The Long Halloween is my favorite book and I never really got into the Justice League stuff. I enjoyed Man of Steel for the most part.

I think the most important question is will the rated R version on blueray show Lois's boobs?

 

[-BBH-]

No worries U_I_G just feel like I already know more about this movie than I would like to.

I am a huge Superman fan. Grew up loving the Christopher Reeve films and Superfriends on Saturday morning. Thought Superman Returns was terrible and Man of Steel was a welcome change of pace for me.

As for the people saying DC/WB is copying Marvel? GTFO, comics have had cross overs and team ups since their conception. Batman and Superman was one of the first ones to make it a popular concept. Marvel didn't create this trend. Hell, even Smallville was expanding the DC Universe on TV over a decade ago. Marvel didn't do anything except take it to the big screen first. Kudos to them for having the balls to do it, but let's not act like they created the wheel here.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

Man of Steel was a welcome change of pace for me.

If you liked Man of Steel's Superman, you'll like this. Superman fans who didn't like the darker take in MoS still won't like it here.

And don't worry, there's still a huge surprise or two in store for you. Just be very careful where you lurk the next couple of days.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

It's getting hammered so far on RT (at the time of writing 41% but it's rising a bit), which doesn't surprise me. It reminds me a bit of Watchmen where it was essentially made for the hardcore fans and not with the general movie audience in mind (which is a mistake).

Here's one review from a Batman site that I don't agree with every point on, but I think the gist is pretty fair.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

One of my favorite comics of all time was Batman vs the Predator. damn do I wish they could make that happen in movie form.

 

[WalkersGoggles_rivals310859]

Rotten Tomatoes current rating is 37% :scream::flushed: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

 

[-BBH-]

Not even a third of the reviews in. I expect it to do what MOS still did. However, early audience reviews are good. MOS finished "rotten" but had a Cinemascore of A-.

Right or wrong, Zack Snyder has a very distinct style that turns off some of the press. Some are just not going to give him a favorable review. Period.

#notworried

 

[Ron Mehico]

Right or wrong, Zack Snyder has a very distinct style that turns off some of the press. Some are just not going to give him a favorable review. Period.

#notworried

But you got all excited when you said early reviews are overwhelmingly positive? Are you a lobbyist for whatever movie studio is releasing this? You sound like you're working for a political campaign.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

As far as I can tell, Zack Snyder's "distinct style" is that he makes **** movies.

 

[kramer318]

Best thing about MOS was the score. With Junkie XL assisting Hans Zimmer with this one, I would expect it to sound amazing... But that's about as much praise as I can heap on Zack Snyder's Supe movies.

 

[-BBH-]

But you got all excited when you said early reviews are overwhelmingly positive? Are you a lobbyist for whatever movie studio is releasing this? You sound like you're working for a political campaign.

I said early buzz, not reviews. I care more about what that general audience says because that's more in line of how I'll likely view it.

Not sure why you give a ****?

 

[-BBH-]

Best thing about MOS was the score. With Junkie XL assisting Hans Zimmer with this one, I would expect it to sound amazing... But that's about as much praise as I can heap on Zack Snyder's Supe movies.

To each their own. I love Snyder. His Dawn of the Dead remake was excellent as was Watchmen. Again, people seem to either love or hate him.

Agree on score though, it was excellent. Good workout music. BvS score is on iTunes now. Haven't had a chance to check it out.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

Best thing about MOS was the score. With Junkie XL assisting Hans Zimmer with this one, I would expect it to sound amazing...

I loved the score in this. The new Batman theme will take some getting used to since it's new and there's already so many great Batman themes. The Lex and Wonder Woman themes are solid. The music during the opening sequence with the credits is perfect for the scene.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I just think this movie has looked awful from the beginning, am completely sick of all these comic book movies, and then read that the reviews are pretty terrible and then saw all your fanboy posts and found it entertaining, that's all.

And the reviews by biased fanboys and critics in the beginning for Star Wars Episode I was absolutely positive which you said you disagree with, here's a link to show you how adults can lose their minds.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ction-the-force-awakens-reviews-a6765296.html

 

[Geese Feeder]

Right or wrong, Zack Snyder has a very distinct style that turns off some of the press.

It's wrong. TS.

 

[-BBH-]

I confessed myself as a "fanboy", I grew up reading comics and have fond memories of going to theater as a child and seeing the original Superman films. I also like Snyder, so of course I am excited about it.

Again, you said yourself you thought this movie looked awful and are "completely sick of all these comic book movies". So why are you trolling this thread? We get it, you're not going to see it.

 

[-BBH-]

It's wrong. TS.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Because I plan on single handedly ending this obnoxious comic book movie fad, and am forcing Hollywood to actually make entertaining movies for grown men that are original. And its all going to start in this thread. This is where we put our foot down, and the revolution begins.

 

[-BBH-]

Good luck with that.

 

[-LEK-]

Im a fanboy, so I will like it.I am sure objectively, its garbage. Easy as that.

I like the show Gotham. Its crap, but as a fanboy, its great. I am sure I will like this movie. Seeing it Friday.

 

[-LEK-]

Because I plan on single handedly ending this obnoxious comic book movie fad, and am forcing Hollywood to actually make entertaining movies for grown men that are original. And its all going to start in this thread. This is where we put our foot down, and the revolution begins.

I am a comic book nerd that buys and reads comics. I will gladly hand over my money to watch this movie.

 

[UKwizard]

Because I plan on single handedly ending this obnoxious comic book movie fad, and am forcing Hollywood to actually make entertaining movies for grown men that are original.

Except every original movie these days are a rip off of something that came before it and thus not really original.

Comic movies are great when done right and stick to what made the actual comic noteworthy. Its when they try to be cute or add their own take to it (Fantastic Four) that things derail. Marvel has been on a roll lately with a fun true to the comic movies.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Well, when the words "slog" and "no fun" and "serious" keep showing up in reviews for your GD comic book movie, you have problems. When the people making these things don't get or - even worse - have contempt for the source material, you get a bad product.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Mark my words - they are going to make a Booster Gold or Lobo "Deadpool" knockoff, and it will be AWFUL.

 

[JHB4UK]

like I've said in other movie threads to those who are so insulted by the large number of comic book movies, these are just the modern version of male escapism film. our parents/grandparents watched cowboys & indian movies which inundated the theaters in the 50's & 60's.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

I'll probably still go see this damn thing, but man my expectations are so, so low. It shouldn't be this way. Honestly, I suspect that Suicide Squad will be a vastly superior movie.

 

[Geese Feeder]

It’s because Snyder doesn’t believe in what Superman stands for. He doesn’t believe in the idea that he’s just a guy trying to do right by the world, and that he doesn’t have to learn to do right or be convinced not to quit, that this just is how Superman is. It’s as integral to him as his Kryptonian powers.

Because Snyder can’t understand that aspect of Superman he undermines it at all times. His Superman engages in the bare minimum amount of heroism. We see Batman taking care of more business than Superman, who mostly helps the people closest to him (we also see Bruce Wayne save more people during the Battle of Metropolis than Superman did in Man of Steel). His Superman is an *******, a pompous and condescending jerk who makes threats. Even the scene where Superman might have a chance to deliver a heartfelt explanation of himself in front of a Senate committee hearing is cut short - the film robs Superman of the chance to deliver the sort of speech that belongs in a Frank Capra film.

But Snyder wouldn’t want to have a Capra moment. That **** is old fashioned. How deeply does Snyder think Superman is a relic of the past? He has Perry White all but say so, telling Clark Kent that it isn’t 1938 anymore, that apples don’t cost a nickel anymore, that it’s time to live in the modern world. 1938, of course, was the year Action Comics #1 was published - the first appearance of Superman.

Not that I'm the biggest Superman fan out there, but man alive it sounds like Zacky boy really GETS IT. Sounds like the perfect guy you'd want directing!!

 

[UKwizard]

I'll probably still go see this damn thing, but man my expectations are so, so low. It shouldn't be this way. Honestly, I suspect that Suicide Squad will be a vastly superior movie.

Hell the featurette preview for the actual stand alone Wonder Woman movie made it look better.

Going off of previews alone, I've not read the reviews, their take on Lex looks terrible and I mean in a Fox managed to eff up one of the greatest comic villains of all time 3 times in Dr Doom sort of awful.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

Honestly, I suspect that Suicide Squad will be a vastly superior movie.

I think so too.