Baylor again ducks any P5 foes on OOC football schedule.

[WVUALLEN]

Only one league team – WVU – has two Power 5 teams in the non-conference portion of its schedule. Six Big 12 teams face one, with Kansas’ match-up against Duke, Oklahoma’s contest against Nebraska and Texas’ trip to Arkansas less than stellar features.

Baylor again ducks any P5 foes, but does have a game against BYU, while Oklahoma State has Boise State as a respectable sub for a top-tier conference opponent. Texas Tech features Houston as its best non-conference foe. It’s tough to pick a “best of” out of this assortment, although Iowa State-Northern Iowa, TCU-SMU, Texas-Louisiana and Kansas-Coastal Carolina are all contests featuring worthy Group of 5 foes.

Baylor Schedule
Baylor at Texas State
Texas Southern at Baylor
Baylor at Kansas
Iowa State at Baylor
Baylor at Oklahoma State
West Virginia at Baylor
BYU at Baylor
Texas at Baylor
Baylor at TCU
Oklahoma at Baylor
Baylor at Kansas State
Texas Tech at Baylor

https://collegefootballnews.com/202...e-2021-composite-top-games-to-watch-each-week

We can thank Baylor for the Big 12 being considered weaker than most? Play somebody. Grow a pair and put 2 P5 schools on your schedule along with your FCS sacrifice. Even Kansas is playing Duke.

Big 12 Football Schedule Composite 2021

Each week’s games ranking from most interesting to least.

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 1

Saturday, September 4
Kansas State vs. Stanford (in Arlington)
West Virginia at Maryland
Texas Tech vs. Houston (at NRG Stadium)
Louisiana at Texas
Oklahoma at Tulane
Baylor at Texas State
Northern Iowa at Iowa State
Missouri State at Oklahoma State
South Dakota at Kansas
Duquesne at TCU

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 2

Saturday, September 11
Iowa at Iowa State
Texas at Arkansas
Virginia Tech at West Virginia
California at TCU
Virginia Tech at West Virginia
Tulsa at Oklahoma State
Kansas at Coastal Carolina
Southern Illinois at Kansas State
Stephen F. Austin at Texas Tech
Texas Southern at Baylor
Western Carolina at Oklahoma
Long Island at West Virginia

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 3

Saturday, September 18
Nebraska at Oklahoma
Oklahoma State at Boise State
Baylor at Kansas
Nevada at Kansas State
Rice at Texas
FIU at Texas Tech
Iowa State at UNLV

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 4

Saturday, September 25
West Virginia at Oklahoma
Kansas State at Oklahoma State
Texas Tech at Texas
Iowa State at Baylor
SMU at TCU
Kansas at Duke

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 5

Saturday, October 2
Texas at TCU
Oklahoma at Kansas State
Texas Tech at West Virginia
Baylor at Oklahoma State
Kansas at Iowa State

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 6

Saturday, October 9
Oklahoma vs. Texas (in Dallas)
TCU at Texas Tech
West Virginia at Baylor

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 7

Saturday, October 16
Oklahoma State at Texas
TCU at Oklahoma
Iowa State at Kansas State
BYU at Baylor
Texas Tech at Kansas

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 8

Saturday, October 23
Oklahoma State at Iowa State
West Virginia at TCU
Kansas State at Texas Tech
Oklahoma at Kansas

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 9

Saturday, October 30

Iowa State at West Virginia
TCU at Kansas State
Texas Tech at Oklahoma
Texas at Baylor
Kansas at Oklahoma State

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 10

Saturday, November 6
Texas at Iowa State
Oklahoma State at West Virginia
Baylor at TCU
Kansas State at Kansas

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 11

Saturday, November 13
TCU at Oklahoma State
West Virginia at Kansas State
Iowa State at Texas Tech
Oklahoma at Baylor
Kansas at Texas

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 12

Saturday, November 20
Iowa State at Oklahoma
Texas at West Virginia
Baylor at Kansas State
Oklahoma State at Texas Tech
Kansas at TCU

Big 12 Football Schedule Week 13

Saturday, November 27
Oklahoma at Oklahoma State
Kansas State at Texas
TCU at Iowa State
Texas Tech at Baylor
West Virginia at Kansas

Saturday, December 4
Big 12 Championship Game (in Arlington)

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Baylor really has no need to play huge OOC games right now

 

[WVUALLEN]

Baylor really has no need to play huge OOC games right now

The Bears have no nuts. Grow a pair and play somebody.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

The Bears have no nuts. Grow a pair and play somebody.

They aren't at the point where they are challenging at a national level.

So ultimately the only schools that matter in their world they play.

I guess if they could get a home and home with LSU or A&M they would. But the chance of that happening is very small.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Cost them a shot at making the playoffs not long ago.

They are playing BYU though, which I kind of consider to be a P5 equivalent.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

All schools have reasoning behind their schedules.

As of right now it would be best for Baylor to go 3-0 in OOC than playing "tough OOC competition"

They have had this belief since joining the Big 12.
Because for a long time it was the only games they could win.

Winning games is more important. At the end of the day they will play Texas and Oklahoma every year

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

They have scheduled Utah and Oregon.
Then Auburn.

If anything they can play schools Texas doesn't schedule like Oregon.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/baylor/

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

All schools have reasoning behind their schedules.

As of right now it would be best for Baylor to go 3-0 in OOC than playing "tough OOC competition"

They have had this belief since joining the Big 12.
Because for a long time it was the only games they could win.

Winning games is more important. At the end of the day they will play Texas and Oklahoma every year

So, what? Texas hasn't been nationally relevant since Mack Brown left.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

So, what? Texas hasn't been nationally relevant since Mack Brown left.

Nationally relevant isn't important.
Baylor has to recruit Texas.

Therefore playing schools like Texas and OU is where they will improve their recruiting.

Doesn't matter how people outside of Texas perceive Baylor.
Matters their perception in state and to have the ability to supplement this with Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma

 

[WVUALLEN]

This clown has completely lost what tiny mind it has.

 

[WVUALLEN]

They have scheduled Utah and Oregon.
Then Auburn.

If anything they can play schools Texas doesn't schedule like Oregon.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/baylor/

In the same year?

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

In the same year?

WVU is in a totally different position.

1) They don't have instate talent
2) They can't Recruit Texas

They are disconnected from their recruiting Territory
Therefore they have to play these schools.

WVU needs to drop their dick on some of these schools and establish themselves as an alpha.
Right now they are trying to do so on the football field


Baylor plays the schools they need to for the most part in conference

 

[WVUALLEN]

WVU is in a totally different position.

1) They don't have instate talent
2) They can't Recruit Texas

They are disconnected from their recruiting Territory
Therefore they have to play these schools.

WVU needs to drop their dick on some of these schools and establish themselves as an alpha.
Right now they are trying to do so on the football field


Baylor plays the schools they need to for the most part in conference

That's funny. Seems to be a lot of P5 teams from SEC, ACC, Big 10 and Big 12 hanging around WV for recruits lately. WV may not be a top state for high numbers of recruits but there are many of them here. If not those conference teams wouldn't be sniffing around.

Grow a pair of Balls Baylor and play a real mans schedule. You want top recruits from Texas then go beat somebody.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

That's funny. Seems to be a lot of P5 teams from SEC, ACC, Big 10 and Big 12 hanging around WVU for recruits lately. WV may not be a top state for high numbers of recruits but there are many of them here. If not those conference teams wouldn't be sniffing around.

Grow a pair of Balls Baylor and play a real mans schedule. You want top recruits from Texas then go beat somebody.

Are you now trying to claim WVU can fill their roster with WV talent.

You aren't that stupid. They have to recruit out of state. Mainly their neighboring state.

If WVU was in a conference with these schools they might handle scheduling different
But they aren't.

What is best for WVU isn't best for everyone.

WVU has to play as many schools as they can get in their local recruiting Territory

Hopefully they drop the dick on them. Things can change

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Are you now trying to claim WVU can fill their roster with WV talent.

You aren't that stupid. They have to recruit out of state. Mainly their neighboring state.

If WVU was in a conference with these schools they might handle scheduling different
But they aren't.

What is best for WVU isn't best for everyone.

WVU has to play as many schools as they can get in their local recruiting Territory

Hopefully they drop the dick on them. Things can change

The Coward is afraid to type, "Ohio."

:joy:

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

The Coward is afraid to type, "Ohio."

:joy:

I have no idea if WVU tried to schedule Ohio State
But Ohio State isn't on their schedule

Penn State is

 

[WVUALLEN]

Are you now trying to claim WVU can fill their roster with WV talent.

You aren't that stupid. They have to recruit out of state. Mainly their neighboring state.

If WVU was in a conference with these schools they might handle scheduling different
But they aren't.

What is best for WVU isn't best for everyone.

WVU has to play as many schools as they can get in their local recruiting Territory

Hopefully they drop the dick on them. Things can change

Did I say WVU can fill their roster with WV talent? No. This shows how stupid you are as you're always making assumptions. WVU has lost many a recruit from their own state to the likes of
Pitt
PSU
Ohio State
Tennessee
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Louisville
Florida
FSU
LSU
...and many more.

No place did I say WVU can fill a roster. But your hate for the state is now showing so zip it back up.

Yup WV has no talent in their state at all.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

I have no idea if WVU tried to schedule Ohio State
But Ohio State isn't on their schedule

Penn State is

Neal Brown and Bob Huggins both get more recruits from Ohio than Pennsylvania, and it isn't close. You don't understand the difference between scheduling and recruiting. They are two very different things, and don't always overlap.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Did I say WVU can fill their roster with WV talent? No. This shows how stupid you are as you're always making assumptions. WVU has lost many a recruit from their own state to the likes of
Pitt
PSU
Ohio State
Tennessee
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Louisville
Florida
FSU
LSU
...and many more.

No place did I say WVU can fill a roster. But your hate for the state is now showing so zip it back up.

Yup WV has no talent in their state at all.

WVU has to recruit...

Not enough talent instate.

No one is saying that the state doesn't produce a few players every year.
But not enough to fill a roster

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Neal Brown and Bob Huggins both get more recruits from Ohio than Pennsylvania, and it isn't close. You don't understand the difference between scheduling and recruiting. They are two very different things, and don't always overlap.

DMV is more important.

Because there isn't a single alpha there.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Ohio is the most important state to WVU when it comes to recruiting now, and DMV isn't close. Just look at Rivals' commitment lists for both football and basketball, and stop spewing garbage, which is easily disproven.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Ohio is the most important state to WVU when it comes to recruiting now, and DMV isn't close. Just look at Rivals' commitment lists for both football and basketball, and stop spewing garbage, which is easily disproven.

Even Ohio State has to go out of state to win at a high level....

So if WVU wants to win at a high level it wouldn't be with players from Ohio.

Starts with the DMV.
In both sports the DMV produces more talent than Ohio

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Even Ohio State has to go out of state to win at a high level....

So if WVU wants to win at a high level it wouldn't be with players from Ohio.

Starts with the DMV.
In both sports the DMV produces more talent than Ohio

Add Florida and California together, and they produce more D-1 talent than Texas, but who cares? You keep posting about the pie-in-the-sky delusions that pop up in your empty head. The FACT is that WVU gets more recruits out of Ohio in both basketball and football than any of the other surrounding states, which is where this debate started. The proof is on this site. Look it up.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Add Florida and California together, and they produce more D-1 talent than Texas, but who cares? You keep posting about the pie-in-the-sky delusions that pop up in your empty head. The FACT is that WVU gets more recruits out of Ohio in both basketball and football than any of the other surrounding states, which is where this debate started. The proof is on this site. Look it up.

Where WVU gets their talent from and where they want to get their talent from is two different things

Reason why Ohio has a lot of talent is because Ohio State is recruiting nationally more now
So Iowa St, Kentucky and WVU among others are fighting over the players.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

WVU gets, and wants to get, its talent from the State of Ohio. Of its 16 2021 football commitments, 5 are from Ohio, and only 1 is from DMV. Both 2021 basketball commitments are from Ohio, too. You live in an alternate universe, TrollVanZandt.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

WVU gets, and wants to get, its talent from the State of Ohio. Of its 16 2021 football commitments, 5 are from Ohio, and only 1 is from DMV. Both 2021 basketball commitments are from Ohio, too. You live in an alternate universe, TrollVanZandt.

Still missing the point...

DMV has more talent. You claiming where WVU is getting their players in a certain cycle doesn't prove anything.

You have better players there than you do in Ohio.
A place where WVU has to recruit well to win the Big 12.



The point is WVU has to play other regional P5 schools in OOC
Baylor plays theirs in conference

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

2022 cycle...

The state of Virginia by itself has more Top 300 players according to the 247 composite than Ohio in football...

 

[HSVMountie]

Baylor really has no need to play huge OOC games right now

I like your board name. TVZ was a helluva songwriter. I just read Guy Clark's biography. He and TVZ were two peas in a pod.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I like your board name. TVZ was a helluva songwriter. I just read Guy Clark's biography. He and TVZ were two peas in a pod.

I was having a conversation on Twitter the other day about the best songwriters.
Believe Guy Clark to be as close to Kris Kristofferson as there was in country music

He had an amazing gift to write simple songs but ones that had so much depth to them

 

[Euell]

I was having a conversation on Twitter the other day about the best songwriters.
Believe Guy Clark to be as close to Kris Kristofferson as there was in country music

He had an amazing gift to write simple songs but ones that had so much depth to them

John Prine. Nuff said.

 

[HSVMountie]

I was having a conversation on Twitter the other day about the best songwriters.
Believe Guy Clark to be as close to Kris Kristofferson as there was in country music

He had an amazing gift to write simple songs but ones that had so much depth to them

I can't disagree. "Desparados waiting for a Train" just owns me.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I can't disagree. "Desparados waiting for a Train" just owns me.

Most of us have similar experiences.
Learning a lot about the world from older generations. There was this older guy when I was a kid that told us he was older than Oklahoma. He was born there before it was a state.
I was friends with his grandson who was living with him. Used to take us fishing all the time.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

John Prine. Nuff said.

His first album was unbelievable.
Hard for him to follow that up.

 

[MichiganHerd]

His first album was unbelievable.
Hard for him to follow that up.

Especially since he's been dead for several months now.

 

[HSVMountie]

Short list :
TVZ
Guy Clark
Kris
John Prine
Steve Goodman
Willie
Merle

 

[HSVMountie]

Most of us have similar experiences.
Learning a lot about the world from older generations. There was this older guy when I was a kid that told us he was older than Oklahoma. He was born there before it was a state.
I was friends with his grandson who was living with him. Used to take us fishing all the time.

Beautiful....thanks for sharing.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Especially since he's been dead for several months now.

John Prine helped Blaze Foley reach a wider audience when he recorded Clay Pigeons.

Blaze Foley. Now that is a character.

Supposedly when they went to bury him he had the pawn ticket for TVZ's guitar in his pocket.

 

[WVUALLEN]

What is this? The top 40 billboard or top 40 recruiting? Board has gone nuts and troll TVZ is so easy to sway off topic...

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Still missing the point...

DMV has more talent. You claiming where WVU is getting their players in a certain cycle doesn't prove anything.

You have better players there than you do in Ohio.
A place where WVU has to recruit well to win the Big 12.



The point is WVU has to play other regional P5 schools in OOC
Baylor plays theirs in conference

No, the point continues to sail over your tiny head. WVU relies upon Ohio much more heavily than DMV for its recruits in both football and basketball. It isn't just a "certain cycle," moron. You're detached from reality. Wish in one hand, and **** in the other, then tell me which one fills up first.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Even Ohio State has to go out of state to win at a high level....

So if WVU wants to win at a high level it wouldn't be with players from Ohio.

Starts with the DMV.
In both sports the DMV produces more talent than Ohio

DMV isn't the easiest place to snatch the top talent. You have to have connections to these schools. Programs like Michigan have even tapped into the DMV recently, for both football and basketball talent. St. Francis is a school where Michigan has a decent foot in the door in football, and Dematha in hoops. The top programs find the top players, regardless of where they're located. Recruiting has changed dramatically over the years, but you already know that. If you look at the 2022 DMV talent, particularly the 4 & 5 star players, you'll see that all the top programs are recruiting these kids. Programs relatively close have established solid footprints. Clemson, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, and others. Then you have the local schools who go after the top talent, programs like Penn State, Maryland, Virginia, Va Tech. WV is just in a tough situation, and has to depend on solid evaluation of mainly 3 star talent. The same is true for Michigan, when they're recruiting in Ohio. The Buckeyes are going to dominate the cream of the crop in Ohio, but they normally cannot take them all, so teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, Kentucky, WVU, and others have to fight over the 3-4 star talent.

How did Texas miss out on 2022's #1 recruit in the nation? I thought at one time he was a Longhorn solid, but did they get greedy and recruit another highly touted QB, allowing the #1 overall to slip to Columbus?