BB: Major Corruption in the college game found today.

[theBlues]

But skilled players can do it without making it obvious by looking “inexplicably bad.”

I recall, in that Netflix documentary, Hedake Smith talking about how he did this at Arizona State. He’d do subtle little things that the fans didn’t notice like delaying a pass for a split second so the D could catch up, or feeding teammates in spots where he knows they’re likely to miss, or just taking a step out of position on defense.

At the end of the day, it would look to the fans like Smith had a good game, ASU would still win (but not by point spread), and nobody had any idea that their star point guard was shaving points the whole game.

I havn't watched the documentary. Was it before NIL?

 

[Smeegs]

I havn't watched the documentary. Was it before NIL?

Yes, it was about the ASU game fixing scandal in the 90s. It’s a good watch if you have the time for it.

 

[UKAlum84]

I think the problem is, everybody is just scratching the surface.

I really dont like gambling, purposefully lose your money, and rewards those few who usually dont know the outcome anyways.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

no Power conference schools is sus

You know there are players at bigger schools too, but like I said the people running it target smaller games because it’s less eyeballs on it. Nobody cares if Robert Morris is favored by 10 over Sister Mary’s school for Basket Weaving and they somehow lose by 15 or something because a small group of players rigged the game.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

If Federal authorities took a look at some of the commercial and residential investment properties that certain refs have purchased with cash, they might have some very good questions about where that money came from. The only way these issues get corrected is with investigative journalism and corruption being revealed to the public for what it is.

With the legal online betting market now I believe all refs in every major sport should be required to be audited yearly with a review of their finances and large purchases.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Sports gambling was the worst thing to ever happen to sports. Until it is banned (if ever) there will always be an asterisk on every single game played. I don’t know what is true or fake anymore.

I agree, look at how the NFL is classified now. Sports Entertainment, just like the WWE. You wouldn’t think a legit sports league would need that kind of label.

 

[Colts240]

Been corrupt ever since Vegas been involved, anywhere there’s a dollar to be made there’s a crook somewhere…

 

[UKCowboys]

College basketball players among those charged in point-shaving scheme by FBI

The FBI claims more than 29 games were fixed in 2023-24 and 2024-25. It's one of the biggest gambling conspiracies in American sports history

www.cbssports.com

You know some of these refs are in on this stuff. We have seen way too many crazy things over the years in our games not to be.

The refs are 100% in on it. Certain refs....

 

[Coach Ken Reeves]

 

[notFromhere]

No, I do not think every P5 player is making a couple million. Please don't try to put word in my mouth; if you want to argue against a straw man you don't need me.

Apparently I found one IN you. If you want to over-generalize and cry about it afterwards, that's on you. I called bullsht on your post because it assumed every player that could influence an outcome was making multiple millions of dollars. Don't want a straw man, don't make a straw man.

As I said earlier a player really needs to be a star for his team to fix games because they're the only ones that will stay in the when playing inexplicably bad.

And you are wrong. You don't have to play "bad" to influence an outcome. You don't have to be a star, either. Read an article or have it read to you. The "stars" aren't always the ones that steer outcomes.

If you really think star players making big bucks

Oh, so we're back to straw men and now we're putting words in other people's mouths. Projection much? Lol. You're a real winner. YOU are the ONLY ONE asserting that "star players" are the only ones that can influence games, moron. Go back to licking the dog

will fix games for a small amount more money it says more about your morals than anybody else's morals.

More projection. If you can't bear to be proven wrong, go back to the high chair and have momma feed you some more. Your grade school level reasoning just doesnt cut it.

 

[notFromhere]

But skilled players can do it without making it obvious by looking “inexplicably bad.”

Exactly. I dont get how hat's hard for even the simpleton to undersfand, given its evident in the articles linked and in almost EVERY point shaving or fixing scandal.

I recall, in that Netflix documentary, Hedake Smith talking about how he did this at Arizona State. He’d do subtle little things that the fans didn’t notice like delaying a pass for a split second so the D could catch up, or feeding teammates in spots where he knows they’re likely to miss, or just taking a step out of position on defense.

Exactly.

At the end of the day, it would look to the fans like Smith had a good game, ASU would still win (but not by point spread), and nobody had any idea that their star point guard was shaving points the whole game.

More moronic arguments and projection from "bluebs" any moment....

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Sports gambling was the worst thing to ever happen to sports. Until it is banned (if ever) there will always be an asterisk on every single game played. I don’t know what is true or fake anymore.

Gambling will never be banned. Too much money to be made.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

DePaul is on the list. Dwayne Peavey might has some splaining to do.

They won like 3 games that year right? Makes sense.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

All this stuff coming out the last few years just confirms what we have all suspected for years. No different than folks getting elected to congress and then they become a hall of fame stock trader.

Pelosi’s husband is the greatest stock trader in history. I mean he only had an 18,000% return. That’s nothing.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Are all those schools going to get the death penalty? I mean they have to in this case right?

I think Kentucky should sue to have all those records reinstated.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

But skilled players can do it without making it obvious by looking “inexplicably bad.”

I recall, in that Netflix documentary, Hedake Smith talking about how he did this at Arizona State. He’d do subtle little things that the fans didn’t notice like delaying a pass for a split second so the D could catch up, or feeding teammates in spots where he knows they’re likely to miss, or just taking a step out of position on defense.

At the end of the day, it would look to the fans like Smith had a good game, ASU would still win (but not by point spread), and nobody had any idea that their star point guard was shaving points the whole game.

That’s the thing, I bet a lot of guys could do things like that. Oops I missed that relatively hard layup, I was just late on the switch, I’ll pass it to Mo D for a corner 3….

 

[FLBBNFAN]

Is Mark Pope betting the under on our 1st halfs?

Betting we dont score more than 30 points in the first half seems like a pretty safe bet with our team this year lol.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

You know there are players at bigger schools too, but like I said the people running it target smaller games because it’s less eyeballs on it. Nobody cares if Robert Morris is favored by 10 over Sister Mary’s school for Basket Weaving and they somehow lose by 15 or something because a small group of players rigged the game.

I agree and it would seem doing this at lower level schools would fly under the radar. Obviously someone got pinched and sang like a canary lol.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

Pelosi’s husband is the greatest stock trader in history. I mean he only had an 18,000% return. That’s nothing.

Yeah he is the goat lol. Man so obvious and just business as usual. Amazing that you get elected to congress with no assets and 10-20 years later your worth tens of millions of dollars on a 175k a year salary .

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Yeah he is the goat lol. Man so obvious and just business as usual. Amazing that you get elected to congress with no assets and 10-20 years later your worth tens of millions of dollars on a 175k a year salary .

Like a hundred million plus and nothing happens while the middle class starves. Ridiculous.

 

[KyKevin]

Is Mark Pope betting the under on our 1st halfs?

If he is a Rhodes scholar he is

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

I'm sure not going to say the NCAA isn't corrupt or the FBI either and I'm sure there are a lot of refs taking money to influence games. But to understand why it would be very rare with power five star players you have to be able to imagine yourself in somebody else's shoes. Say you're making a couple million at your school and you'd have to believe you have a potential NBA future. Would you risk a permanent ban from the NBA and throw games for $30k? Anybody would pretty much have to be mentally ill to answer yes...

You would think, but look at Terry Rozier. Made 100M and he risked it to go count 50k to split with his buddies at his house after a game. Bad spending habits and greed lead to stupid decisions. You think like a rational person where that money would change your life, you think like a person with a budget.

 

[Vek96]

This stuff has been going on forever. It’s just a lot easier now to detect.

 

[theBlues]

Apparently I found one IN you. If you want to over-generalize and cry about it afterwards, that's on you. I called bullsht on your post because it assumed every player that could influence an outcome was making multiple millions of dollars. Don't want a straw man, don't make a straw man.




And you are wrong. You don't have to play "bad" to influence an outcome. You don't have to be a star, either. Read an article or have it read to you. The "stars" aren't always the ones that steer outcomes.



Oh, so we're back to straw men and now we're putting words in other people's mouths. Projection much? Lol. You're a real winner. YOU are the ONLY ONE asserting that "star players" are the only ones that can influence games, moron. Go back to licking the dog



More projection. If you can't bear to be proven wrong, go back to the high chair and have momma feed you some more. Your grade school level reasoning just doesnt cut it.

Man, there is no reason for all the insults. You didn't win any arguments; you just made me put you on ignore so I won't see any more of your posts.

 

[TortElvisII]

With the legal online betting market now I believe all refs in every major sport should be required to be audited yearly with a review of their finances and large purchases.

Not unlike me, I used to be addicted to soap, but now, I am clean.

 

[theBlues]

You would think, but look at Terry Rozier. Made 100M and he risked it to go count 50k to split with his buddies at his house after a game. Bad spending habits and greed lead to stupid decisions. You think like a rational person where that money would change your life, you think like a person with a budget.

Yeah, nothing is ever 100%. I've known people so sociopathic that they'd do the wrong thing even when doing the right thing was in their best interests.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

I’m totally for automating refereeing.

 

[Goingfor9]

I think Kentucky should sue to have all those records reinstated.

I think Barney wants the sec or ncaa commissioner position at some point and that’s what he’s gutless to challenge the ncaa.

 

[NociHTTP]

Betting we dont score more than 30 points in the first half seems like a pretty safe bet with our team this year lol.

I think that's about to change. They know who's all-in now.

 

[NociHTTP]

Pelosi’s husband is the greatest stock trader in history. I mean he only had an 18,000% return. That’s nothing.

I wish I knew how to trade stocks. Maybe really cheap ones where you can't lose much money and then segue that into making real money.