Beamer has made a name for himself with those not on this board
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While we're making fantasy arguments (those of us in the real world know Beamer would never have identical results at Vandy)... if Beamer had got us 10 wins in ANY season while our head coach "he would, undoubtedly, be universally touted as one of the best coaches in America and probably would have swept all conference and national coach of the year awards."
Lol. The officials were allowing Goodfella Fatmanito to get away with what other teams had been penalized throughout the year for, and in some cases having allowed the offense to just snap the ball. If that’s what you want to call punked, be my guest. Ashamed to be a gamecock is not particularly admirable in my view.He was punked in the bowl game.
We left nine points on the field, hence the loss.
You're conveniently leaving out that he also acted like a child in front of the whole world.
It's one thing for the program to have middling results. It's quite another to actually aspire for middling results. Yeah, we wouldn't want to F that up would we?
Risk-adjusted returns (ala Sharpe Ratio) consistently has shown that teams with top-10 recruiting classes (e.g. BAMA, UGA, etc.) achieve high win percentages (0.870+) with low variability (yielding high ratios -- e.g., 2.5-3.0).
At the elite schools, "finding the right coach" is more a function of "don't F this up."
We don't have that luxury -- especially in this NIL environment.
The Sellers we saw in that game was not the same player we saw vs. UPC or even against Missouri and certain other opponents. The coaches wanted him to refrain longer from running when the call was a pass. If anything, because of the Sanders factor, he needed to be more unabashed. You'll never convince me that Illinois on a neutral field should have been a loss when UPC in the Valley wasn't.
Not leaving out anything; Beamer’s actions didn’t bother me. I believe the only observers that saw it as childish are those who believed the storied South Carolina program deserved better than the likes of Shane Beamer and will use any opportunity to sniggle like children themselves.
No doubt they game-planned Sellers differently than if he had been playing in the playoffs and that was probably smart.
Again though, I think not having Rocket as a weapon in the backfield was a pretty big deal as well.
Those two played off each other all season and were 80-90% of our offense.
There was little upside to have Sellers running around like a bat out of hell tryiing to earn Cheez-it bowl trophy.
On defense, did any of the 6 who ended up in the NFL draft play in that game?
Good Big Ten teams typically bring strong fundamentals.
They did just that and we didn't have the SEC-level skill players playing in that game to overcome.
Bama got beat in a similar fashion a couple of hours north.
What does this mean Botman? Explain how we are aiming for "middliing results."
Has always been the qbs fault amongst the savvy non-football people. Blake Mitchell. Jake Bentley. Stephen Garcia. Jason Brown. The poor guy from Colorado St that came in here and was pulverized every game; I truly admired that guys toughness. Even Spencer Rattler lol; the only guy tougher than the Colorado st guy. Now it’s Beamer, because apparently we think someone may make fun of us. A stout lot. And savvy.
I would disagree. Spotrscenter covered it. Sports illustrated wrote an article afterwards calling him a meme. Maybe its more than just some posters who hurt your feelings.
Shane Beamer, Bret Bielema's Heated Citrus Bowl Altercation Instantly Became a Meme
Things got spicy in the Citrus Bowl on Tuesday evening.
www.si.com
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I don't give a crap how Bama lost, but how do you think THEIR fans felt about it? I know, you don't care how their fans felt about it, either. You'll have a hard time selling how they game-planned Sellers as "smart". Hayuhl, we had a winnable game to play. All that matters is the game at hand.
I would disagree. Sports illustrated wrote an article afterwards calling him a meme. Maybe its more than just some posters who hurt your feelings.
Shane Beamer, Bret Bielema's Heated Citrus Bowl Altercation Instantly Became a Meme
Things got spicy in the Citrus Bowl on Tuesday evening.
Take off your dress, Lurker. It's going to be OK.
No one remembers/cares about some benign exchange between a couple of college football coaches over half a year ago.
This world found a way to move on.
I just don't think you have Batman running around the field all day when Robin is nowhere to be found.
That's a crappy risk/reward situation.
The better angle would have been to hammer them on defense but we were at half mast.
Someone mentioned being happy with 7 win seasons a damning assessment. You disagreed. And now you're asking for someone to explain how 7 wins is middling? We will continue to observe this soft-shelled skull creature. In the wild.
You and I are in a "never the twain shall meet" situation. I suspect it won't be the last time. I thought then, think now, and will continue to think that the loss was unnecessary and even embarrassing.
Someone mentioned being happy with 7 win seasons a damning assessment. You disagreed. And now you're asking for someone to explain how 7 wins is middling? We will continue to watch this soft-shelled skull creature. In the wild.
You prolly need to go back and read that exchange for mental clarity.
Jacque - Any shot you or Stock could become the de facto BOTs for exchanges? You're definitely one of the sharpest of them all and I typically enjoy your one-line zingers. Or maybe you and Stock? Stock is almost always of good cheer.
I think it's just a sign of the times honestly.
We grew up in an era when teams/players put 100% effort into a game regardless of the circumstances.
Today's game is more about risk analysis/what's best for the team versus fan satisfaction.
But we're all the same person according to you.
I'm in good cheer. I rarely take internet forums all that seriously. You disqualified yourself from intelligent exchanges with "new age" OL schemes lol.
But we're all the same person according to you.
I'm in good cheer. I rarely take internet forums all that seriously. You disqualified yourself from intelligent exchanges with "new age" OL schemes lol.
You certainly are.
Both you and Stock likely reside in Botman's Prefrontal Cortex -- a region of empathy.
BOTs like Lurker (snarky & grudgy) likely reside in the Amygdala borough of his brain.
omg they called it a meme? I didn't know that; I stand corrected. I bet someone tweeted also. Oh the humanity...I would disagree. Spotrscenter covered it. Sports illustrated wrote an article afterwards calling him a meme. Maybe its more than just some posters who hurt your feelings.
Shane Beamer, Bret Bielema's Heated Citrus Bowl Altercation Instantly Became a Meme
Things got spicy in the Citrus Bowl on Tuesday evening.
And continue to be baffled, apparently.Someone mentioned being happy with 7 win seasons a damning assessment. You disagreed. And now you're asking for someone to explain how 7 wins is middling? We will continue to observe this soft-shelled skull creature. In the wild.
Illinois has Brett B as its coach…..their curse has been realized. 125-80 record. His ceiling has been reached and he aint getting better. He’s fat, boring, moves no needle, and is in the Mark Stoops hierarchy of coaching.
We lost in a bowl game…that sucks but these aren’t your daddy’s bowl games these days with opt outs and transfers. The day is coming where players start opting out of playoff games.
We lost in a bowl game…that sucks but these aren’t your daddy’s bowl games these days with opt outs and transfers. The day is coming where players start opting out of playoff games.
"I've fallen flat on my face with performance-based criticisms. Time to pivot to his personality."
That ship has sailed.....the FSU v UGA debacle was clear evidence.
Pretty sad....win the bowl game and then ask who'd we beat? Same with losing....who'd we have xfer/opt out?
Even the final season rankings are skewed...those are not the same teams that played 12 reg season games.
Let's just do away with all postseason games when that happens and go back to the polls.
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Bowl games are only played to make money (tv money almost exclusively) for the bowl and the city hosting the bowl. Unless it is a major bowl, the teams and the schools generally lose money by going. They no longer have any real importance. Even the "extra bowl practices" thing has been made meaningless with the new relaxed restrictions on organized offseason "workouts".
FCS teams nor the NFL have any sort of ridiculous post season exhibition games. If teams in those leagues don't make their respective playoffs, their seasons are over. FBS football should follow their lead.
And the transfer portal. How would extra practices benefit the players who may be transferring before the next season (or those who may be joining from the portal). Without the majority of starters committing to at least 2 seasons, there is no benefit from "extra practices" while preparing for no-name bowl games.
Hasn't been that long ago when it meant something.
Kinda hard to believe that Jadeveon's last game was a bowl game before any NIL $$ was around.
I stubbornly still watch the bowls. Transfers or not, I just still do. As one fanatical watched even the "tiny" bowls, I can agree on the dwindling interest.
I'll watch the Armed Forces Bowl if there's a good match up.
Yes, but you might recall he spared himself somewhat during that last season he played.
Man, I think it's great that you love football that much. I just don't have it in me anymore.