Beamer on the Hot Coach List

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I think he's proven himself in a lot of ways, but he's in a mercurial profession. This team has some questionable deficits going into the fall that are going to have to be closed. Otherwise, Beamer might be on a different kind of list next year this time.
 

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Beamer isn't going anywhere. He's now making, what, 6mill? He's making that kind of cash at his dream job. A job he was waiting for; in the state where his kids were born..... While he wants to be "Shane Beamer" and not "Frank Beamer's son", I think he would prefer to be like his father in that he makes a name for himself, and become synonymous with one school. We are that school. jmho
 

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I actually welcome USC losing a coach because they're so good. Not that I want to see Beamer go by any means, but just once, don't let USC be the job that ended a coach's career.
I appreciate your thinking.

If Shane truly wants to stay in Columbia, I could see him using other schools' interest in him to get pay raises. That too speaks well of us.
 
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
To quote Cindy Lauper. "Money changes everything"
If he starts actually challenging for the SEC $$ will not be an issue. If he ever does leave on his own, it's not going to be for more money. We'll pay him as much or more than anybody else will offer. Dabo won a NC and they gave him a $100M contract.
 
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If he starts actually challenging for the SEC $$ will not be an issue. If he ever does leave on his own, it's not going to be for more money. We'll pay him as much or more than anybody else will offer. Dabo won a NC and they gave him a $100M contract.
Bold words.
 

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Say it ain't so?

Beamer was only an asst coach when we hired him. He'd never been an OC or DC. And we passed on multiple "home run" hires. ;)

Debbie downers be like:

 

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If he starts actually challenging for the SEC $$ will not be an issue. If he ever does leave on his own, it's not going to be for more money. We'll pay him as much or more than anybody else will offer. Dabo won a NC and they gave him a $100M contract.
I'm not as sanguine on that as you are. We would have to be very creative - deferred compensation, stocks of some kind that private companies throw in. No, I don't think we can open the wallet like LSU or the Texas schools can open the wallet.
 

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I'm not as sanguine on that as you are. We would have to be very creative - deferred compensation, stocks of some kind that private companies throw in. No, I don't think we can open the wallet like LSU or the Texas schools can open the wallet.
There are boosters that would LOVE to throw in on a HC that's competing for NCs. These guys are like Linus waiting on the Great Pumpkin. Same thing happened at clem. All those guys needed was a reason to believe. BAM, Dabo's making $11M/yr.
 

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There are boosters that would LOVE to throw in on a HC that's competing for NCs. These guys are like Linus waiting on the Great Pumpkin. Same thing happened at clem. All those guys needed was a reason to believe. BAM, Dabo's making $11M/yr.
Beamer will have to actually win a NC before anyone throws that kind of money at him. I think Dabo was making something like $2.5MM a year before he won the NC. Boosters with that kind of money didn't get that kind of money by throwing it at people or ideas that were "almost great".
 
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Beamer will have to actually win a NC before anyone throws that kind of money at him. I think Dabo was making something like $2.5MM a year before he won the NC. Boosters with that kind of money didn't get that kind of money by throwing it at people or ideas that were "almost great".
Agree with you 100%. Just like Dabo, he'll get paid when he actually does something big. Until then, he'll continue to be paid relative to his output.
 

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Agree with you 100%. Just like Dabo, he'll get paid when he actually does something big. Until then, he'll continue to be paid relative to his output.
If he doesn't win 8 regular season games this season after all the hype in the media he might get some heat he won't like. As good as recruiting has felt, the last class was ranked 16th, about where we have been for a while now. We will get clemson and Tennessee's full attention this year so we won't sneak up on either of them. Georgia in Athens is going to be a tough game and A&M won't be a cakewalk.
 

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If he doesn't win 8 regular season games this season after all the hype in the media he might get some heat he won't like. As good as recruiting has felt, the last class was ranked 16th, about where we have been for a while now. We will get clemson and Tennessee's full attention this year so we won't sneak up on either of them. Georgia in Athens is going to be a tough game and A&M won't be a cakewalk.
I think people are going a little overboard with they hype, IMHO. There are some gaps on the roster that could be problematic. Nobody is really talking about having to replace Smith/Rush. I know Gray has had a really great track record with us so far, so we assume we'll have guys like Dial and Fortune step up. I think DL is still a year away from being good. RB is a bit of a mess. Squeezing 8 wins out of this group will be more impressive than last year.

For me, the recruiting excitement is just beginning. Last year was good, but this class has potential to be our best ever.
 

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I think people are going a little overboard with they hype, IMHO. There are some gaps on the roster that could be problematic. Nobody is really talking about having to replace Smith/Rush. I know Gray has had a really great track record with us so far, so we assume we'll have guys like Dial and Fortune step up. I think DL is still a year away from being good. RB is a bit of a mess. Squeezing 8 wins out of this group will be more impressive than last year.

For me, the recruiting excitement is just beginning. Last year was good, but this class has potential to be our best ever.
 

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There are boosters that would LOVE to throw in on a HC that's competing for NCs. These guys are like Linus waiting on the Great Pumpkin. Same thing happened at clem. All those guys needed was a reason to believe. BAM, Dabo's making $11M/yr.
If so, they have been there for years and gone unheard from, even in the good times. The performance will have to run ahead of the compensation. Right now, we're on a one-game losing streak. We've got to find at least two more wins to get some financial energy going.
 

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I was surprised AD gave SB such a raise so quickly. Didn’t muschamp do as well or better his first two years. Do believe this is a better head coach but to double his salary so quickly…
 

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I was surprised AD gave SB such a raise so quickly. Didn’t muschamp do as well or better his first two years. Do believe this is a better head coach but to double his salary so quickly…
He was making chump change by Power Five standards.
 
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He was making chump change by Power Five standings.
4-4 in SEC play isn't exactly cause for a huge bonus and raise. Vandy was a gimme and UK was missing most of their offense. He was a first year coach who had never even been a coordinator. He was being paid appropriately.

I guess it's easy for Tanner to spend money that isn't really his.
 

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4-4 in SEC play isn't exactly cause for a huge bonus and raise. Vandy was a gimme and UK was missing most of their offense. He was a first year coach who had never even been a coordinator. He was being paid appropriately.

I guess it's easy for Tanner to spend money that isn't really his.
He was a head coach in the SEC; the change was chump. We took advantage of his hunger for a head job in a preeminent league. Might have been one of the few savvy business moves this athletic administration has ever made.
 
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He was a head coach in the SEC; the change was chump. We took advantage of his hunger for a head job in a preeminent league. Might have been one of the few savvy business moves this athletic administration has ever made.
Speaking of savvy, SB wasn’t going anywhere. After two years could have, should have waited before doubling his salary
 

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If so, they have been there for years and gone unheard from, even in the good times. The performance will have to run ahead of the compensation. Right now, we're on a one-game losing streak. We've got to find at least two more wins to get some financial energy going.
There’s really not been much for them to throw down on. 3 good years with HBC when everyone knew this was his last job. That’s about it. JoMo was before money started getting nuts. When is the last time we had a young guy on the upswing of his career be successful?
 

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4-4 in SEC play isn't exactly cause for a huge bonus and raise. Vandy was a gimme and UK was missing most of their offense. He was a first year coach who had never even been a coordinator. He was being paid appropriately.

I guess it's easy for Tanner to spend money that isn't really his.
It is when you consider how many 4-4 SEC seasons we’ve had.
 

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Speaking of savvy, SB wasn’t going anywhere. After two years could have, should have waited before doubling his salary
I don’t think so. It was the right move. He proved himself capable with how he finished the season. I think it’s perfectly fine to have him paid around mid level of the SEC.
 
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Speaking of savvy, SB wasn’t going anywhere. After two years could have, should have waited before doubling his salary
I suppose the wisdom of that move will be established over time - one way or the other.
 

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I think he's proven himself in a lot of ways, but he's in a mercurial profession. This team has some questionable deficits going into the fall that are going to have to be closed. Otherwise, Beamer might be on a different kind of list next year this time.

Yep. Let the offense struggle. Stumble out of the gate to UNC. If the worst case scenario unfolds and we start 1-5 or so, the sentiment will swing the opposite direction.
 
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Yep. Let the offense struggle. Stumble out of the gate to UNC. If the worst case scenario unfolds and we start 1-5 or so, the sentiment will swing the opposite direction.
My question would be - if the offense is struggling and Rattler is having an off day, is Sellers on standby and will he get on the field?
 
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My question would be - if the offense is struggling and Rattler is having an off day, is Sellers on standby and will he get on the field?

I hope so. You can’t keep playing a losing hand. And really, I don’t see it as yanking the QB - sometimes seeing the game from the sideline can help a QB see what they were doing wrong (or see exactly what the defense was doing).
 

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I hope so. You can’t keep playing a losing hand. And really, I don’t see it as yanking the QB - sometimes seeing the game from the sideline can help a QB see what they were doing wrong (or see exactly what the defense was doing).
Some of our best teams used a 2 QB system (i.e. Mitchell/Hold). Never understood going with one guy regardless of how the game is going!
 

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Some of our best teams used a 2 QB system (i.e. Mitchell/Hold). Never understood going with one guy regardless of how the game is going!
The best teams we’ve ever had was with one QB, Shaw. If our D could’ve stopped anybody, that 2014 season could have been special as well with Thompson.
I suspect Sellers is going to play regardless. Especially with the lack of proven RBs.
 

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I suppose the wisdom of that move will be established over time - one way or the other.
Pretty much what The State sportswriters said in April 1971 when USC announced it was leaving the ACC.
 

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The best teams we’ve ever had was with one QB, Shaw. If our D could’ve stopped anybody, that 2014 season could have been special as well with Thompson.
I suspect Sellers is going to play regardless. Especially with the lack of proven RBs.

One way or another, the backup has to play some this year. Rattler took almost every snap last year, out of necessity. There were few games that offered much opportunity for the backups to get in.

But we can't go into 2024 with backups who haven't seen the field.
 
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One way or another, the backup has to play some this year. Rattler took almost every snap last year, out of necessity. There were few games that offered much opportunity for the backups to get in.

But we can't go into 2024 with backups who haven't seen the field.
I agree. And it makes no sense with the new-ish redshirt rules where you can play in 4 games and still RS. Sellers needs to get AT LEAST that amount. I'd also like to see Bailey get some PT as well.
 
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