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mullin17

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How does Ben Johnson and the whole offensive staff not know you cannot hand the ball forward to a OL? They practiced that during the week and no one said "you can't do that?" Can't wait to hear his answer at the presser.
 
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SiuCubFan8

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Williams played well.
I was not expecting the FG attempt and certainly didn’t think Santos was gonna make it.
Jaylen Johnson doesn’t want to tackle.
Odunze with a nice second half.
Too many drops.
A nice win.
Swift had some nice runs, they miss Kyle.
 
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4Afan

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Both QBs played well tonight so this is a good game to compare the two. Maye just looks smoother to me. Caleb is far more athletic, but Maye seems more calm in the pocket and handled the pressure well and either stepped up or side stepped to avoid the rush and found an open receiver.

Caleb got the same results sometimes but puts way too much effort to get there by instinctively running backwards or running in circles in the pocket before throwing it.
 
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Man Williams is good......obviously he still can't scramble the way he wants but he is on point with his throws. Probably 4 drops or his stats would have been even better.

I can't believe Jaylon Johnson is a multimillionaire for his craft.

#13, Thomas, the wasted pick.....he shouldn't be on the field accept for kicks. Play Walker.
 
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4Afan

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McCaravan said:
Man Williams is good......obviously he still can't scramble the way he wants but he is on point with his throws. Probably 4 drops or his stats would have been even better.

I can't believe Jaylon Johnson is a multimillionaire for his craft.

#13, Thomas, the wasted pick.....he shouldn't be on the field accept for kicks. Play Walker.
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Guessing that if walker were better he'd be on the field.
 
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McCaravan

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Kmet going down will be felt. Not season altering but they run a lot of 12 packages and now we are down to Rusch as the 2nd TE unless they find someone off the scrap heap.
 
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pjjp

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PowerI66 said:
Jaylon with two pathetic open field tackling "attempts"
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Stevenson is not great and has been banged up. Muhammad hurt a toe yesterday. If those two guys are healthy enough and Gordon can somehow remain available, the Bears need to seriously consider finding a spot on the bench for JJ. Doesn’t matter what he’s being paid. He’s been awful all year.
 
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4Afan

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pjjp said:
Stevenson is not great and has been banged up. Muhammad hurt a toe yesterday. If those two guys are healthy enough and Gordon can somehow remain available, the Bears need to seriously consider finding a spot on the bench for JJ. Doesn’t matter what he’s being paid. He’s been awful all year.
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If only that were true, but the NFL is first and foremost a business so it will always matter what someone is getting paid, unfortunately.
 
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4Afan

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SiuCubFan8 said:
The QB of the Chicago Bears is playing at an elite level…ya you read that correctly.

Btw, Ben Johnson is a psycho and I’m here for it.
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I stopped following the other thread, can you please define what being elite constitutes these days?
 
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pjjp

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4Afan said:
Both QBs played well tonight so this is a good game to compare the two. Maye just looks smoother to me. Caleb is far more athletic, but Maye seems more calm in the pocket and handled the pressure well and either stepped up or side stepped to avoid the rush and found an open receiver.
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You didn’t mention the terrible interception Maye threw. Caleb taking that sack was a big error, but Maye’s interception in the red zone was the biggest QB error of the game. At the time the Bears were up 13-7, but NE was driving for the go ahead score. The Bears then went down the field and took a 20-7 lead. If not for that complete breakdown by the Bear defense at the end of the half, the Maye interception would have been viewed as the play that changed momentum and lost the game for the Patriots. You simply cannot throw that interception. Maye has been more prone to the big interception than Caleb thus far in their careers.
 
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4Afan

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pjjp said:
You didn’t mention the terrible interception Maye threw. Caleb taking that sack was a big error, but Maye’s interception in the red zone was the biggest QB error of the game. At the time the Bears were up 13-7, but NE was driving for the go ahead score. The Bears then went down the field and took a 20-7 lead. If not for that complete breakdown by the Bear defense at the end of the half, the Maye interception would have been viewed as the play that changed momentum and lost the game for the Patriots. You simply cannot throw that interception. Maye has been more prone to the big interception than Caleb thus far in their careers.
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Interceptions are never good and Maye's was particularly bad, but mistakes like that get magnified in a loss. Santos misses the kick at the end and the Bears end up losing and today everyone would be roasting Caleb for taking the sack and Johnson for not punting it away. Wins make mistakes go away.

None of that changes what I said about Maye looking more comfortable and smoother in the pocket on a regular basis. They're both good at what they do, they just have different skill sets. Right now I see Maye as more of a pure QB and Caleb as more of an athlete.
 
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pjjp

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4Afan said:
Interceptions are never good and Maye's was particularly bad, but mistakes like that get magnified in a loss. Santos misses the kick at the end and the Bears end up losing and today everyone would be roasting Caleb for taking the sack and Johnson for not punting it away. Wins make mistakes go away.

None of that changes what I said about Maye looking more comfortable and smoother in the pocket on a regular basis. They're both good at what they do, they just have different skill sets. Right now I see Maye as more of a pure QB and Caleb as more of an athlete.
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I don’t disagree with most of what you say. What I like about Caleb this year is he’s improved in the areas he needed to work on. He’s more accurate. He’s taking the check downs more often. He’s throwing the ball away when there’s nothing open. All of that tells me he listens and is coachable. I agree both guys are good QBs. It will be interesting to see who has the better career.
 
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Vinnie Salvucci27

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4Afan said:
Interceptions are never good and Maye's was particularly bad, but mistakes like that get magnified in a loss. Santos misses the kick at the end and the Bears end up losing and today everyone would be roasting Caleb for taking the sack and Johnson for not punting it away. Wins make mistakes go away.

None of that changes what I said about Maye looking more comfortable and smoother in the pocket on a regular basis. They're both good at what they do, they just have different skill sets. Right now I see Maye as more of a pure QB and Caleb as more of an athlete.
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Maye isn't making that throw to Odunze on third and long. So SMOOOOOOOOOTH.
 
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4Afan

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Vinnie Salvucci27 said:
Maye isn't making that throw to Odunze on third and long. So SMOOOOOOOOOTH.
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Ok? Not even sure what this is supposed to mean. Just watch any of the highlights, pressure comes and Maye stays calm and steps up or to the side and gets the ball out. Caleb's first instinct is to run backwards or in circles in the pocket and I feel that hurts him when trying to keep his eyes downfield.
 
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pjjp

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4Afan said:
Ok? Not even sure what this is supposed to mean. Just watch any of the highlights, pressure comes and Maye stays calm and steps up or to the side and gets the ball out. Caleb's first instinct is to run backwards or in circles in the pocket and I feel that hurts him when trying to keep his eyes downfield.
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Maye may stay calm, but he also throws a lot more interceptions. They have each started 39 games in their careers. Maye has thrown 29 ints. Caleb has thrown 19. That is a significant difference.
 
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I'll be positive. How great is it to watch the Bears and know our QB always has a chance to make an amazing throw? Multiple 3rd down throws were laughably good. There was a throw on the final drive that was like it was shot out of a friggin cannon. We need to enjoy this for as long as we can.
 
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pjjp

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PowerI66 said:
I'll be positive. How great is it to watch the Bears and know our QB always has a chance to make an amazing throw? Multiple 3rd down throws were laughably good. There was a throw on the final drive that was like it was shot out of a friggin cannon. We need to enjoy this for as long as we can.
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Agreed. I think I appreciated him more after watching the backups play recent games. He has ridiculous talent. It’s just a lot of fun watching a guy that talented play. It’s unprecedented for Bear fans to have a QB like that.
 
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Wassup13_rivals219252

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PowerI66 said:
I'll be positive. How great is it to watch the Bears and know our QB always has a chance to make an amazing throw? Multiple 3rd down throws were laughably good. There was a throw on the final drive that was like it was shot out of a friggin cannon. We need to enjoy this for as long as we can.
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Those were two great teams last night! What a treat! I wonder if there is a chance the two meet in the Super Bowl?

I'd like the Bears to play a 4th RB too with their top two RBs always dinged up.
 
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