Beau
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It was a legit question whether Beau had won the starting job there. No doubt he has it nailed down now. I'm a fan of Allar, and would not have wanted to see him transfer. I think he'll be a long-term NFL player if all goes well. But Beau just lead a historical comeback in his second start. Let's hope Allar breaks through, but his play today will not get it done in 3 weeks. Beau deserves some props.
Historical? Get out of here with that nonsense.
Allar was fine today.
And, no, it wasn't a legit question. Beau isn't in the same league as Drew. If Drew left via the portal he could have named his price at almost any program.
The transparency of this board is ridiculous. Just be honest instead of this nonsense.
Jeez. I suggest he struggled and some of you think I’m out of line. Then the news says he struggled. Then the head coach says he struggled. But it’s not ok to say he struggled? The stats and the game say he did.
He was second string. He got beat out. I doubt a second string QB would get it done unless the first string went down.
You don't have to assume why you think people are acknowledging the good play of former PSU players, and then rail against that assumption.
I liked Beau. I wouldn't have had a problem with him leading our program. I think the team would have done quite well with him at the helm. I like Drew better.
I will root for Beau to do well, unless it directly adversely affects PSU's fortunes. If you don't want to do that, that's obviously perfectly fine, too.
I will argue specific points, however ... like there are certain folks who never liked Beau and will never admit he's doing well - either at all, or they'll attach a bigger "but" to the acknowledgement, so as to mostly negate the admission.
For those purposes, it doesn't really matter to me what they are likely to do in football in the future, once they leave the college ranks. It's understood that the next level looks for certain skills, and that's perfectly fine.
I will also tend to be more critical of Drew, even though I like him more than Beau. Why? Because I see every play of every game he's in, and his success or failure correlates with the success or failure of the team I root for, so I'm more invested in the outcome of everything he does on the field.
Then why are we continually rehashing everything Beau does for Missouri?
So you’re saying that if you watched every play Beau made and you cared about the outcome of the games, you’d find fault with his play? That’s exactly what everyone who’s touting beau’’s phenomenal play should realize.
What are you trying to argue here? You're needlessly combative about this topic.
Yeah, it kinda sorta makes perfect sense that, if his success or failure is directly tied to the team I'm rooting for's success or failure, that I'd be more attentive to what he's doing. And if I were watching every play he made, and doing so more intently, I'd be able to log more criticism (and more educated praise, as well - as appropriate).
But we don't have to do that to acknowledge that he's performing very well at Mizzou. Because he is. It doesn't take anything away from Allar, Franklin, or anyone else.
I think most here DO realize that ... you're just assuming they don't and attacking them for something they haven't actually done.
I'm sure there's a turd in the punch bowl here or there, but, generally speaking, I'm not seeing much of any undue praise heaped on Beau, or undue criticism heaped onto other parties, because of Beau's play.
But many are actually doing that. I just find it laughable that many of our “fans” are better fans for players that left PSU than the ones who are here.
I haven’t seen many (that I can remember) and I don’t have many on ignore.
If one of those folks is Lando, don’t bother with him. He just takes extremist, absolutist positions, usually poorly thought out, and then just restates them no matter what evidence is presented to him thereafter. You could argue with a literal wall and make just as much progress as you would with him. I mean, he once used a data source to support his argument, and when it was pointed out that the data explicitly said the opposite of what he was arguing, he just said he’s sticking with his stance, regardless. His own source disagreed with him, explicitly, and he still didn’t move off his stance.
If one of those folks is a never-Frankliner, who cares what they think? Just mock them and move on. They will not waver, either.
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Actually Lando feels the same way I do and is a better fan of Allar than most posters on here.
You are way out of bounds. For every player who does well elsewhere. I could name 5 who didn't.
The next time posters on here blame the players will be the first….its always the coach’s fault.
They've played 121 times. This is the largest comeback by Mizzou in series history. Historical. Fact. Not saying he's better than Allar. But he played well today.
If you’re aligning yourself with Lando, you’re on your own, chief. Good luck with that.
Btw, I was referring to the Mizzou starting job, which Eli was not just handing to him. Should have been obvious. There was no competition at PSU. But you are looking for anything anyone.says as a slight of Drew. It may be unfair, but I have 5 star expectations for Drew, and 3-4 star expectations for Beau. He met his today, and maybe exceeded. Drew would get a needs improvement relative to expectation, even though we won.
Beau didn't win the job. The other guy was injured gifting it to him in the opener. Hopefully when Beau plays a defense with a pulse he still performs well.
There's no grading on a curve. Their star rating is irrelevant.
And using the term "historical" is trying to make it into something it's not.
Not having Beau and the package he gave us last year will cost us at least 4 games in the Big Ten this year. Having Allar in there in short yardage and goal line situations sucks.
That one 4th down play today near the North Side goal line had a hole open 40 feet wide that Allar could have easily scored on if he had any real jets. Instead he handed it off to the back (I think it was Singleton) and ran him right into the pile.
We can get by with that kind of crap against the Nevadas and the FIUs of the World. Schools like Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, and Iowa are licking their chops.
So you’re predicting 8-4 this year because Beau left? Let’s revisit this post.
I have said often how can a NFL WIDE RECEIVER COACH have such a lackluster wr room in college ball?
I agree for a year or two.... but our wide receivers have been disappointing since Josh Gattis left! When was that.....2019?
Even Drew said he struggled.Jeez. I suggest he struggled and some of you think I’m out of line. Then the news says he struggled. Then the head coach says he struggled. But it’s not ok to say he struggled? The stats and the game say he did.
Bottom line is, he struggled.
But both he and the team did look better in the 2nd half.
Pretty sure Beau started the first half of that game, and did well. The plan was to use the other QB in the 2nd half. He got hurt early and Beau took the reins and ran with them. And yes it was historical, that sometimes happens when something HASN'T happened in 121 years. It's ok to say Beau did well, it really is.
Just a couple thoughts here. Not having Beau is NOT going to cost us 4 games.
As far as Allar running, I'm pretty sure he was told not to after some of the hits he took in the Nevada game. We didn't need him to run on Sat. I think we'll see him running more starting in 2 weeks.
It's not his (Franklins) ability to judge player talent. I question his judgment in recent WR coaches.
The other QB was injured on the second series of the game. The plan wasn't to play him in the second half. Beau didn't separate himself during camp. They were 1A and 1B despite the NIL money
It's disingenuous to try to claim that outcome was historical after he handed them an 8 point lead
Beau played fine against a weak Big XII defense and Central Arkansas. If you want to pretend that's impressive good for you.
He's making a ridiculous, and stupid, argument as per usual. According to him. Unbelievable players like Roethlisberger, Curt Warner, Bret Favre, Josh Allen..... etc., etc., etc... weren't really good college QBs because they didn't put their numbers up against Ranked or good P4 teams every week. What matters is the overall numbers in the games you play. Mizzou is now a ranked team, guarantee Mizzou is happy with their Portal/NIL decision regarding Beau.