Beilein to the Cavs
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Wow, I guess people are ambitious and the money is probably very good, but Beilein is such a good coach at the college level and he's what, 60-some years old? Pretty late in life to start dealing with NBA prima donnas, but different strokes for different folks.
If the two Democratic front runners for president are over 70, running against an over-70 Republican, surely a 66-year-old basketball coach can lead the Cavs
Tough loss for the B1G. Beilein seemed like a truly good guy in a profession where those sometimes seem to be few and far between. Michigan is also losing a boatload of talent this year, and likely more with Beilein leaving. It will be interesting to see where they go from here. Do they elevate a Beilein assistant for continuity, or do they go for a big name? They've certainly got the cash to make a big splash.
Who knows, maybe Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan would take the call after the playoff flame-outs they had. Both the Celtics and the Thunder are another bad year away from potentially making their coach the fall guy.
I don't know enough to give you names, but there's no reason it has to be a mid-major. Michigan is a perennial final four contender, and they have more money than they know what to do with. If Kansas can bigfoot a guy like Bill Self away from Illinois, there's no reason Michigan wouldn't go after Chris Beard or some other successful Power Five coach.
If we had been better the last 2 years this is totally a program I could see that would come after CCC. Not happening so I dont know why I even mentioned it
He’s 66 years old. My guess is that the NBA is the last challenge out there for him. He’s been a big winner in college; it’s time to see what he can do at the highest level. Plus, recruiting has gotta be a strain at that age. He just lost a lot of talent at Michigan, so he has to start over again.
Thing is, he may have had more talent at Michigan than he will in Cleveland.
Wow. NOt that many college coaches do well at the next level as they lose their biggest advantage, the ability to recruit. Seems like a questionable move as he had built a pretty nice program
On the one hand, I'm celebrating. On the other hand, it's too bad.
Beilein is such a good coach that I don't know how this can't be good for NU. I'd be surprised to see anybody do better than he did. Tommy Amaker, Brian Ellerbe and NCAA sanctions weren't that long ago.
But Belein is such a good guy. It's hard not to enjoy how he went about his business.
However, to me, he SCREAMS a college-entrenched coach who will absolutely bomb having to deal with NBA personalities, especially at 66 years old.
Dana O'Neil in the Athletic says this is more about the college game than anything else. She quotes an anonymous college coach, "When John Beilein goes to the NBA, it tells you how f'd (The Athletic used the full word. Rivals wouldn't let me) up college basketball is."
Beilein is such a good coach that I don't know how this can't be good for NU. I'd be surprised to see anybody do better than he did. Tommy Amaker, Brian Ellerbe and NCAA sanctions weren't that long ago.
But Belein is such a good guy. It's hard not to enjoy how he went about his business.
However, to me, he SCREAMS a college-entrenched coach who will absolutely bomb having to deal with NBA personalities, especially at 66 years old.
Dana O'Neil in the Athletic says this is more about the college game than anything else. She quotes an anonymous college coach, "When John Beilein goes to the NBA, it tells you how f'd (The Athletic used the full word. Rivals wouldn't let me) up college basketball is."
And I can point to plenty that bombed including a couple guys that were HC for the BULLS. Just saying that so much of what makes a top coach in the NCAA is how well they and their staff recruit. When that is taken out of their quiver......
Well here is one guy who disagrees with me
https://watchstadium.com/news/searc...higans-next-head-basketball-coach-05-13-2019/
I'll be 72 this year, and I support a mandatory retirement age of 75 (and I wouldn't argue with sooner) for any government position including president, senator, representative, Supreme Court justice and all others. Term limits should also be a consideration. I'm sure you can find people in their 70's who are as sharp as they were 30 years ago, but not many in my experience. Trump seems at times to be either senile or demented, and I'm not too sure about Biden, either. Bernie is just old and ornery. As for Beilein, it just seems odd that after a lengthy and successful career in college ball he decided at 66 that the NBA was where he wanted to land. He's a good man, but his strength as a BB coach is his teaching ability, and I wonder how many of these NBA wunderkinds will actually listen to him. I guess we'll find out.
I think there's a lot of truth to this. With the massive number of transfers as well as early departures to the NBA, I can imagine a lot of college coaches getting fed up with the challenges of roster turnover, planning scholarships and developing players and teams.
That’s an eyebrow-raising pick from Goodman. Thing is, I don’t think Collins would leave for Michigan.
On the one hand, it is a top 15 hoops job.
On the other, he'd have no chance to build his own legacy.
I doubt Michigan would be interested in him. Brey seems much more likely.
I don’t think Brey would take it, either, to be honest. He’s got it pretty cushy at ND.
For Collins, he’s a Chicago guy with a young family and NU just built him a beautiful arena and will open the practice facility soon. Just not the right time.
After 6 years, the one negative that might steer him away is the higher academic bar for recruits (if that is real and not an internet message board creation).
It’s real, but I don’t think that will be a factor. He comes from Duke and knew fully well what he was getting into at NU. He also knows that if he has a couple subpar seasons at Michigan he’ll be out of a job. Plus, former Dookie Tommy Amaker had a rough tenure in Ann Arbor.
I think that Duke's standards are miles away from those at NU. Yes, he knew what he was getting into. But as competitive as he is, he must hate losing when the deck is stacked against him.
I gotta say the name floating out there for a replacement that makes the most REALISTIC sense might be Tom Crean. Especially at this late date.
He wasnt horrible at all at Indiana - 9 years, 3 Sweet Sixteens, 2 B10 championships after inheriting a trainwreck that killed his first two years.
After Donovan etc turned me down, he might be among my finalists.
I wouldn't love the guy if I was a Michigan fan, but at least he's proven.
The other guy I'd want to get a feel for is whether Chris Mack really wants to sit through NCAA sanctions.
Hopefully Michigan is crazy enough to choose Juwan Howard or the former ISU assistant now on their bench.
He wasnt horrible at all at Indiana - 9 years, 3 Sweet Sixteens, 2 B10 championships after inheriting a trainwreck that killed his first two years.
After Donovan etc turned me down, he might be among my finalists.
I wouldn't love the guy if I was a Michigan fan, but at least he's proven.
The other guy I'd want to get a feel for is whether Chris Mack really wants to sit through NCAA sanctions.
Hopefully Michigan is crazy enough to choose Juwan Howard or the former ISU assistant now on their bench.