There's no more to be said. Only the most obtuse don't get it.
Financial success is a pretty important metric also, and going to become more so. Competing is going to become way more expensive than it already is. You've got to squeeze every dime you can from every source you can. These gaps in income between schools in different conferences are realized every-------single-------year.
Hard to imagine that if a school who has had much success with most of it's athletic squads, will now receive an infusion of funds almost twice what is currently working with would not be able to continue and expand upon it's current state of affairs.
I guess you are assuming everything else about Carolina football remained the same.
It's very hypothetical, of course, but if we were still in the ACC, I believe we'd have at least 11 conference championships. Our basketball program would possibly be elite.
Basketball took a huge and almost immediate hit when we left the ACC.
Assuming that this is football only, no telling how many championships we would have in other sports,
I think all sports depend on football for revenue support. At some schoold basketball can cover its expenses but track and baseball and soccer and everything else feeds off of football. I think then that you mean Clemson is underfunding other sports. They dropped some mens sports a few years ago for financial reasons but I don;t recall which ones. Long ago they dropped wrestling for financial reasons.
My understanding is that traditionally, USC is one of very few schools where baseball covers their expenses.
We - the fans aren’t. But the people running the place…seems they have been for a very long time. Get SEC benefits with little football contribution and fans pack Willy B every fall to watch 5-6 wins.
Right. It's not about winning. It's about money.
Title IX was the major reason a lot of schools dropped men's sports.
I asked some Tiger fans, they added softball, rowing, and soccer as women's sports in the last 20 yrs. More recently women's golf, gymnastics, and women's lacrosse. They dropped mens cross country (maybe they started to then back tracked) and women's diving. Years ago they dropped all swimming and men's diving and wrestling. Women's golf was added because the infrastructure was already in place and LSU won a national championship with a girl from Seneca who said she would have preferred to play at Clemson but they didn't have a women's team. That is kinda embarassing.
Yes and Clemson is already saying the 20.5 million will all go to football. I see it hard for us to accomplish that. Something tells me dawn is going to want a cut.
Clearly that’s why those teams are suing to get out lol. Them being happy with the ACC is a stupid garnet colored glasses take by our fans. Both those teams would bolt if given the chance today.
It's not just those 2 teams looking for an exit strategy, it just so happens that those are the 2 most vocal
I agree. I was just pointing out how comical it is for people to say they don’t want out. Truth is the ACC is not that big of an advantage. Less money and you only have a direct path if there are AQ’s. See fsu last year. That would have never happened to any sec school. See Georgia this year.
Is the margin for error less, though? Clemson just won the ACC as a 3 loss team and slipped into the playoff. While the conversation was around 3 loss SEC teams to make the playoff, none of them did.
Yes one is a champion one is being talked about with out a championship. Clemson wouldn’t even be in the discussion if they had not won. That is an advantage.
And this Clemson team wouldn't have been anywhere close to the championship game in the SEC. That's an advantage for them...a clearly inferior team to at least the top half of the SEC is in the playoff because of their conference.
We will just have to agree to disagree. I feel the advantages of playing in the sec out-way the advantages in the acc when including everything. Things like schedule, money, exposure, espn and talking heads building up the sec.
Oh yeah, for sure. I agree there.
