Best roster since…?

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I mean look at the depth in Jo particular order

PG- Lowe/aberdeen/perry/chandler/johnson
SG- Aberdeen/oweh/chandler/kam/johnson
SF- Oweh/aberdeen/kam/noah
PF- Diaboute/jq/jelavic
C- bg/jq/mm
 

EliteBlue

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Deepest since 2015 and most talented since 2017
This is probably right considering known results of the past years and combined expectations of this season + a compete roster that’s deep and interchangeable.

But I think you could make a case for 2019 (great reg season and E8 finish) and Cal’s last year from a preseason standpoint before they ultimately failed in the post season. Not depth, but top 6-7.
 

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Hard not to like the individual pieces. But like last year, will wait and see how these disparate pieces come together as a team. On paper there is a lot to love about this roster but I try and stay grounded and not get to high or low. Especially out of the gate.

I’ll say it again, I trust in Pope and I’m confident that this team will grow into a formidable contender. Will have to give them time to grow together.
 

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I am sure that I see one of these threads a year….i get being excited, but until this team plays a game, anything we think they will do is speculation. I’m bullish on this team and believe that if they gel the way we need them to, that we are going to be a favorite at the end of the year. I’m not going to put it in the record books just yet though.
 

megablue

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It seems to me this is the best roster pre season in many years, certainly 2015 was better.

Not sure there’s a clear better pre season roster since. Any thoughts?
I agree that our roster looks very strong.
How many do folks think will eventually make NBA rosters ???
 

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I agree that our roster looks very strong.
How many do folks think will eventually make NBA rosters ???
Hard to know. JQ and JJ look like can’t miss NBA players barring injury.

Others have promise. I love to see UK players in the NBA. But I’m more interested in them being great in college.

Look at Johni Broome. He May or may not have an NBA career. But he was terrific in college.
 
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Now with Kasean Pryor coming back we don't even have the best roster in the state
 
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Hard not to like the individual pieces. But like last year, will wait and see how these disparate pieces come together as a team. On paper there is a lot to love about this roster but I try and stay grounded and not get to high or low. Especially out of the gate.

I’ll say it again, I trust in Pope and I’m confident that this team will grow into a formidable contender. Will have to give them time to grow together.
Seems like every program has it least part of their roster that is going to be new, so we won't have the only group that will need time to grow.
 

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Honestly we don’t know. I’m not a Debbie downer and I am excited. But this is always a hard question to answer in April. People always sleep on Cal’s last year. That was a damn good roster. If this group can match that one ill be happy
What am I not understanding? You want this team to match cow’s last year which was a huge disappointment?
 
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Some good points. Fascinating to me reviewing those teams how impossible it feels to compare, this is just such a fundamentally different roster build and approach to winning.

No doubt we have less NBA talent than some of those teams, but who’s worth more, lottery pick Tyler hero or maybe second round pick to late first Oweh (assuming he progresses)?

SGA doesn’t apply for much as he didn’t at all resemble who he is now in college. He was good but no one saw this coming.

Anyways interesting exercise. Reviewing those teams does nothing but me more glad we are done with Cal era.
Right. Which is why I always thought the focus on “talent” under Cal was misplaced - whether in praise of his recruiting or in criticism of his underachieving. Talent that realizes itself years later doesn’t really do a college team much good when you only have them for a year. It’s why Duke, with Cooper and Zion and Tatum, didn’t do a lot……..
 

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Hard to know. JQ and JJ look like can’t miss NBA players barring injury.

Others have promise. I love to see UK players in the NBA. But I’m more interested in them being great in college.

Look at Johni Broome. He May or may not have an NBA career. But he was terrific in college.
Great post.

Having future NBA talent doesn't mean crap, unless you get a Flagg, AD, Towns, Ranfle, Wall, Zion, or Fox. Those guys were special when they were in college, but those guys are extremely rare.

The teams that are doing all the winning in college, are teams built out of seasoned college players and some of those guys play so well, they eventually find their way onto NBA rosters (Walter Clayton).

It would be different if that NBA talent actually played in the NBA before coming to UK, but the truth is, 95% of these future NBA talents are just damn good high school kids that will eventually be good enough to play in the NBA, but they are rarely good enough to carry college teams to titles.
 

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I think we can possibly be a solid team though I would have loved to have had more shooters. This should be Pope’s best defensive team he has ever coached and most athletic. I don’t think we can really compare this team to past teams until they play.
 
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Rockfly78

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What am I not understanding? You want this team to match cow’s last year which was a huge disappointment?
No. Good grief. Where did you get that? I thought that was a really good roster. Cal fumbled the post season. Don’t you think pope could win with that roster? I do
 
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It’s a great roster no doubt but the glaring hole at SG sticks out like a sore thumb.

Many on here underrate last years roster. I could see next years team not performing as well as this past years team. The drop off in shooting is a major concern. Wiffing on every major target at SG will cost us game. We had to have one of Yates/Wilkerson/Pierre and we stuck out.

The two major keys to Pope’s offense is shooting the 3 and your big man initiating the offense at the top of the key. We have neither of those things with this roster.

I agree that our roster looks very strong.
How many do folks think will eventually make NBA rosters ???
Lowe - maybe
aberdeen - cap of coffee to role player
perry - no
chandler - maybe
johnson - legit career
oweh - cup of coffee to solid role player
kam - maybe
noah - no
Diab: maybe
jelavic: maybe
bg- maybe
jq - legit career
Mm - maybe

My estimation is 4 with 7 maybe guys. I’d guess half those maybes have a career (we’ll call this 3 years or more). So I’m guess 7-8 with low end of 4-5

That’s pretty solid. 2 guys JQ and JJ who could develop into big contract guys
 
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It’s a great roster no doubt but the glaring hole at SG sticks out like a sore thumb.

Many on here underrate last years roster. I could see next years team not performing as well as this past years team. The drop off in shooting is a major concern. Wiffing on every major target at SG will cost us game. We had to have one of Yates/Wilkerson/Pierre and we stuck out.

The two major keys to Pope’s offense is shooting the 3 and your big man initiating the offense at the top of the key. We have neither of those things with this roster.
Brea: 83 - 43.5
JR: 62 - 37.6

Kam: 63 - 41.2

Johnson chandler and Aberdeen also likely to get significant PT all capable to good shooters.

Oweh is also capable, and if he has any chance at getting nba run will spend his whole off season shooting threes.

To say we can’t shoot seems silly. This will be one of the best shooting teams we’ve had in years. We may not have an absolute dead eye, although as you can see Kam was not far off brea last year. But we have a lot of shooting.
 
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I think it will be the deepest in the last 5 years. Other teams had more individual talented players, but this roster is balanced with guys that can play D-1 ball. 2 former SEC players, one a National Champion.
 

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I'm still convinced we have one more stud transfer incoming for next year. Maybe two.
 
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USMC Cat_rivals309254

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Some good points. Fascinating to me reviewing those teams how impossible it feels to compare, this is just such a fundamentally different roster build and approach to winning.

No doubt we have less NBA talent than some of those teams, but who’s worth more, lottery pick Tyler hero or maybe second round pick to late first Oweh (assuming he progresses)?

SGA doesn’t apply for much as he didn’t at all resemble who he is now in college. He was good but no one saw this coming.

Anyways interesting exercise. Reviewing those teams does nothing but me more glad we are done with Cal era.
There was a lot of that at UK under Cal.

Remember when Julius Randle spent an entire season only going left?
 

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Not a chance


It's very hard to have a roster this deep in today's portal world.

We are not adding another stud, we already have 10 of them.


Who's going to want to sit?
 

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There was a lot of that at UK under Cal.

Remember when Julius Randle spent an entire season only going left?
Well, that’s still the knock on Randle today by the talking heads covering the NBA.

Seems unfair. But they need something to talk about.
 

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No. Good grief. Where did you get that? I thought that was a really good roster. Cal fumbled the post season. Don’t you think pope could win with that roster? I do
Just didn’t understand, was asking for clarification. I think Pope would have done great then and will next year too.
 
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That team had NO front court to speak of.

Mitchell was a shell of himself after mid-December, and the production from the 5 spot was abysmal.

Wagner, Edwards and Bradshaw were massive disappointments compared to preseason expectations.

That team was CARRIED by the consistency of Antonio Reeves and the star power of Sheppard/Dillingham, but that's really all we had going for us if we are being honest.

And it showed in March.

And in the regular season when they became the first team in Kentucky history to lose 3 straight games in Rupp.
He said if we can match 2024 he will be happy
Our team this year matched 2024
 

Rockfly78

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He said if we can match 2024 he will be happy
Our team this year matched 2024
To be clear, I was really high on that 2024 roster with Reed, rob and AR. I felt like it was an elite 8 roster. We all know how it ended for them though. I was trying to say if we could put a squad on the floor with the talent of that 2024 roster I'd be happy. I very much preffered the 2024 roster to the 2025 roster personally. different strokes for different folks. Pope would have killed it with the 2024 squad.
 
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To be clear, I was really high on that 2024 roster with Reed, rob and AR. I felt like it was an elite 8 roster. We all know how it ended for them though. I was trying to say if we could put a squad on the floor with the talent of that 2024 roster I'd be happy. I very much preffered the 2024 roster to the 2025 roster personally. different strokes for different folks. Pope would have killed it with the 2024 squad.

Well yeah but the 2025 roster was built in 3 weeks with a new staff at a new program, so of course it wasn't going to be the same.

This year's roster is so much more well-rounded and deeper than the 2024 team, not even close, with way more college-level talent!

We have guards who can be as good or even better than Reed & Rob at the college level, especially on the defensive end, and we do have a guard who can be as consistent and impactful as Reeves (Oweh).

But besides those 3 on the 2024 team, there wasn't much to write home about.

This team has 9-10 guys who can be really, really impactful at this level, and depth and versatility all around.

Not to mention, this team will be on a different stratosphere in terms of defensive ability. 2024 couldn't guard a house plant.

This team could (in theory) deploy a lineup of:

Aberdeen
Oweh
Kam Williams/Chandler
Dioubate
Jayden Quaintance

And the opposing team may not be able to score a point. Not to mention Lowe is a decent defender, same with Garrison, Collin Chandler, etc.

This year's team is going to be a BEAST defensively, that is probably what I am most excited about.
 

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We have an interesting roster. Today given now knowing our roster is set and hearing the nil numbers I have to ask where are the shooters? Especially at 2 guard? I hope the answer is clear in Johnson or chandler but it’s still a question mark. Aberdeen is a solid player to offset Lewis decomitt. But we never filled the shooter role at the 2 guard. It’s gonna be Johnson or chandler OR Oweh with kam Williams at the 3 if we need to get a money shooter on the floor based on stats.
 

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This past season was a very flawed roster.

But cobbled together along with a coaching staff in a month it was incredible.

Context does matter.

Even flawed if we had been injury free we are most likely celebrating at least a FF.

Now we will see how Pope builds a team when he has time and resources.

Things look very promising.

🏀
 

Rockfly78

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Well yeah but the 2025 roster was built in 3 weeks with a new staff at a new program, so of course it wasn't going to be the same.

This year's roster is so much more well-rounded and deeper than the 2024 team, not even close, with way more college-level talent!

We have guards who can be as good or even better than Reed & Rob at the college level, especially on the defensive end, and we do have a guard who can be as consistent and impactful as Reeves (Oweh).

But besides those 3 on the 2024 team, there wasn't much to write home about.

This team has 9-10 guys who can be really, really impactful at this level, and depth and versatility all around.

Not to mention, this team will be on a different stratosphere in terms of defensive ability. 2024 couldn't guard a house plant.

This team could (in theory) deploy a lineup of:

Aberdeen
Oweh
Kam Williams/Chandler
Dioubate
Jayden Quaintance

And the opposing team may not be able to score a point. Not to mention Lowe is a decent defender, same with Garrison, Collin Chandler, etc.

This year's team is going to be a BEAST defensively, that is probably what I am most excited about.
I'm excited. We look to have a well constructed roster