Bill Gates is getting more aggressive with his synthetic beef push. But, don’t worry, he says the plan is to make it taste even better than it currently does.
Better stock up on beef now
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I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I definitely plan to heed Bill Gates' advice on, literally, every aspect of my life, including but not limited to what I put on my dinner plate. I mean, he's a multi-billionaire, so by definition, he has to be way smarter than me and have only my best interest in mind.
My wife does not eat red meat, and thus, we've gone through most veggie burger varieties, e.g., Morningstar Farms, Boca, Lightlife, Dr. Prager's, Aldi's private label, Gardein, etc. The Impossible Burger is a cut above (pun somewhat intended) the aforementioned, but we find that we like Beyond Beef the best of them all presently on the market. Not quite major league, but the best AAA all-star team you can put together. Impossible Burger is like the AAA world series champ. Everyone else is average AA at best.
Give me beef or give me death!
I don’t know why anyone cares what he thinks about anything besides Microsoft programs . For some reason he’s treated as an expert on vaccines, global warming, world hunger and a host of other issues.
Why are folks so determined to post these types of threads on a sports-related board?
Same thing happened on the old FGF and it was ridiculous then as well.
Same thing happened on the old FGF and it was ridiculous then as well.
Because he started a foundation in 2000 to address many problems facing society and staffed it with experts who work on those issues and report their ideas and conclusions to him.
Similar to how Jimmy Carter became an authority on eradicating certain diseases and securing elections around the world after he was President.
The world has a lot of problems that won't be solved if profit is the only motive.
Well I mean, I can tout anyone to be an expert on anything. That doesn’t make it true. Bill gates is a brilliantly guy, I’m not ready to call his appointed people experts. It just don’t work that way. We can agreeably disagree about the word experts.
He was a multibillionaire way before he ever came up with this $**t. Even Buffett has bought a few dogs in his time.
I still don't understand why some get into such a tizzy when subjects like this come up.
I hope some don't hurt themselves when they fall back on their fainting couch.
I hope some don't hurt themselves when they fall back on their fainting couch.
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IF scientists can make synthetic beef taste like real beef, but make it healthier, then count me in. IF...
The only question for me is why Bill Gates is consistently referenced by the media as an authority on this topic and many others. He's just a person with an opinion. He's really just a grown-up Greta Thunberg.
Also, I think it's funny that he says rich countries need to eat synthetic beef while the poor countries should get real beef. Why not the other way around? If the synthetic stuff is so good, let's be kind and give it to the poorer countries.
I've never had any of those types of beef "surrogates". But, who knows? May be in my future I'll try it for myself.
Both will happen - beef for you, death for the animal. This is not that hunting thread regurgitated (another bad pun), and I am not going there. Not expressing an opinion - just objectively stating facts.
Plants die, too.
This came up on the old board, and the one aspect I found annoying was Gates admitting that synthetic beef would basically be for the masses, and real beef would just be rarer, and more expensive. Meaning he would still be eating real meat, only the "little people" should eat the fake stuff.
I personally don't object to a beef burger now and again, but if find that Beyond Beef is easier on my digestive tract. For us, Beyond is worth the tradeoff.
Well, that's typically how it goes, right? The elite lecture the masses about carbon emissions and the need to make sacrifices, while they live in mansions and fly private jets. They say to restrict gun rights while they have armed security.
I can't think of one elite who leads by example.
Surrogate is a good term. Perhaps the time you'll try it is when you are with someone who doesn't eat red meat and you're cooking burgers - make an extra for you to try.
I still have to have a steak, or real burger, every once in a while - it's just too good. But have always stayed away from red meat most weeks as it's just horrible for you.
I started using these substitutes years ago and they definitely get the job done and keep beef cravings away. For sure with the Gardein beef crumbles. You put that in pasta sauce or chili, and you'd never know the difference. Ever. Also does well in tacos. Plant based meatballs are also solid. The rest of the stuff (chicken, burgers, sausage) is good enough, but not an equal substitute. My health thanks me for it though.
I started using these substitutes years ago and they definitely get the job done and keep beef cravings away. For sure with the Gardein beef crumbles. You put that in pasta sauce or chili, and you'd never know the difference. Ever. Also does well in tacos. Plant based meatballs are also solid. The rest of the stuff (chicken, burgers, sausage) is good enough, but not an equal substitute. My health thanks me for it though.
In school you probably did. We always had soy burgers. My grandfather grew soy beans for market and also feed corn for his beef cattle.
I remember the soy burgers at school. I also remember we didn't like them.
I've got no problem if people make the individual choice to eat fake meat. I have a huge problem with people suggesting it should be mandated for all of us.
LOL. We didn't like any of the food they had then, except those square pizzas we got every Friday. I was shocked at the selections and quality of food that my daughters got in school.
The soy burgers stretched the meat so thinly to make them affordable in those days that it took a ton of other spices and ingredients to make them look like burgers. They definitely weren't that good.
That's obviously Gates' implication when he says we should "shift" to 100% synthetic beef.
I don't think so. If I recall the previous time this was discussed, the objective was to drive the cost up of real meat to the point where people would then choose the fake meat.
So, not forced, but artificially steered that way?
Yuck. The newer versions have to be better. It just has to.
Well, Gates says we need to shift to 100% synthetic beef. 100%. The only way to get a nation of 300+ million people to use 100% synthetic beef would be to outlaw real beef.
Perhaps, but y'all are reading something into his comments that I didn't. He even mentioned that it would be unpopular to give up beef and that US cattle produce less methane gases than there counterparts in Africa. Sounds as though he is hedging his bets that it would ever happen. Beef is a commodity...if prices go up, more people raise cattle. If prices go down, you have fewer cattle that go to market. I remember going with my grandfather to sell cattle and him figuring how much to sale or not to sale based on the price he could get. Not sure there is any way to change that.