Big 10 Meet participants
- Thread starter Iron Doc
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Dean Peterson
Drake Ayala
Nasir Bailey
Ryder Block
Jordan Williams
Mikey Caliendo
Patrick Kennedy
Angelo Ferrari
Gabe Arnold
Ben Kueter
Drake Ayala
Nasir Bailey
Ryder Block
Jordan Williams
Mikey Caliendo
Patrick Kennedy
Angelo Ferrari
Gabe Arnold
Ben Kueter
How sure are we about Bailey coming back? He's missed like 2 months and it's been Petersen the whole time.
Bailey is the big question mark in my mind. And that has implications for allocations.
Bailey has 15 matches and was ranked 12 in the last coaches' rank, so he hits on two of the three criteria. Petersen only has 14 matches and a .714 win percentage, so he may miss out (depending on if he gets a CR or the cutline goes to 0.710).
Tom doesn't care about an allocation. If they can't get top 8-9 at big 10s they probably won't be scoring much at NCAAs.
Has he said this to you directly or are you reading the tea leaves?
I ask because this seems more like a fan perspective than a coach perspective. I think of coaches as being more strategic and looking for every little bit of edge for every last point and leading by example. It is the "chip and a chair" mentality. If you are in the tournament you still have a chance to win. If you are out of the tournament, you do not.
I also think of Brands as someone who has in mind what is best for each individual wrestler and thereby doing whatever it takes to increase the odds they meet their individual, and team goals.
Yesterday many opens were going on and Voinivich has 12 matches and Williams had 13. And neither went to an open to get 15 matches and an RPI. By not caring I mean they're not gonna run around and change plans to allocate.
And the Teske thing happened twice where he was eligible for an allocation but Tom didn’t put him down on the entrants list.
I think one of those was an oversight and one of those was due to a late wrestle off that was injury related.
Ok, so not something he said.
I wasn't sure because you have mentioned your insider status and that sounded like something you knew from your access.
Idk that is the story some tried to sell. The injury excuse never made sense to me because pretty sure Schriever wouldn’t have gotten an allocation anyways. They could have entered Teske’s name and if he wasn’t able to go then no harm no foul.
And the oversight thing…. sheesh no comment on that excuse.
I have never mentioned having insider access at Iowa . I said I talk with some coaches around the country.
If you had insider acces at Iowa both of those sentences would still be true.
- Jim Gibbons
Per Willie. Voinovich at 157 and Gabe at 197 for BIGs. He put that in his crystal ball article today
Yep been hearing rumblings it will be VV
Seems odd that it would be vv. If thats the case, not sure why he just wasnt given the spot vs osu. Also, if true, seems like it would be the end of williams at iowa, which i am fine with.
This Big Ten Tournament is going to be painful.
2 out of 3 big money NIL transfers this year won't even be competing this post season. Has to be the most epic NIL transfer fail.
It sounds like the way this was handled was not ideal.
Are you including Endene? If yes then you are correct. Dean Peterson is the only Iowa NIL guy this year who will compete this post season.
Williams at least has the ability to win matches, vv might keep it close but I don’t see him winning much in the post season.
There is a legitimate chance a finish outside top 10 of NCAAs is coming.
Hey atleast the Hawks have 10 B10 qualifiers. Boom!
+ Nasir.
that's who they submitted at 141, anyway. (they could change it though)
Not trying to put on rose colored glasses here but out side of the top 10? Kinda seems like literally everything would have to go wrong. illinois got 10th last year with 44.5 points
Iowa is a lock for Top 6/7. let's not get ridiculous.
Based on the coaching rankings, Iowa is projected at ~34 points. Angelo is not on there so even if he wins it all that’s like 18 more points probably.
Yes not saying its been great just dont see outside the top 10 if im wrong ill eat crow
I ran it through AI based on the coaching rankings and here is the top teams. No bonus points and guys like Angelo who didn’t make the cut aren’t included.
1. PSU 127
2. Ok St 67
3. ISU 64
4. Nebraska 63
5. Ohio State 61 (0 for cannon)
6. Cornell 40
7. NC State 37
8. Iowa 36
9. Illinois 30
10. Lehigh 27
11. VT 25
12. Minnesota 24
13. Michigan 23
ASU, Stanford have upside as well.
ffs. iowa will score more than 36 from 65 to 84 alone.
Oh I know, I don't either, but there's a number of things that have happened this year that nobody would have expected in November.
True true you would of told me after Oklahoma state dual in November we'd be even having any thoughts of outside the top 10 let alone top 5 I would of said you were crazy!