I guess they go with the old saying, you have to spend money to make it.That makes sense. Although, I'm not sure why they had to hire a research firm to conclude that. They could have figured that out just by watching the SEC.
That has to be the most asinine article I've ever read on ESPN--which is saying a lot.
Any legitimate research firm worth a damn would tell you they could conclude precisely nothing empirical about a playoff that is only 2 years old. By contrast, a shady outfit that isn't worth a damn would take the loot and tell you exactly what they think you want to hear.
Everybody here who was previously concerned about Big 12 leadership ought to be even more worried now.
When I read that Texas has an overwhelming influence on TTU as well as TCU I can't help but laugh. TTU, maybe. Both are part of the same educational system, etc. But TCU is a small (9,000 undergraduates) private Christian university that is totally unaffiliated with the tentacles of UT. TCU will do what it thinks is best for TCU. TCU owes UT nothing.
Houston and South Florida to the Big 12 mark it down
Super naive IMO if you think for a minute TCU doesn't play little brother to Texas. We're talkng about Athletics right and Revnue associated with those athletic revenue streams? As in the 10s of millions of more dollars per year that Texas helps TCU bring into the University. We're not talking about curriculum or where to spend those dollars. Come on man get your head in the game.
The article was not a problem but you are correct about the data. The process has been in place for just 2 years, and as long as you allow the 'eye' test to help make your final decision, there is no way there is enough data.That has to be the most asinine article I've ever read on ESPN--which is saying a lot.
Any legitimate research firm worth a damn would tell you they could conclude precisely nothing empirical about a playoff that is only 2 years old. By contrast, a shady outfit that isn't worth a damn would take the loot and tell you exactly what they think you want to hear.
Everybody here who was previously concerned about Big 12 leadership ought to be even more worried now.
Houston and South Florida Big 12 mark it down. Houston is ready to move up to a power 5 conference. So you are telling me if Texas A&M wanted to come back the the Big 12 would say not because the Texas market is already saturated
The most compelling reason to expand is the same reason the B1G took Rutgers and Maryland. Expanded footprint and TV sets. There are clear cut candidates in that regard. How is WVU currently superior to UC except for being in a power 5 conference? In what quantifiable aspect?
Houston is in I am telling you just watch Houston and South Florida are going to be in the Big 12
The biggest problem with expansion at the moment is there isn't any consensus candidates that look appealing. If Notre dame wanted to join the big 12 in football they would get 10 votes tomorrow but that's not gonna happen. The candidates that get the most mention seem to be Uconn, Cincy and Byu. Byu has the most name recognition of the 3 but they would be geographically isolated like we are if your gonna have outliers best to have them grouped together. Cincy would open up more opportunities to recruit Ohio but their stadium is a dump. Uconn would bring the largest tv market and they have had 9 players drafted in the NFL in the past 4 years which would place them near the top of the conference in that category but they lack a long standing tradition in football. Either way no choice is appealing
Apples and oranges, Greg. TTU has several wealthy and generous alumni. How else could a school smaller than Marshall get in the Big 12? Texas has the same amount of control over TCU as they do A&M. TTU I agree with. We'll see come vote time.
Houston is not in, does not expand the footprint for BIG12 Network.Houston is in I am telling you just watch Houston and South Florida are going to be in the Big 12
I'm not going to wade into this expansion BS again. I did that in 2015.
I will ask 1 question, do you know the Big XII by laws on expansion ie what it takes to get it approved?
For those who don't, let me tell Ya. It takes a minimum of 3/4 of member schools to AGREE for expansion to get it approved. In simple terms there needs to be 8 of 10 schools agree to expand since there can't be 7.5 schools.
Texas Longhorns -NO
Texas Tech -NO (cause they follow the Longhorns)
TCU - NO (cause they follow the Longhorns)
Baylor - don't know & doesn't matter
At this point it's a moot point and all the yelling is muted.
I don't think it will happen and for selfish reason I say God Bless Texas!!
The most compelling reason to expand is the same reason the B1G took Rutgers and Maryland. Expanded footprint and TV sets. There are clear cut candidates in that regard. How is WVU currently superior to UC except for being in a power 5 conference? In what quantifiable aspect?
The comparison between West Virginia and Cincinnati doesn't matter. It only matters what Cincinnati can add to the Big 12. It's not good enough for Cincinnati to be equal to this school or that school already in the conference. That is meaningless. The only thing that matters is whether or not Cincinnati adds anything to the bottom line of the Big 12. That's the question that has to be answered.
Specifically getting to your question, you have to remember that when West Virginia and TCU were selected, the Big 12 was replacing, not expanding. There are different criteria for each action. That goes back to my point that it's not good enough for Cincinnati to say, "We are equal to West Virginia in this or that." Cincinnati has to show they can bring in more money to the Big 12. That's what it all boils down to.
Agreed (Believe it or not) Extensive studies are being done to determine that. Gaining a wider audience with significant TVs are paramount, not getting a new team that can come in and dominate. You don't want a new cellar dweller either.
Agreed (Believe it or not) Extensive studies are being done to determine that. Gaining a wider audience with significant TVs are paramount, not getting a new team that can come in and dominate. You don't want a new cellar dweller either.