Big 12 - Week #12 ...my picks

[KCtornado]

The picks for Week # 12....Sooners come blasting out of gates Saturday. OSU holds tough in first half in Stoolwater, then Baylor scores plenty in second half to get Pokies holding their heads and crying. Two other Big 12 games...who cares !!

TCU Horned Frogs @ OU Sooners @ Baylor Bears

52-31 Sooners...(much will depend if Boykin play with at any good level...if not....cut the points for TCU in half.)

WVU Mountaineers @ KU Jayhawks

55-28 WVU...my prediction of a winless year for KU is intact.

Baylor Bears @ OSU Cowboys

55-36 Baylor (the Pokes greasy run slides into the ditch...Baylor pulls away in second half)

*** Score amended 11/20....Baylor wins 42-38 in the Stool. ***

Iowa State Cyclones @ Kansas State Wildcats

24-23 K-State (Think the old man is either heavily medicated or is on way out after WVU game in Manhattan)

** 2015 Record 58-9 **

 

[okie70]

Hard to see OSU losing this one. If the players OU beat up on the Baylor D can't play, especially the DBs, OSU QBs should have a field day. Baylor QB a good passer but not experienced enough to play a tough D and win in my opinion.

 

[sooner_mike]

The picks for Week # 12....Sooners come blasting out of gates Saturday. OSU holds tough in first half in Stoolwater, then Baylor scores plenty in second half to get Pokies holding their heads and crying. Two other Big 12 games...who cares !!

TCU Horned Frogs @ OU Sooners @ Baylor Bears

52-31 Sooners...(much will depend if Boykin play with at any good level...if not....cut the points for TCU in half.)

WVU Mountaineers @ KU Jayhawks

55-28 WVU...my prediction of a winless year for KU is intact.

Baylor Bears @ OSU Cowboys

55-36 Baylor (the Pokes greasy run slides into the ditch...Baylor pulls away in second half)

Iowa State Cyclones @ Kansas State Wildcats

24-23 K-State (Think the old man is either heavily medicated or is on way out after WVU game in Manhattan)

** 2015 Record 58-9 **

Love your picks man. OU fans looking for an OSU win over Baylor don't understand that even if OU beats OSU assuming OU beats TCU first it would be a split big 12 championship. I don't want to share anything with the pokes. Doesn't matter Baylor will beat OSU they're luck has run out.

 

[okie70]

If Baylor and OU both win out same problem. Only OU would not be playing an unbeaten, likely No. 5 OSU with GameDay probably in Stillwater with the winner having Herbstreit ready to lobby for the Big 12 champ against Notre Dame. Think long term (two weeks).

 

[sooner_mike]

If Baylor and OU both win out same problem. Only OU would not be playing an unbeaten, likely No. 5 OSU with GameDay probably in Stillwater with the winner having Herbstreit ready to lobby for the Big 12 champ against Notre Dame. Think long term (two weeks).

I would rather split it both Baylor than OSU. Listening to their stupid fans an entire year would get old fast. They just don't know how to act. They've never been there before

 

[okie70]

Understood. Since I don't live in Okla. no OSU fans around to taunt me. I would just prefer a better shot at the playoffs that OSU can help OU get. That's all.

 

[okie70]

I think the odds on OSU went up a little. Both Baylor DTs and both safeties are questionable for Sat. OU really beat them up.

 

[sooner_mike]

I think the odds on OSU went up a little. Both Baylor DTs and both safeties are questionable for Sat. OU really beat them up.

Yeah, that can't be good.....

 

[KCtornado]

I truthfully think that OSU's defense is largely untested...and overrated. Hard to really pin down TCU's woes other than they missed Doctson against OSU and Boykin hurting his ankle has also knocked them off balance. Baylor takes them down because they have a soft defensive back field capable of yielding long pass plays to Baylor. Lots of points is one take away from this game...

 

[sooner_mike]

I truthfully think that OSU's defense is largely untested...and overrated. Hard to really pin down TCU's woes other than they missed Doctson against OSU and Boykin hurting his ankle has also knocked them off balance. Baylor takes them down because they have a soft defensive back field capable of yielding long pass plays to Baylor. Lots of points is one take away from this game...

Also keep in.mind OSU can't run the ball. They're horrible at it. Art Briles isn't going to allow the over the top stuff to number 28 either. OSU should truly have 3 losses right now. Lady luck runs out on little brother this week.

 

[Soonerborn1959]

I believe beating an undefeated OSU at seasons end will help our case much more than beating a 1 loss Poke team. This would mean that the team we all root for would have knocked off 2 undefeated teams over the final 3 weeks. I won't ever find myself rooting for Baylor against anyone except maybe Texas and unlike some Sooner fans I have no hatred for the Pokes and actually root for them when OU isn't playing them. Its good for the state to have two quality football teams in it.

For the record I grew up in the Stillwater area and to say the OSU fans don' t know how to act I would say you have been around the wrong ones. Most are good fans and then you have those that think the world rises around them. OUr fan base is no different because I have been around some that live in that same fantasy world and have no idea how to act.

 

[Section22Sooner]

Love your picks man. OU fans looking for an OSU win over Baylor don't understand that even if OU beats OSU assuming OU beats TCU first it would be a split big 12 championship. I don't want to share anything with the pokes. Doesn't matter Baylor will beat OSU they're luck has run out.

Tiebreaker Procedures (From the Big 12 Web Site)
Effective June 2015

The following procedure will determine the Conference Champion. The tiebreaker will also be used to break other ties as necessary. For the avoidance of doubt, only Conference records will be used throughout the process:

1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the champion.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the Champion.

2. The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against each other.

The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against the next highest placed team(s) in the conference (4, 5 and 6….).

a. When comparing against the next highest placed teams, a two-way tie among the next highest placed teams will be broken by head-to-head before the comparison begins.

b. If more than a two-way tie exists among the next highest placed teams, record against the collective tied teams as a group will be used.

3. Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration. (Run up the damn score! Bob, don't take a knee at the end of the game. Put it in the end zone. And don't give up any trash-time scores.)

4. Draw (In the event steps 1-3 cannot break a multi-team tie the champion will be determined by draw at the Conference office. (Wow, that would suck.)

In the event that scheduled regular season contests cannot be played as originally scheduled, every effort shall be made to reschedule such a contest at the earliest possible date, provided that such rescheduling does not interfere with classes, examination periods, NCAA rules, or other sports prohibitions. If contests cannot be rescheduled and in the event of a first-place tie, the conference tiebreaker system will be utilized to identify the Conference Champion.

BTW - Baylor will hammer the Cow Pies. It won't even be close.

 

[Plainosooner_rivals54053]

Love your picks man. OU fans looking for an OSU win over Baylor don't understand that even if OU beats OSU assuming OU beats TCU first it would be a split big 12 championship. I don't want to share anything with the pokes. Doesn't matter Baylor will beat OSU they're luck has run out.

Unless there is one of those three ways, where the other three win one and lose one against the other two, then if OU wins out, they're going to share it with somebody. It's possible for all three to be two loss teams. For that to happen, TCU would have to beat Baylor after this week, the Bears beat OSU. Right now, I don't think Baylor wins in Stillwater.

Or we could have the weirdest result, where Baylor beats both OSU and TCU, but then loses to Texas. That is the only other way that the Sooners win the conference outright.

I expect OU to beat TCU and OSU to beat Baylor to set up the greatest Bedlam ever. I know there was a year when OSU was like number four coming in, but I believe they'd already lost to Nebraska, sometime in the 80. Maybe the ice bowl night?

If Boykin plays, I don't think we'll get to the 50s, but I'd love to be wrong.

If Boykin plays and is decent throwing it, I'd figure 48-25 Sooners. If he plays but not effectively, then we could get into the high 50s. His back up should play better than he did last week, even though it was Kansas. If they know he's going to start, he'll get the practice reps and give a decent showing. I just have the feeling, though, that we'll have a little emotional drop after being so geared up for the Bears. And I expect us to score a little less than we might any other week.

 

[sooner_mike]

Tiebreaker Procedures (From the Big 12 Web Site)
Effective June 2015

The following procedure will determine the Conference Champion. The tiebreaker will also be used to break other ties as necessary. For the avoidance of doubt, only Conference records will be used throughout the process:

1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the champion.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the Champion.

2. The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against each other.

The conference records of the three or more teams will be compared against the next highest placed team(s) in the conference (4, 5 and 6….).

a. When comparing against the next highest placed teams, a two-way tie among the next highest placed teams will be broken by head-to-head before the comparison begins.

b. If more than a two-way tie exists among the next highest placed teams, record against the collective tied teams as a group will be used.

3. Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration. (Run up the damn score! Bob, don't take a knee at the end of the game. Put it in the end zone. And don't give up any trash-time scores.)

4. Draw (In the event steps 1-3 cannot break a multi-team tie the champion will be determined by draw at the Conference office. (Wow, that would suck.)

In the event that scheduled regular season contests cannot be played as originally scheduled, every effort shall be made to reschedule such a contest at the earliest possible date, provided that such rescheduling does not interfere with classes, examination periods, NCAA rules, or other sports prohibitions. If contests cannot be rescheduled and in the event of a first-place tie, the conference tiebreaker system will be utilized to identify the Conference Champion.

BTW - Baylor will hammer the Cow Pies. It won't even be close.

Wow, thanks 22 didn't realize they changed the rule.

 

[dfwsoonerfan]

I would rather split it both Baylor than OSU. Listening to their stupid fans an entire year would get old fast. They just don't know how to act. They've never been there before

Pokes want no part of OU for all the marbles

 

[okie70]

Plaino, I think it was '84. Boz' debut. OSU was higher ranked, can't remember why will have to look it up. Played in Norman. The year of the terrible tie in the RRS with the blown official call and the debacle in Lawrence when Aikman had to come in for Bradley. But Switzer's guys won. Almost as good as the '88 game in Stillwater with Sanders vs. the OU stud from MWC. Good old age is a *****. Can't remember anyone's name. Even OU players. Praying for the same scenario.

 

[apl817]

I truthfully think that OSU's defense is largely untested...and overrated. Hard to really pin down TCU's woes other than they missed Doctson against OSU and Boykin hurting his ankle has also knocked them off balance. Baylor takes them down because they have a soft defensive back field capable of yielding long pass plays to Baylor. Lots of points is one take away from this game...

So you mention it's hard to pinpoint TCU's woes, then mention OSU's defense is untested. I'm not really sure how you can face Texas Tech and TCU already yet still be untested. Boykin was 100% healthy and Doctson played most of the first half against OSU and was very active, they scored 9 points when he was in the game.

The facts are there are holes in the defense for sure, but at times when the adjustments are right OSU can have a game changing defense. There have been lapses, not sure if it's coaching or just effort, but the Pokes have been pretty dominant after halftime.

2nd half defense
KSU - 7 points allowed, 126 yards, 1 TO forced
TT - 14 points allowed, 296 yards, 3 TOs forced
ISU - 7 points allowed, 94 yards, 1 TO forced

TCU ran up a bunch of yards, but mainly because we went into clock draining mode. They still had 3 TOs in the 2nd half as well.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I think the odds on OSU went up a little. Both Baylor DTs and both safeties are questionable for Sat. OU really beat them up.

Add to this, Stidham is banged up. Tapper tossed him to the ground like a rag doll. He was never the same after that. OSU beats Baylor. OU beats TCU...

 

[LongTimeSooner]

Count me in the camp that thinks Baylor pulls down the poke's pants and hammerspanks them.

 

[Schoonerman_rivals49058]

I guess I'm the lone dissenter here as I predict OSU to win. Baylor will come out and try to run the ball (averaging 292 ypg) to keep OSU offense off the field. Despite OSU's weak rushing attack, Baylor is beat up on the D-line and in the backfield, so once Rudolph gets on the field, they will have success moving the ball. Also, I'm thinking the OSU D might be better than some think, and will be able to get pressure on Stidham, but may give up some big yards to the Baylor rushing attack. Playing in The Stool is a decided advantage and OSU wins 42-34.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I guess I'm the lone dissenter here as I predict OSU to win. Baylor will come out and try to run the ball (averaging 292 ypg) to keep OSU offense off the field. Despite OSU's weak rushing attack, Baylor is beat up on the D-line and in the backfield, so once Rudolph gets on the field, they will have success moving the ball. Also, I'm thinking the OSU D might be better than some think, and will be able to get pressure on Stidham, but may give up some big yards to the Baylor rushing attack. Playing in The Stool is a decided advantage and OSU wins 42-34.

Nope. Two posts above I too have the Pokes beating the Baptists.

 

[Schoonerman_rivals49058]

Nope. Two posts above I too have the Pokes beating the Baptists.

Okay, missed that one. I'm in good company! I won't have any trouble rooting for Baylor, although I know that every Sooner should be pulling for an undefeated OSU when Bedlam rolls around.

 

[K2C Sooner]

I'm pulling for the Cowboys. It just makes sense to go against an undefeated team.

Of course, we need to take care of TCU. Vegas still has no line.....

 

[Section22Sooner]

Picking Baylor to win shouldn't be confused with pulling for Baylor. They are two different things. I'm pulling for the Pukes, but I think Baylor will curb stomp them.

 

[SoonerTulsan]

I guess I'm the lone dissenter here as I predict OSU to win. Baylor will come out and try to run the ball (averaging 292 ypg) to keep OSU offense off the field. Despite OSU's weak rushing attack, Baylor is beat up on the D-line and in the backfield, so once Rudolph gets on the field, they will have success moving the ball. Also, I'm thinking the OSU D might be better than some think, and will be able to get pressure on Stidham, but may give up some big yards to the Baylor rushing attack. Playing in The Stool is a decided advantage and OSU wins 42-34.

No sir you're not the lone intelligent one picking the Poke. I am too.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

No sir you're not the lone intelligent one picking the Poke. I am too.

Yeah, with those knuckleheads slapping them damn paddles, Baylor totally gimped up...all that freakin' orange...Bears might get rolled.

 

[SoonerTulsan]

Yeah, with those knuckleheads slapping them damn paddles, Baylor totally gimped up...all that freakin' orange...Bears might get rolled.

I'm more concerned about OSU game than I was Baylor or TCU. The Pokes find ways to lose games, not win them. They've defied that principle of football physics 4 times this year.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

I'm more concerned about OSU game than I was Baylor or TCU. The Pokes find ways to lose games, not win them. They've defied that principle of football physics 4 times this year.

I know, you see the Texas game?

The burning question going back to Stoolwater that night was..."Ya mean we really won the game?"

(I know, I know, they did something OU didn't do...don't go there)

 

[SoonerTulsan]

I know, you see the Texas game?

The burning question going back to Stoolwater that night was..."Ya mean we really won the game?"

(I know, I know, they did something OU didn't do...don't go there)

I watched 3 of the 4. I had no doubt they were going to come back and beat ISU. It scared me a bit when I realized after the fact that it was the Bizarro Pokes I've been watching.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Love your picks man. OU fans looking for an OSU win over Baylor don't understand that even if OU beats OSU assuming OU beats TCU first it would be a split big 12 championship. I don't want to share anything with the pokes. Doesn't matter Baylor will beat OSU they're luck has run out.

I have a major problem pulling for aOm or Baylor in anything. I suppose if Baylor beat the aggies and the frogs beat the bears with OU winning out... I could live with that.

 

[MiccoMacey]

If OU wins out, we're the Big Twelve Champions outright.

I'm rooting for OSU obviously, but I honestly think Baylor beats them.

 

[dignon003]

I truthfully think that OSU's defense is largely untested...and overrated. Hard to really pin down TCU's woes other than they missed Doctson against OSU and Boykin hurting his ankle has also knocked them off balance. Baylor takes them down because they have a soft defensive back field capable of yielding long pass plays to Baylor. Lots of points is one take away from this game...

TCU was down big when Doctson went down and a healthy Boykin didn't do much. OSU will hit Stidham. We'll see if he can make tough plays on the road. I don't think he can.

 

[sooner_mike]

If OU wins out, we're the Big Twelve Champions outright.

I'm rooting for OSU obviously, but I honestly think Baylor beats them.

I'm not to sure with, them possibly starting a new QB. I Guess the sooners ruffed up their true freshman.

 

[KCtornado]

Stidham will start with a bruised up back....will put my pick still with Baylor, but a tighter margin. 42-38 Baylor in a tight one....