Big Brother 23

[KingLlama]

- Yes, their dominance made for a less-exciting season, but still...you have to give credit where credit is due. The master plan that Tiffany devised was genius. They dominated the game without dominating all the comps, never actually got to meet as a group to strategize, and were never sniffed out until they'd sent people packing. Just brilliant all the way around.

- Having said that, the strength of the alliance, and the fact that its architect was voted out a few weeks ago, means that Xavier won't be seen as a top-tier champion. I'm not saying he should be, I'm just saying that I think people will think back on this and see it as Tiffany's season. When looking at the list of winners, I'd probably put Xavier somewhere in the middle. Definitely not the worst, definitely not the best.

- I think Azah would have gotten two votes against Xavier, three tops. But it still wouldn't have been close. I can appreciate the fact that she just didn't think Big D deserved to get $75k after his treatment of people in the house, but still...she should have taken him if it had gotten to that point.

- The fact that Frenchie didn't get to say a single word last night means that we're ALL winners.

- I hate the structure of the jury questioning in BB. I wish it was more like Survivor, where there could be give-and-take and follow-up. It's criminal that nobody got to push back against Big D's claim to start/orchestrate the cookout. BB finalists get off so much easier than Survivor finalists.

- If there's one thing this season robbed us of, it's that we didn't get to see the live studio audience boo Kyland after his classless exit. I would have given anything for him to walk out to jeers, then try to keep that smug, fake smile on his face as he realized what a bad move he made. We also got robbed of seeing SB confront Kyland, and I hope she did.

- Big D calling out Whitney for her revealing sports bra.....dude, your boobs hung out the side of your tank top on EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

- I honestly don't know how houseguests can keep track of info for comps....what day in the house it is, how many times someone was put on the block, etc. Then again, I guess that's all they think about all day every day, so maybe it's just easier for them.

- Was it a great season? I wouldn't call it great. I would call it good. A mostly likeable cast. If they bring back any of these players for All-Stars, I could see Tiff, DX, and Hannah being worthy. The rest, I could do without seeing again.

Sorry this was long.

 

[funKYcat75]

- I honestly don't know how houseguests can keep track of info for comps....what day in the house it is, how many times someone was put on the block, etc. Then again, I guess that's all they think about all day every day, so maybe it's just easier for them.

I was trying to imagine how it could even be possible to know all of that information. They can't write down things as far as I've seen, so they must spend an inordinate amount of time just sitting around rehashing what has happened. That's torture, IMO.

Stick Britni and Big D in a room and whoever doesn't hang themselves first is the winner of BB 23.2

Xavier is just a straight up smart guy.

Glad it's over.

 

[funKYcat75]

Frenchie seems like a monster in the game so far. Early favorite.

This is why I don't gamble.

X, Hannah and Azah are probably what we'll get though.

2/3 ain't bad though.

 

[Body_Parts]

I'm not certain Big Brother recovers from this honestly.

Do all black alliances become a thing moving forward? Do all the white cast members in future seasons take aim at the POC early on in order to advance further? Would producers allow that?

Many more questions which I'm not sure can be answered.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I'm not certain Big Brother recovers from this honestly.

Do all black alliances become a thing moving forward? Do all the white cast members in future seasons take aim at the POC early on in order to advance further? Would producers allow that?

Many more questions which I'm not sure can be answered.

Not unless they want to commit social and career suicide.

 

[magic8ball]

Check out the new cast of Survivor if you think this cast wasn't attractive.

Yeah, I've seen it.

Survivor doesn't rely on looks nearly as much as BB. Or Amazing Race.

 

[magic8ball]

I'm not sure what the ratings were but I hope they were trash.

Ratings > Wokeness in the long run.

Gotta have people watching and if you don't, what is the point??

 

[BankerCat12]

I'm not sure what the ratings were but I hope they were trash.

Ratings > Wokeness in the long run.

Gotta have people watching and if you don't, what is the point??

Where can you find the ratings? Would be interesting to compare year to year and then half way thru this season compared to the beginning of this season. Drastic fall off in all categories.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

Anyone watched this season of BB?

 

[GeraldV]

Anyone watched this season of BB?

Nope. I successfully punched out this year. Haven’t seen the first episode for the first time ever.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

Nope. I successfully punched out this year. Haven’t seen the first episode for the first time ever.

It hasn't been as bad as some years but a dude got voted out last night because he had commented that the minorities in the house could come together and be another cookout type alliance and pick of the non minority houseguest. He, of course, was then targeted as being racist despite that being the only comment he had ever made concerning race and the fact he at some point had worked with 3 of the minority folks. I don't get how all the people of one race coming together last year to vote out everyone else wasn't racist but him bringing up that the houseguest could come together to do it again was?

If that is all it's going to turn into then I will probably quit watching as well. Can I not just enjoy my guilty pleasure reality TV without Hollywood turning it into a race war every season?

 

[funKYcat75]

Yeah. he just said what everyone in the entire world was thinking. How dare he?!

 

[Laparkafan]

It hasn't been as bad as some years but a dude got voted out last night because he had commented that the minorities in the house could come together and be another cookout type alliance and pick of the non minority houseguest. He, of course, was then targeted as being racist despite that being the only comment he had ever made concerning race and the fact he at some point had worked with 3 of the minority folks. I don't get how all the people of one race coming together last year to vote out everyone else wasn't racist but him bringing up that the houseguest could come together to do it again was?

If that is all it's going to turn into then I will probably quit watching as well. Can I not just enjoy my guilty pleasure reality TV without Hollywood turning it into a race war every season?

Ya the first few seasons were pretty good but then a few seasons ago they did like 90 twists in the first 2 weeks and it was just ridiculous - essentially rigging who was staying/getting voted out and the “vote back in” competitions were getting absurd too

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

It hasn't been as bad as some years but a dude got voted out last night because he had commented that the minorities in the house could come together and be another cookout type alliance and pick of the non minority houseguest. He, of course, was then targeted as being racist despite that being the only comment he had ever made concerning race and the fact he at some point had worked with 3 of the minority folks. I don't get how all the people of one race coming together last year to vote out everyone else wasn't racist but him bringing up that the houseguest could come together to do it again was?

If that is all it's going to turn into then I will probably quit watching as well. Can I not just enjoy my guilty pleasure reality TV without Hollywood turning it into a race war every season?

Yep that was messed up. If I were the guy who got labeled as racist, I would be mad at cbs for how they portrayed him. Guess he signed documents where he can’t sue but otherwise wonder if he would have a defamation of character type case. Like you I really don’t get how last year what happened wasn’t racist by the african Americans who formed the african American only alliance, yet the white dude this year is racist because he said he’s afraid it could happen again. Kinda the society we are living in now I guess.

 

[funKYcat75]

Is Alyssa a top 5 hottest houseguest ever, or is this season just lacking?

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

Is Alyssa a top 5 hottest houseguest ever, or is this season just lacking?

She is okay but not sure she is top 5. Overall this whole group is underwhelming. I mean I highly doubt that Michael would have won 6 Veto comps breaking the all time record if any of the other contestants were even remotely worthy competitors.

As a side note the fact that Brittany thinks she and Michael have played an outstanding game when she has just rode the coattail of his 8 competition wins is all you need to know about this cast.

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

As a side note the fact that Brittany thinks she and Michael have played an outstanding game when she has just rode the coattail of his 8 competition wins is all you need to know about this cast.

I don't know which comments made me laugh more during the last episode.

First, you have her referring to herself and Michael as a "dynamic duo". Like excuse me? I wouldn't really call it a duo when you are dead weight being dragged to the finish line. She's won one veto comp and it was when the house was split into two houses.

And second, you have her and Taylor talking about taking a shot at Michael next week if they win HOH. Like you are two of the worst in the house at comps.. and frankly, the entire game of BB.

Taylor gets lucky and wins one HOH. Clearly has absolutely no idea what she is doing during it, her alliance is scratching their heads with every potential move she talks about, and now she thinks she is a BB beast.

You both are still in the house because people don't see you as a threat.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Not sure anyone besides Turner or Michael deserve to win. Thursday is a double eviction so something crazy could happen.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Not sure anyone besides Turner or Michael deserve to win. Thursday is a double eviction so something crazy could happen.

Ed-something me and you agree on

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

Regardless of how everyone feels about the whole Kyle and cookout 2.0 drama that has surrounded the past two weeks, it's obvious the houseguests took offense to it. With that being said, I am anxious to see how they react when they learn that Michael withheld this info until it could help ensure his safety.

There is no sugar coating it like he has been in the house. He had a DR in that episode where he literally said he was going to use this information to keep himself safe. So his whole spiel about how he was conflicted on if he should bring it to the houses attention and that he finally did for the betterment of the house was all such ********.

If I was in their position and felt offended by Kyle's comments, I'd be equally or even more pissed at the guy who weaponize it to further his own game.

Terrence is definitely skeptical of the timing that this was brought up. Dude isn't an idiot and obviously has a lot of common sense and sees through ******** pretty easily. I'm pulling for him to keep himself in the house.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Regardless of how everyone feels about the whole Kyle and cookout 2.0 drama that has surrounded the past two weeks, it's obvious the houseguests took offense to it. With that being said, I am anxious to see how they react when they learn that Michael withheld this info until it could help ensure his safety.

There is no sugar coating it like he has been in the house. He had a DR in that episode where he literally said he was going to use this information to keep himself safe. So his whole spiel about how he was conflicted on if he should bring it to the houses attention and that he finally did for the betterment of the house was all such ********.

If I was in their position and felt offended by Kyle's comments, I'd be equally or even more pissed at the guy who weaponize it to further his own game.

Terrence is definitely skeptical of the timing that this was brought up. Dude isn't an idiot and obviously has a lot of common sense and sees through ******** pretty easily. I'm pulling for him to keep himself in the house.

I didn’t like Kyle but I thought he got a bad rap on the whole deal.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Regardless of how everyone feels about the whole Kyle and cookout 2.0 drama that has surrounded the past two weeks, it's obvious the houseguests took offense to it. With that being said, I am anxious to see how they react when they learn that Michael withheld this info until it could help ensure his safety.

There is no sugar coating it like he has been in the house. He had a DR in that episode where he literally said he was going to use this information to keep himself safe. So his whole spiel about how he was conflicted on if he should bring it to the houses attention and that he finally did for the betterment of the house was all such ********.

If I was in their position and felt offended by Kyle's comments, I'd be equally or even more pissed at the guy who weaponize it to further his own game.

Terrence is definitely skeptical of the timing that this was brought up. Dude isn't an idiot and obviously has a lot of common sense and sees through ******** pretty easily. I'm pulling for him to keep himself in the house.

I was thinking the houseguests were already told/already found out that Michael withheld the info for 2 weeks.

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

I was thinking the houseguests were already told/already found out that Michael withheld the info for 2 weeks.

Well they do.

But, Michael specifically states in a DR during the episode where this came to light that he is using this to keep himself safe. I think it will strike a cord with them when they hear Michael blatantly state that he is using this info to further his own game.

The story he gave them about knowing and being conflicted was all BS. He and Brittany said so many times how they are bringing this up for the betterment of the house, and that is just false.

Contrary to Brittany saying this is not a smart game move, it kept Michael totally safe in a week that he was the backdoor option of Turner's HOH.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I didn’t like Kyle but I thought he got a bad rap on the whole deal.

I agree with you Ed. He had let his showmance cloud his judgement and made some stupid game moves. It was his paranoia of wondering where alliances could be forming to suggest the cookout 2.0 could happen but I never felt, from anything they showed on any episodes anyway, that he was racist or intentionally targeting a certain race. It seemed to me he was saying that if another cookout alliance was happening the nonminority houseguest would be easy prey and that is facts. I mean last season there were people who had suspicions about the cookout but was afraid to talk about it for this very reason and they all went home. At that time he had the conversations with Michael and Brittany he was still tight with Monte & Joseph. It would seem if he were racist he wouldn't have tried working with those 2 from day 1. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed but I don't think he is racist at all and the sad thing is by the end of the week they convinced him he was.

Regardless of how everyone feels about the whole Kyle and cookout 2.0 drama that has surrounded the past two weeks, it's obvious the houseguests took offense to it. With that being said, I am anxious to see how they react when they learn that Michael withheld this info until it could help ensure his safety.

I am not a minority so maybe I don't understand and maybe it was how Michael and Brittany laid it all out to them as they don't see the real conversations but I don't see why they took so much offense to it. He never made offensive remarks about any race or anyone in particular person. His whole theory was based on the fact that an all black alliance had formed and ran the game last season and if they chose to do it again they had the numbers to repeat it. His comments were game related scenarios not personal attacks against any race. The real villain's in this whole scenario is Michael and Brittany because they didn't care what repercussions this would have on Kyle outside of the house as long as it furthered their game and in this cancel culture we live in today this kids life could be ruined.

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

I am not a minority so maybe I don't understand and maybe it was how Michael and Brittany laid it all out to them as they don't see the real conversations but I don't see why they took so much offense to it. He never made offensive remarks about any race or anyone in particular person. His whole theory was based on the fact that an all black alliance had formed and ran the game last season and if they chose to do it again they had the numbers to repeat it. His comments were game related scenarios not personal attacks against any race. The real villain's in this whole scenario is Michael and Brittany because they didn't care what repercussions this would have on Kyle outside of the house as long as it furthered their game and in this cancel culture we live in today this kids life could be ruined.

Yeah, I mean I am also having a hard time wrapping my head around why Kyle speculating a cookout 2.0 alliance could exist was so bad.

Regardless of our own personal feelings, the houseguest took offense. They saw it as some type of racism. I think the biggest thing to come out of all this is the fact that Michael and Brittany are willing to use actions they perceive as racism to further their own game. And not only that, but sit on it until a time they felt it could best benefit their game.

In my opinion, their actions are worse than Kyle's perceived racism/racial biased. And I have to think when the season ends and the houseguests see what Michael said, they also will may think that.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

Who is more delusional about their game skills Terrance or Brittany? Terrance thinks there is a way out and he will figure it out and Brittany thought she was 100% going to manipulate Michael into using the POV to put up Monte or Turner.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Who is more delusional about their game skills Terrance or Brittany? Terrance thinks there is a way out and he will figure it out and Brittany thought she was 100% going to manipulate Michael into using the POV to put up Monte or Turner.

Brittany. She got pissy because Michael wouldn’t make a “big move” when she has done nothing but ride his coattails. I question a couple of things Michael has done but he has dominated.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

Brittany. She got pissy because Michael wouldn’t make a “big move” when she has done nothing but ride his coattails. I question a couple of things Michael has done but he has dominated.

She kept saying that backdooring Turner was best for his game but in reality it was about eliminating someone she knows she can't beat for HOH this week.

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

Who is more delusional about their game skills Terrance or Brittany? Terrance thinks there is a way out and he will figure it out and Brittany thought she was 100% going to manipulate Michael into using the POV to put up Monte or Turner.

Brittany for sure. Her only worth in the game is being so worthless that Michael would not even have to campaign if it were her he sat next to on the final vote.

As far as Terrance. I want him to stay cause I like him. But, I'm here for him going into the jury house and trying to blow Michaels game up over the whole Kyle situation.

 

[funKYcat75]

Big moves. Finally.

 

[bigsmoothie]

That escalated quickly

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

Lol’ing at Brittany being so shocked that Michael would throw her under the bus to stay in the house.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Lol’ing at Brittany being so shocked that Michael would throw her under the bus to stay in the house.

She is terrible.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

She is terrible.

It's always funny to see people think they are a great player because they make it to the end when in reality someone only brought them along because they know they can beat them because they have accomplished nothing.

 

[KYWildCatsFan]

It's always funny to see people think they are a great player because they make it to the finally when in reality someone only brought them along because they know they can beat them because they have accomplished nothing.

AKA Taylor.

She thinks she's hot ****. If she wasn't bullied the first week, she'd be long gone by now.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

So if Taylor puts up Brittany and Turner and the noms stay the same will Monte keep Turner or will he vote him out like Taylor will want him to do? She made it known last week she wants Turner out and she has to know that Brittany would lose to anyone in the finals so Turner is her likely target. Of course if he wins the POV then Brittany is likely to go as I don't think Turner would vote out Monte.

 

[bigsmoothie]

So if Taylor puts up Brittany and Turner and the noms stay the same will Monte keep Turner or will he vote him out like Taylor will want him to do? She made it known last week she wants Turner out and she has to know that Brittany would lose to anyone in the finals so Turner is her likely target. Of course if he wins the POV then Brittany is likely to go as I don't think Turner would vote out Monte.

Monte and Taylor ate hooking up so he may not be thinking straight. He should want to be by Brittany for the final. No one except Michael is voting for her

 

[funKYcat75]

I hope Monte is smart enough to see what Taylor is doing. Pretty sure a HJ is not worth $750k.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I hope Monte is smart enough to see what Taylor is doing. Pretty sure a HJ is not worth $750k.

Has there ever been a contestant have 2 showmances in the same season?

 

[Boogie Fan]

Has there ever been a contestant have 2 showmances in the same season?

A couple of seasons back Nick had a showmance with Bella and then hooked up with Kat in jury house.