Ncaa addressing game flow
I am all for it
Big changes coming to college basketball
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Ncaa addressing game flow
I am all for it
There’s this thing you can do when something ain’t broke……..
I like the challenge Idea, but think it needs to be like football. If it's less than 2:00 minutes to go in a game, challenges must come from the booth.
I hate the long reviews too, but if we get screwed out of a review because we don't have a challenge and it's an obvious eff up by the refs, I'm gonna be pissed.
I know halves is tradition, but man, it's gotten so choppy with ads and FT shooting contests. Let's try quarters for a bit, even if it's just in exhibitions. See if it helps with pacing.
Please don’t add continuation. That is one of the worst aspects of NBA.
I also don’t think 1 coach’s review challenge is enough, unless you got another if it was ruled in your favor.
I also don’t think 1 coach’s review challenge is enough, unless you got another if it was ruled in your favor.
Man, CBB is broke in terms of these awful video reviews. We had a tournament game take nearly an extra 45 minutes to play like what....4 minutes? It was AWFUL.
Depending on the ref they call continuation anyways... might as well change it.
The game of college basketball is broke as heck. The games taking 2.5 to 3 hours due to refs going to the review so much is the dumbest thing I have seen in basketball. If you like the way the games flows good for you. I would rather watch paint dry on the wall instead of the last 4 minutes of an aired college basketball game. Worst product on the market.
Then we can discuss that all forms of organized basketball has 4 quarters and the college game is still dealing with 2 halves.
Block / Charge is the worst of any league or division.
Refs should be graded per game per each team. If they are found to always seem to go at one coach, one team in a game, then they are on notice. If they do it a 2nd time, then they lose any games against that team including post season tourneys. Refs should be held accountable 1000000% at all levels. You should never even notice they are part of the game. If a ref is showboating to home crowd (either for or against) then they should be replaced by the alternate. IT is not NCAA officiating that we turn the channel on for each and ever day.
Flop can easily be fixed. If you are not run over, start to fall before the guy touches you, reach out in any way, it is a tech on the player. 2 techs (out of the game).
This is a simple game, it needs to be fixed quick, fast and in a hurry.
I do think reviews need to be limited on time but when they limit the number of reviews to just challenges or whatever its going to lead to more terrible calls sticking and more ways for refs to have an excuse to be bad...on purpose if you believe that or not ..cough gambling cough
“This rule has sparked controversy late in games, particularly for teams like Kentucky.”
The college game was much better off before we started monitor reviews. The obsession with " getting it right"( placating the millions gambling on games) has made college basketball unwatchable.The one challenge rule is a much needed change. As for the rules designed to make college game more like the NBA I hate them all,because I hate NBA basketball. I have tried watching NBA playoffs this year ,talking about unwatchable. Blatant walking on nearly every play, guys jacking up 60 threes a game and missing most of theM,brutally inconsistent officiating. Guys like Jocic Allowed to hack,push defenders our of way nothing called. I'd rather watch flies copulate. I loved the college game because it wasn't the NBA
The game was fine without all the reviews. It always evened out of the decade. You win some you lose some. The constant “gotta get it right” mentality has destroyed CBB and baseball.
But we wouldn’t be “screwed” out of that review. Instead it would theoretically be our own damn fault for having done a bad challenge earlier in the game. A coach who picks the right plays to challenge doesn’t lose his challenges.
I’ve got no problem with that. If a coach wastes everybody’s time with a frivolous challenge then he can deal with the consequences.
I think it would be too weird for me to watch a game divided into quarters. I’d like to see another foul added, 6 total before fouling out.
They need to replace the referees with androids first.
Less monitor reviews? All for it.
Quarters? Fine, honestly. Halves are just nostalgic.
A rule change I never see mentioned but would favor: eliminate individual foul outs. Puts way too much power in the refs hands when they can pick and choose which players to send to the bench.
Quarters? Fine, honestly. Halves are just nostalgic.
A rule change I never see mentioned but would favor: eliminate individual foul outs. Puts way too much power in the refs hands when they can pick and choose which players to send to the bench.
And it really seems like they only review the easier calls that they get right and hardly review things that there's a legit chance they got the call wrong.
Make sure that basketball terrorist Buzz Williams can’t hurt players and peoples schedules any longer!
I taped a least five games during SEC play that were almost 3 hours long.
So through history of NCAA basketball, before the review, do you think the amount of missed calls was 50% or better? It is like the knee jerk reaction, probably to a call that went against DUKE, UNC that started the whole thing. It is easy, one review per coach per half. Goal tend is always a review and not counted. If a ref makes a mistake, a coach asks for the review and wins, he keeps his review. If the coach asks for the review and it is found to be a good call then the team loses a time out and the review for that half is over. If you do not review in the first half you can use in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half but do not get to keep if used in the 2nd half. The other review in the 2nd half has the normal rules. If a coach asks for a review without a time out and loses the review then it is 2 free throws and the ball for the other team. Players on the floor have to stand on the court across from the opposite teams bench and cannot have contact with coaches. Eliminating all the extra free time outs for coaches.
Only problem is these SEC teams would absolutely maul us every game. Couldn’t imagine playing Georgia or Tennessee when they don’t have to worry about foul outs. I get the principle but gotta leave it. Unless there’s a really good deterrent. I’m never in favor of many rule changes though, men just make things worse when they try and fix it.
It’s broker than broke. A conference mid week game is nearly unwatchable. The product honestly sucks. I hate the nba but much cleaner version of basketball compared to college
Well, 4 quarters suck. Waters down second and 3rd
I feel the opposite. I don’t like situations where the rules incentivize fouling, which is what currently exists in college. I think the game actually improves if the defense doesn’t have the option to stop easy baskets by hacking just before the shot goes up if they get beat on a play.
NCAA bb games used to take 1:50. Now they take three hours. It's INSANE.
Yeah, but thats on the added rules that shouldnt have been added, and on the refs. College basketball was fine til all the rule changes. Only way to fix it is reduce instant replay to goaltends or flagrant plays. Hold referees accountable to anyone, period. Do that and the games will be much better. Start calling the game how the rules say to.
Foul and then take 3-4-5 steps and shoot. F*** no!!! That should not be rewarded as an and-1.
I believe you’d also retain the challenge based on my reading of that article.
So in reality the rule would only limit coaches to one “bad” challenge. As long as the coach was smart about which calls he chose to challenge there would effectively be no limit.
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Shame we didn’t review when Whisky scored on a shot clock violation. It couldn’t be reviewed. Same game I am almost sure one of their guys was out of bounds and came back and touched the ball. If we had reviews back in 2015 we might already have number 9. I don’t mind getting the calls right.
If we cut down on the physicality then most likely games will eventually go faster. But the HACK and HOLD like Texas A&M or TN plays, even now Ole miss to a degree and the refs are confused. Do they call it all? or don't call it in the first half but slow it down in the second, or maybe call it in the first and realize you will foul out all the start players if you do not slow down.
Something has to be done, it has become football and supposed to be a free flowing sport.
Something has to be done, it has become football and supposed to be a free flowing sport.
Biggest change I would like to see is being able to add 2 or 3 more regular season games. Want to help the little guys out? Have another buy game or two from the power teams.
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So you want to see more of those boring slogs where a little guy offers itself up as a sacrificial lamb just for the paycheck?
Limit the time of review. If you can’t take a Quick Look and see that it was a bad or missed call, then it stands. 30 seconds is plenty of time.
Since the $$$$$$$ drives everything in sports, i think if you add conference tourney and ncaa tourney the max should be 49 games (MAX) meaning you play regular season, conf tourney has between 3 and 5 games for a team and ncaa is max 6 games.
Reg season should be max 38 games (including early season tourneys). If you play in Maui and have 3 games that leaves you with 35 total games. If you are in any of those early tourneys you cannot over book schedule and have to plan it as you play all the games. It would add just a few more games a year (no exhibition) just start season.
No games against the smaller conferences except early season tourneys. So all 38 games against power 5 (BIG 10, SEC, ACC, BiG 12 and BIG East). Teams will have more regular season losses but TV markets from late October thru will be huge.
Reg season should be max 38 games (including early season tourneys). If you play in Maui and have 3 games that leaves you with 35 total games. If you are in any of those early tourneys you cannot over book schedule and have to plan it as you play all the games. It would add just a few more games a year (no exhibition) just start season.
No games against the smaller conferences except early season tourneys. So all 38 games against power 5 (BIG 10, SEC, ACC, BiG 12 and BIG East). Teams will have more regular season losses but TV markets from late October thru will be huge.
Theoretically of course. How many bad calls have we seen happen to us in the course of a game?
Changing the way officials are compensated and assigned to games and the process of individually holding each official responsible for calls in games is where they need to start. Make them salaried employees and manage this like you would the NBA officials. Or something, anything is better than how it is now, regionally.
as for rules ?
4 quarters? Sure, ok, maybe not this year, next year, fine. (i'm cool with 2 20 minute halves, but it's 4 quarters everywhere else. I say make it go to 4 quarters is fine, I'm 50-50 on it, personally, could live with it either way)
(.... and make it 6 fouls max to foul out though, it's gotta' be raised to 6 in this era, just because I say !)
Coach's challenge ? Sure ! I say give them 2 each ( I can live with Coach Pope having two of those every game.)
Continuation? Well .... ok, but shouldn't you be looking at the "flow of the game" and how all of this flopping is out of control?
whatever.
It's late at night. been a LONG NIGHT.
happy mother's day everyone
Go Big Blue
as for rules ?
4 quarters? Sure, ok, maybe not this year, next year, fine. (i'm cool with 2 20 minute halves, but it's 4 quarters everywhere else. I say make it go to 4 quarters is fine, I'm 50-50 on it, personally, could live with it either way)
(.... and make it 6 fouls max to foul out though, it's gotta' be raised to 6 in this era, just because I say !)
Coach's challenge ? Sure ! I say give them 2 each ( I can live with Coach Pope having two of those every game.)
Continuation? Well .... ok, but shouldn't you be looking at the "flow of the game" and how all of this flopping is out of control?
whatever.
It's late at night. been a LONG NIGHT.
happy mother's day everyone
Go Big Blue
