Big Ten pondering 28-team playoff

18IsTheMan

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It's so ridiculous that someone will be compelled to post trying to defend it as a good idea.

SEC and Big 10 would each get 7 auto bids. No conference title games.

It's obviously absurd. Who wants to see 4 and 5 loss teams in the playoff?
 

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It's so ridiculous that someone will be compelled to post trying to defend it as a good idea.

SEC and Big 10 would each get 7 auto bids. No conference title games.

It's obviously absurd. Who wants to see 4 and 5 loss teams in the playoff?

It's not that absurd.

It would just make it similar to NCAA Basketball and Baseball post seasons.

Do you want to find the team with the best regular season record/sos or the hottest team at the moment. (sometimes it's one in the same)

The idea of finding the absolute best team in the country is a farce.

That would require every team in D1 playing each other along with intricate computer analysis.

Moving further away from the Billionaire Boys Club (given NIL and other advantages) with a move to 16-teams seems like a good idea.

28-Teams is a stretch (esp. scheduling), but I would far prefer that to the 4-team echo chamber we had previously.
 
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It's obviously absurd. Who wants to see 4 and 5 loss teams in the playoff?

A lot of casual sports fans (ie, not hard core college football fans). It will be just like the NCAA basketball tournament where masses of people in every office pool in America will fill out brackets in the hopes of scoring 1st round upsets despite having watched less than 10 regular season games all year. It will be a tremendous TV event watched by huge numbers of casual and semi-casual sports fans who probably can't name the 4 power conferences.
 
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We would have to get rid of one regular season game and/or the title games.

One unintended consequence could be even less inter league play. If we drop an ooc game, and also add a 9th conference game, there aren't going to be too many ooc games against P4 conferences.

Then we have the fighting of our 8-4 teams and whether they should be in over another conferences 9-3 team, with no common opponents.
 

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It's not that absurd.

It would just make it similar to NCAA Basketball and Baseball post seasons.

Do you want to find the team with the best regular season record/sos or the hottest team at the moment. (sometimes it's one in the same)

The idea of finding the absolute best team in the country is a farce.

That would require every team in D1 playing each other along with intricate computer analysis.

Moving further away from the Billionaire Boys Club (given NIL and other advantages) with a move to 16-teams seems like a good idea.

28-Teams is a stretch (esp. scheduling), but I would far prefer that to the 4-team echo chamber we had previously.
As you say, it has to be about the hottest team at tournament time. The best team at week 1 may not be the best team at tournament time.
That's what makes it interesting.
 
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Adding more teams will only let mediocrity creep in. SMU and teams like that have no reason being in the playoffs.
 

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Adding more teams will only let mediocrity creep in. SMU and teams like that have no reason being in the playoffs.
Zero defense that such a playoff format does not diminish the importance of the regular season. When you can lose four or five games… Nearly half of your games… And still make it, the regular season means nothing.
 

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Zero defense that such a playoff format does not diminish the importance of the regular season. When you can lose four or five games… Nearly half of your games… And still make it, the regular season means nothing.


Are we supposed to be impressed that Ohio State spent an estimated $35-40+ million on their team last season (most in D1) to secure the National Championship?

Why not include a few teams that are doing more with less and having great seasons? That seems more impressive than a fat wallet.

Not to mention, any team who wants the championship under this proposed system would have to rip 5 games straight against the best competition in the country.

If a "mediocre" team can pull that off, they deserve the trophy.
 
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It may be fun to witness as a fan, but at some point you have to think about the players. This is not basketball where you can knock out two games a week and get through the entire 68 team playoff in 3 weeks. It would take at least five weeks to get through and cause too much attrition with players that have dreams beyond college football. I think 5 wins is going a little too far to determine a champion. As I have always said, I think 16 teams is the sweet spot for this thing. That would even take an entire month to complete.
 

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It may be fun to witness as a fan, but at some point you have to think about the players. This is not basketball where you can knock out two games a week and get through the entire 68 team playoff in 3 weeks. It would take at least five weeks to get through and cause too much attrition with players that have dreams beyond college football. I think 5 wins is going a little too far to determine a champion. As I have always said, I think 16 teams is the sweet spot for this thing. That would even take an entire month to complete.

The champion in the current set up could play 4 extra games to win the title. Adding one more could be offset by simply eliminating one regular season games, or the now useless conference championship games.

I agree the larger playoffs are going too far, we'll probably end with 8 or 9 game seasons followed by an 8 week playoff schedule.
 

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The champion in the current set up could play 4 extra games to win the title. Adding one more could be offset by simply eliminating one regular season games, or the now useless conference championship games.

I agree the larger playoffs are going too far, we'll probably end with 8 or 9 game seasons followed by an 8 week playoff schedule.
I don't think the fans would stand for a season with only 4 or 5 home games if you didn't make the playoff.

I can see a 12 game regular season, no conference championship games and a four week, 16 team playoff that started two weeks after the last regular season game. I think 16 teams is too many but that is the direction we are going.
 
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Most of you are missing the takeaway,
Under B1G proposal (24 teams)there are 7 slots guaranteed for B1G and SEC schools, the rest are at large. The B1G is clearly attempting to make this the B1G/SEC Invitational to the exclusion of everyone else.
IMHO a very dull, and uninspiring method to determine a true NC.
 

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The four-team playoff preceded by Championship Saturday is going to wind up being the best format in the history of the CFP.
 

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Most of you are missing the takeaway,
Under B1G proposal (24 teams)there are 7 slots guaranteed for B1G and SEC schools, the rest are at large. The B1G is clearly attempting to make this the B1G/SEC Invitational to the exclusion of everyone else.
IMHO a very dull, and uninspiring method to determine a true NC.

I dunno why they feel like they need to guarantee this as there would be at least 7 by default in a 24 or 28 team playoff.

Ideally, they need to take the selection process out of the hands of rubes in general.

Make it computer-based with a few caveats.
 
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The four-team playoff preceded by Championship Saturday is going to wind up being the best format in the history of the CFP.

The four-team echo chamber so you get to watch the same 6-to-8 teams until the end of time? :)

Success begets success.

Year after year, the best recruits naturally gravitate to the best teams.

With the NIL now in full gear, these teams are also be the ones with the most money to spend on recruits. (big attention/big marketing $$$ pull)

It's no coincidence that they started expanding the playoffs once the NIL hit.

The powers-that-be knew how blantantly lopsided the system had become.
 

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The four-team echo chamber so you get to watch the same 6-to-8 teams until the end of time? :)

Success begets success.

Year after year, the best recruits naturally gravitate to the best teams.

With the NIL now in full gear, these teams are also be the ones with the most money to spend on recruits. (big attention/big marketing $$$ pull)

It's no coincidence that they started expanding the playoffs once the NIL hit.

The powers-that-be knew how blantantly lopsided the system had become.
Yeah, it will be much better to watch those 6 to 8 teams bludgeon 10-16 other above average teams for a couple weeks before the real games begin among those 6 to 8 teams to determine who is the national champion.

We saw what happened when TCU managed to get in the championship game against UGA. That will be what we get with the early round games when the top seeded teams get to play the lower seeded teams.
 

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Yeah, it will be much better to watch those 6 to 8 teams bludgeon 10-16 other above average teams for a couple weeks before the real games begin among those 6 to 8 teams to determine who is the national champion.

We saw what happened when TCU managed to get in the championship game against UGA. That will be what we get with the early round games when the top seeded teams get to play the lower seeded teams.

And that's perfectly fine if it goes down that way. An exclusive club with compounding resources over time is not. The bowls have lost their luster. Make post season interesting again for more areas of this country. (if even for just a day)
 

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The four-team echo chamber so you get to watch the same 6-to-8 teams until the end of time? :)

Success begets success.

Year after year, the best recruits naturally gravitate to the best teams.

With the NIL now in full gear, these teams are also be the ones with the most money to spend on recruits. (big attention/big marketing $$$ pull)

It's no coincidence that they started expanding the playoffs once the NIL hit.

The powers-that-be knew how blantantly lopsided the system had become.
Every team got 12 or 13 games to prove its mettle - same as now. The fourth spot was disputed some years but nobody who CLEARLY should have been in there got neglected. All we are in the process of doing is making deserving teams risk injury and expend energy by playing woefully bereft pretenders and diminishing the importance of the regular season in the process. This is profitability ahead of actual progress.
 
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Every team got 12 or 13 games to prove its mettle - same as now. The fourth spot was disputed some years but nobody who CLEARLY should have been in there got neglected. All we are in the process of doing is making deserving teams risk injury and expend energy by playing woefully bereft pretenders and diminishing the importance of the regular season in the process. This is profitability ahead of actual progress.

The 4-team College Football Playoff created a network effect that entrenched a few elite programs, like Alabama and Clemson, as recruiting magnets. The % of top HS recruits navigated to these same teams at a much higher clip during its stay than at any point in history.

Like prominent merchants in a medieval market drawing the best craftsmen, these teams’ frequent playoff appearances—BAMA in 8 of 10 years, gave them unmatched visibility, attracting top recruits in an endless cycle.

This self-reinforcing cycle widened the talent gap and stifled parity every year it was in existence and the numbers back that up. Something had to change even before the NIL was put it place to widen that gap even further.
 

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The 4-team College Football Playoff created a network effect that entrenched a few elite programs, like Alabama and Clemson, as recruiting magnets. The % of top HS recruits navigated to these same teams at a much higher clip during its stay than at any point in history.

Like prominent merchants in a medieval market drawing the best craftsmen, these teams’ frequent playoff appearances—BAMA in 8 of 10 years, gave them unmatched visibility, attracting top recruits in an endless cycle.

This self-reinforcing cycle widened the talent gap and stifled parity every year it was in existence and the numbers back that up. Something had to change even before the NIL was put it place to widen that gap even further.
Why haven't teams like TCU, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Boise State, Arizona State, Indiana, SMU and Washington see huge gains in recruiting after their CFP appearances? Being in the playoff doesn't create recruiting excellence, it is the result of recruiting excellence. Teams like Bama, UGA, Clemson, Ohio State and Oregon recruit well because they work hard at it and know how to attract top players, not because they have been in the playoff. The top teams also have long traditions of winning and being selective in which players they pursue and that attracts top talent as well.

If NIL money was the huge factor in recruiting you seem to think it is, A&M, Texas, OU, USC and Oregon would all be in the playoff every year and would dominate recruiting year in and year out. Texas is the only team in that group to have been in the playoff.

Expanding the playoff so weaker teams that have no hope of winning a championship are let in is the equivalent of a participation trophy. I imagine you would want a banner in the stadium that said "College Football Playoff Participant".
 

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The 4-team College Football Playoff created a network effect that entrenched a few elite programs, like Alabama and Clemson, as recruiting magnets. The % of top HS recruits navigated to these same teams at a much higher clip during its stay than at any point in history.

Like prominent merchants in a medieval market drawing the best craftsmen, these teams’ frequent playoff appearances—BAMA in 8 of 10 years, gave them unmatched visibility, attracting top recruits in an endless cycle.

This self-reinforcing cycle widened the talent gap and stifled parity every year it was in existence and the numbers back that up. Something had to change even before the NIL was put it place to widen that gap even further.
Those champions were derived over a 15-game process. There was no miscarriage of justice. And going forward, the legacy programs are going to be the legacy programs. They'll just have to wade through a little more crap to get to where they're going and the crap gets to feel better about itself.
 

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Those champions were derived over a 15-game process. There was no miscarriage of justice. And going forward, the legacy programs are going to be the legacy programs. They'll just have to wade through a little more crap to get to where they're going and the crap gets to feel better about itself.

I think we're talking about two different things though. You're right that the four-team playoff fairly crowned champions over a 15-game season, but I'm addressing a broader issue: the cumulative advantage it gave legacy programs over time.

The stats gathered during this period were crystal clear -- The four-team CFP created a feedback loop where elite programs (Alabama, Clemson, etc.) gained outsized visibility and pulled in an increasingly disproportionate top recruits versus the rest.

My point isn’t about who won each year but how the system structurally favored a few, making it harder for others to compete long-term. The 12-16, etc. team format may let "crap" teams feel better, but it also aims to disrupt that cycle by giving more programs a shot at the spotlight.
 

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I think we're talking about two different things though. You're right that the four-team playoff fairly crowned champions over a 15-game season, but I'm addressing a broader issue: the cumulative advantage it gave legacy programs over time.

The stats gathered during this period were crystal clear -- The four-team CFP created a feedback loop where elite programs (Alabama, Clemson, etc.) gained outsized visibility and pulled in an increasingly disproportionate top recruits versus the rest.

My point isn’t about who won each year but how the system structurally favored a few, making it harder for others to compete long-term. The 12-16, etc. team format may let "crap" teams feel better, but it also aims to disrupt that cycle by giving more programs a shot at the spotlight.
I understand what you are saying but I don't agree with your premise. You are making an argument for "systemic bias" where none exists.

Every program has the same shot at the spotlight, some decide to work harder or put more resources towards fielding a championship caliber team. Every South Carolina game is on tv and Beamer and his staff have the same amount of time to recruit as every other program. This is true for every P4 team. The top 6-8 teams you have a problem with simply work harder and put more resources towards football. Carolina has become a women's sports school, other schools don't put the same focus on women's sports Carolina does. Athletic departments have to choose their priorities.
 

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Every team got 12 or 13 games to prove its mettle - same as now. The fourth spot was disputed some years but nobody who CLEARLY should have been in there got neglected. All we are in the process of doing is making deserving teams risk injury and expend energy by playing woefully bereft pretenders and diminishing the importance of the regular season in the process. This is profitability ahead of actual progress.
What's happening with the CFP is the same was what happened with bowl games, just at an accelerated rate. The 1960 bowl schedule featured 8 games for D1 teams. That means you had top 25 teams not going bowling. You could have a really good year and not make a bowl. Over time it eroded to include teams who had good years, pretty good years, ok years, and now just flat-out bad years. There have actually been teams with losing records to make bowls. What started out as a reward for a very good season has been degraded to a required bare minimum accomplishment. Making a bowl used to mean you had an excellent season. Now it only means you don't completely suck (and, frankly, that's even completely true any longer).

The CFP is trending down the same path, albeit at a drastically accelerated rate. At its inception, making the 4-team CFP was a badge of honor for an excellent season. Now, with the expanded 12-team CFP, you already have a handful of teams for which making the playoff is considered a minimum accomplishment. With inevitable further expansion it's going to be much like bowls where you're expected to make the CFP most years.
 

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I understand what you are saying but I don't agree with your premise. You are making an argument for "systemic bias" where none exists.

Every program has the same shot at the spotlight, some decide to work harder or put more resources towards fielding a championship caliber team. Every South Carolina game is on tv and Beamer and his staff have the same amount of time to recruit as every other program. This is true for every P4 team. The top 6-8 teams you have a problem with simply work harder and put more resources towards football. Carolina has become a women's sports school, other schools don't put the same focus on women's sports Carolina does. Athletic departments have to choose their priorities.

You need to dig into concept of Network Effects to understand what we are talking about.

There are unfair competitive advantages within the system (4-team playoffs and NIL) which operate outside of everything you've discussed above.
 

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What's happening with the CFP is the same was what happened with bowl games, just at an accelerated rate. The 1960 bowl schedule featured 8 games for D1 teams. That means you had top 25 teams not going bowling. You could have a really good year and not make a bowl. Over time it eroded to include teams who had good years, pretty good years, ok years, and now just flat-out bad years. There have actually been teams with losing records to make bowls. What started out as a reward for a very good season has been degraded to a required bare minimum accomplishment. Making a bowl used to mean you had an excellent season. Now it only means you don't completely suck (and, frankly, that's even completely true any longer).

The CFP is trending down the same path, albeit at a drastically accelerated rate. At its inception, making the 4-team CFP was a badge of honor for an excellent season. Now, with the expanded 12-team CFP, you already have a handful of teams for which making the playoff is considered a minimum accomplishment. With inevitable further expansion it's going to be much like bowls where you're expected to make the CFP most years.

What? If they goto 16-teams, that will only be a fraction of the basketball or baseball post seasons. The drama...
 

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Nick Saban was happy as a clam when the 4-team playoff system was in place and of course he was.

The second the NIL and Playoff expansion arrived, that happiness soured.

Saban didn't want to see teams like A&M and Ole Miss buying the players who would have otherwise naturally gravitated to BAMA -- in part because they were in the playoffs most every year.

He also didn't want the 4-team yearly spotlight getting diluted via Playoff expansion.

And thus, he pitched a fit and retired because of it.

Dabo had basically the same response but far earlier in his career/contract to call it quits.

They had it really good before light finally made it in the room.
 

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You need to dig into concept of Network Effects to understand what we are talking about.

There are unfair competitive advantages within the system (4-team playoffs and NIL) which operate outside of everything you've discussed above.
I understand exactly what you are talking about. There have been and always will be advantages some teams have that others don't, 4 team playoff and NIL not withstanding. The only way there will ever be a truly level playing field would be if college football went full socialist and pooled all revenue from all teams and then divided it evenly among all P4 programs and instituted a draft of HS players with the worst performing P4 teams getting the earliest picks (notice any resemblance to any other football league here?).

How did Clemson, one of the smaller D1 schools in the past, become one of the "haves"? Besides cheating, they focused on building their football program, generally at the expense of some other sports and demanding wins from the coaches they hired. They didn't do anything any other program could not do.

You think the fact Carolina will not commit to building a championship caliber program by doing what Clemson, UGA, Bama, etc. do is somehow because the system is unfair. This is not the case. If Carolina were to make the playoff this season (I don't think that is going to happen), I would be willing to bet that recruiting would not suddenly improve. After the Spurrier glory years, even during those years, Carolina's recruiting did not surge.
You do not want Carolina and programs like Carolina to improve to the point they can make a four team playoff. You want to expand the playoff until it backs up far enough for teams like Carolina to get in.
 

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Nick Saban was happy as a clam when the 4-team playoff system was in place and of course he was.

The second the NIL and Playoff expansion arrived, that happiness soured.

Saban didn't want to see teams like A&M and Ole Miss buying the players who would have otherwise naturally gravitated to BAMA -- in part because they were in the playoffs most every year.

He also didn't want the 4-team yearly spotlight getting diluted via Playoff expansion.

And thus, he pitched a fit and retired because of it.

Dabo had basically the same response.

They had it really good before light finally made it in the room.
Saban retired because of the portal, not NIL. Bama has recruited just fine in the NIL era. Saban didn't pitch any fit, he was very classy about retiring.

Dabo is still at Clemson and is recruiting lights out, at a program with admittedly limited NIL funds. Clemson was back in the playoff last season after missing out in pre NIL years.
 

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I understand exactly what you are talking about. There have been and always will be advantages some teams have that others don't, 4 team playoff and NIL not withstanding. The only way there will ever be a truly level playing field would be if college football went full socialist and pooled all revenue from all teams and then divided it evenly among all P4 programs and instituted a draft of HS players with the worst performing P4 teams getting the earliest picks (notice any resemblance to any other football league here?).

How did Clemson, one of the smaller D1 schools in the past, become one of the "haves"? Besides cheating, they focused on building their football program, generally at the expense of some other sports and demanding wins from the coaches they hired. They didn't do anything any other program could not do.

You think the fact Carolina will not commit to building a championship caliber program by doing what Clemson, UGA, Bama, etc. do is somehow because the system is unfair. This is not the case. If Carolina were to make the playoff this season (I don't think that is going to happen), I would be willing to bet that recruiting would not suddenly improve. After the Spurrier glory years, even during those years, Carolina's recruiting did not surge.
You do not want Carolina and programs like Carolina to improve to the point they can make a four team playoff. You want to expand the playoff until it backs up far enough for teams like Carolina to get in.

You're still missing the point entirely. A big reason why Clemson had their sustained run was because of the 4-team playoff system.

5-star players starting coming to CowTown from all over the globe because they saw them in that echo chamber and realized that Clemson had possibly the easiest path of all to that chamber.
 

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Saban retired because of the portal, not NIL. Bama has recruited just fine in the NIL era. Saban didn't pitch any fit, he was very classy about retiring.

Dabo is still at Clemson and is recruiting lights out, at a program with admittedly limited NIL funds. Clemson was back in the playoff last season after missing out in pre NIL years.

Are you trolling? Saban was one of the most vocal of all about the NIL and not expanding the playoffs. Dabo made a direct stand against the NIL.

They met in Boca Grande after each season to share a laugh about just how good they had it.
 

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You're still missing the point entirely. A big reason why Clemson had their sustained run was because of the 4-team playoff system.

5-star players starting coming to CowTown from all over the globe because they saw them in that echo chamber and realized that Clemson had possibly the easiest path of all to that chamber.
Clemson dominates the ACC and the ACC champ is an automatic qualifier. It wouldn't matter if the playoff was 4 teams, Clemson is getting in.

Clemson built a football power program. Look at their record over the last 30 years, they have had 1 losing season and only two seasons without a bowl appearance. They sell their brand as well as any program in the country. They have a successful program in a nice little town with a pretty campus. I can understand why top players like them. UGA is similar except Athens is a better college town than Clemson and the football team has a great history. Tuscaloosa is a great college town too and there is no denying Bama's football tradition going back long before the CFP even existed.

Look at every program you think the 4 team playoff gave an "unfair advantage" to. They were all already football powers before the playoff existed.
 

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Are you trolling? Saban was one of the most vocal of all about the NIL and not expanding the playoffs. Dabo made a direct stand against the NIL.

They met in Boca Grande after each season to share a laugh about just how good they had it.
Saban didn't want NIL, no coach wanted it, but the portal was the catalyst for him retiring. He didn't want the playoff expanded, neither did I, but he didn't retire because of playoff expansion. If anything, playoff expansion would have ensured that Bama made the playoff every year under Saban. They never finished outside the top ten when he was the coach and the media Bama love would have made sure they were in the playoff every year.

Dabo is another story. He threatened to quit if players were paid, he was blowing smoke. He isn't going to quit no matter what happens, he's too much of an ego maniac "look at me" type man. I imagine he is a fan of playoff expansion. He knows Clemson will never be worse than ACC runner up and will always get in.
 

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Saban didn't want NIL, no coach wanted it, but the portal was the catalyst for him retiring. He didn't want the playoff expanded, neither did I, but he didn't retire because of playoff expansion. If anything, playoff expansion would have ensured that Bama made the playoff every year under Saban. They never finished outside the top ten when he was the coach and the media Bama love would have made sure they were in the playoff every year.

Dabo is another story. He threatened to quit if players were paid, he was blowing smoke. He isn't going to quit no matter what happens, he's too much of an ego maniac "look at me" type man. I imagine he is a fan of playoff expansion. He knows Clemson will never be worse than ACC runner up and will always get in.

You're shifting the discussion. Saban/Dabo were examples and you can believe what you want -- but they were obviously both trying to protect what they had. The main point is about Network Effects and an unfair 4-team playoff system.
 

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We have to get rid of the Conference Championships. Doing the math, in the current playoff system. The loser of either the SEC or Big Ten Championship would have to play a total of 16 games to win or compete for the National Championship.
 

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I think we're talking about two different things though. You're right that the four-team playoff fairly crowned champions over a 15-game season, but I'm addressing a broader issue: the cumulative advantage it gave legacy programs over time.

The stats gathered during this period were crystal clear -- The four-team CFP created a feedback loop where elite programs (Alabama, Clemson, etc.) gained outsized visibility and pulled in an increasingly disproportionate top recruits versus the rest.

My point isn’t about who won each year but how the system structurally favored a few, making it harder for others to compete long-term. The 12-16, etc. team format may let "crap" teams feel better, but it also aims to disrupt that cycle by giving more programs a shot at the spotlight.
Any cumulative advantage that they attained, the earned. Parity isn't a right.
 

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Any cumulative advantage that they attained, the earned. Parity isn't a right.

The system which serves everyone cannot itself foster the gap between the haves and have-nots.

It's along the same lines as why Antitrust laws exist -- to promote fair play and prevent monopolies.