Biggest ref pet peeve?

[Destroyou_rivals378558]

Officials rarely call these four things correctly...

1. A defender is standing legally in his vertical cone, not arching over the defender in the slightest, and is not sliding, and the offensive player dives into him. Officials call this a foul about 70% of the time, especially when the offensive player flails.

2. An offensive player pump fakes to get a defender in the air, and then dives into him, which should be an offensive foul, but is usually called a defensive foul and/or no call.

3. The offensive leg kick out on jumpers and they trip defenders and fall down, officials call this for offense 60/40.

4. The offensive player drives into the lane, and clears out a defenders hands with their forearm, usually getting a defensive foul called.

General things....
Officials call reactions, not actual contact (A clean all ball block by willie gets called a foul because the guy flips and lands hard, and they look at monitor???!?!?!?)

Officials who do over the top gestures which play to the crowd (works for us in NCAA but still dumb). Every time I see the sprint 30 yards and point to the opposite end on an offensive foul, I know the officials are going to suck.

Apologize for the rant

 

[Aike]

Agreed. Has always bothered me when someone is rewarded for initiating contact, especially when a 6 foot guard jumps into a 7 footer.

 

[kat57]

Refs have no common sense!!!

 

[Waterview Catfan]

Showboating and\or playing to the crowd.

 

[BlueCat43]

Being an unathletic, smart player who can only play position defense, #1 is one of the worst for me. Good fundamental defense is rarely rewarded anymore.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Without a doubt, an idiot who is nowhere in position to make a call, making a call.

 

[Catzman]

My biggest pet peeve in football and basketball alIke is when the ref right next to the play calls nothing but a ref on the opposite side of the court or field makes a call. In what world does a guy 50 feet away see something the guy 3 feet away doesnt

 

[Blueblood410]

Anticipating a foul instead of reacting.

Jumping around on one leg and/or running all the way to center court to make your call.

 

[jrm693]

Originally posted by Destroyou:
Officials rarely call these four things correctly...

1. A defender is standing legally in his vertical cone, not arching over the defender in the slightest, and is not sliding, and the offensive player dives into him. Officials call this a foul about 70% of the time, especially when the offensive player flails.

2. An offensive player pump fakes to get a defender in the air, and then dives into him, which should be an offensive foul, but is usually called a defensive foul and/or no call.

3. The offensive leg kick out on jumpers and they trip defenders and fall down, officials call this for offense 60/40.

4. The offensive player drives into the lane, and clears out a defenders hands with their forearm, usually getting a defensive foul called.

General things....
Officials call reactions, not actual contact (A clean all ball block by willie gets called a foul because the guy flips and lands hard, and they look at monitor???!?!?!?)

Officials who do over the top gestures which play to the crowd (works for us in NCAA but still dumb). Every time I see the sprint 30 yards and point to the opposite end on an offensive foul, I know the officials are going to suck.

Apologize for the rant

And again I will step up on my soapbox and say it can be stopped just let each coach have what they have in college football and that is two challenges. May the refs go back and review it and if coaches miss it twice in a row they are penalized with the other team shooting could shots plus ball out of bounds. If LSU could have challenged the other night they would have been playing Villanova yesterday as NC State clearly went over back to tip one in, and then on the game winner next time down they tipped ball in while it was clearly on the rim. These kids work all year and then get beat by a bogus call it is not right. The referees are human and it is a fast paced game and they get caught up in the emotion but to many calls are incorrect. My pet peeve is the and 1 but thats another story.....

 

[dvillecatfan]

Originally posted by Catzman:
My biggest pet peeve in football and basketball alIke is when the ref right next to the play calls nothing but a ref on the opposite side of the court or field makes a call.

this!!

 

[buckkiller]

Originally posted by Catzman:
My biggest pet peeve in football and basketball alIke is when the ref right next to the play calls nothing but a ref on the opposite side of the court or field makes a call. In what world does a guy 50 feet away see something the guy 3 feet away doesnt

Yup I just said pretty much same thing in another thread.

 

[uky8unc5]

I'll be the idiot and disagree to this extent: Unless you carried the whistle and did it at a high level, you just can't appreciate how impossible their job is.

As I tell my buddies...the guys on TV are the best there is. They call the game as they are instructed. So either the SEC and other conferences (who employ them) are brain-dead boobs or there must be something missing in the conclusion of critics.

 

[Trublupopeye]

Destroyou, you are exactly right. No.1 on your list is the sole reason this tournament is guard dominated. There has to be something done about this. I wish our coach's would teach the bigs to side step these guards and block the ball from the side. If you remember Anthony Davis was really good at this. L-ville are masters at this and it's how they have won alot of games these past few years.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Slow-mo travel signal. Prima Donna.

 

[Smyrna_Cat_rivals377937]

Inconsistency ... bang, bang, bang, bang, push, bag, hack ... tiny touch - FOUL!

 

[Glenn's Take]

When at the end of the game they don't want to decide a game by making a call that would have been made in the middle of the game. By not making the call and not wanting to decide the game, they don't do their job and enforce the rules and they end up deciding the game.

 

[Runt#1969]

Travelling call :

One of my increasing pet peeves is this jump-step process players are allowed to have when they receive the inbounds passes or come to meet the ball when it gets passed to them. Often, and maybe it's just me, but MORE AND MORE these guys are taking a jump step, then moving the pivot foot yet AGAIN even after they've established the other foot. It's frustrating watching it happen on an almost game by game basis these days. It's a travel when they make that motion.

In fact, travelling seems to be a call they only make 50% of the time these days. It happens far more often than they call it at any rate.

Official on other side of court makes the call :

I can understand how some have as their pet-peeve an official standing on the other side of the court making a call where the one standing right next to where the foul/infraction is does not make the call. But they get it right, too. It's not just because they're so far away it de-legitimizes anything.

Case in point : yesterday one of the players for Cinci (Ellis, late in the second half) travelled after getting the ball off a rebound. The other official on the other side of the floor made the (correct) call while the one standing right next to the area less than 5 feet away blew it.

Now, I understand how the criticism is HOW the official WAYYYY over there can make the call, but what this points to is a lack of quality officiating at best, or at worst, incompetence. Maybe the actual truth lies somewhere in between. It's at the heart of the issue for officials which is INCONSISTENCY.

Inconsistency :

This is the biggest issue for me. I've said it before in threads here over the years. The only way we get any uniform officiating is to make the officials paid employees where we have quality control and they are made accountable to a governing employer (The NCAA). It's time, long overdue, and the only way to get the officials to simply make the calls that are already on the books.

We don't need massive rules changes adding or subtracting from what is already on the books to make the game better, or at the very least, get it to what should already be (at least according to the rules).

But again, as the state of the game is now, we've got some wildly inconsistent officials doing games, and they worst thing is that they're called the best. They're not. NO.

You got "experienced" officials that let games get out of control with the trash talking and overtly physical play that leads to overflowing emotions and that lies purely on the officials for not making harsh calls early in a game when that is the modus operandi of certain players/teams/coaches in these games.

Then you got the officials that let the big guys do as much pushing and shoving they want to, with letting the little guys slap/hack/grab and generally allow them to bang up on the big guys without any fouls called. Yet, the big guys aren't allowed anywhere near the physicality when going against the little guys.

Sure, I know it's "always been that way" but that's not how it should be called is my point. And I'm right.

The classic allowing overly physical play to continue on on end of the court and then, suddenly on the other end, calling ticky tack "touch" fouls is the most egregious officiating in my book. Add to that fact that when they get rabbit ears (yes, I'm thinking of you, Doug Shows) and the officials listen to the legit complaints of the coaches, sometimes they suddenly COMPLETELY change how they call and flip the script totally.

One side is getting away with too much physicality, then the next moment, they're not allowing ANY physical contact, mainly because the other coach started bitching and griping or called a timeout to vent on an official.

There's been PLENTY of that in the tournament this year, everywhere.

So for those of you that simply want tosay the officials have a tough hard job and not get on their case, so be it. It doesn't mean the officiating has FOR MANY YEARS been on a giant slide downward, right along with the college basketball as a whole.

Ignore it all you want but the two go hand in hand. Something needs to be done. That something is paying them a salary, stopping all the contract work and making them become responsible and accountable for the work they put in. Then and only then can we have a uniform method to control how games get called and get some consistency.

 

[Kats23]

Becoming part of the game is number 1.
Also, when the refs just let the coaches roam about the entire sideline. Yesterday was the worst I had seen in a long time. UC's interim head coach was past the 3 point line and in the corner and held up play. He was warned more than once and the refs did nothing.

 

[kghighroller]

Mine is when a driving player gets bumped on the shot and the ref calls a foul late. I see the refs wait to call a foul after seeing if the ball goes in or not on these plays. If it goes in no foul. If it's a miss its a late called foul.

 

[kyjeff1]

I agree with everything the OP posted. I will add to it with 2 things:
1) similar to #1 I hate how it is a foul on the defender when a guy drives the lane and jumps sideways into the defender. This was a tactic utilized by a lot of SEC teams this year and it's bs.

2) I'm sorry but how can you not tell the difference between a flop and a real offensive foul? Come on, some of these flops are so obvious. Chris Jones should have received a technical foul for his acting job when he caused the game to be delayed when he faked getting hit in the jaw.

Also, Jim Burr needs to retire, he can't see and he's too out of shape to keep up. A few years ago he missed a call where a guy was laying on the floor with the ball and his body 3' out of bounds. He was standing 3' away looking right at the kid. What a joke.

 

[akers65]

The showboat ref
The far side ref making a call on a play which is in front of another ref
allowing wrestling in the paint but no touch everywhere else or sometimes vice versa

Not telling Coach K to shut the heck up and coach your team, since the game hasn't started yet

 

[KingOfBBN]

My main one has already been brought up.

1. The animated showboating from a ref when he calls a foul especially a charge to get the crowd riled up. Call the play and STHU. No one is here to watch you.

2. Tiny touch fouls .A classic example is the UC Irvine/Louisville game. What kind of crap ref calls a foul 90 ft away from the basket as a player is completely trapped and falling out of bounds, to decide a NCAA tournament game.A lot of these supposed fouls would never even be called in pick-up games. That's my issue.

3. This one is a huge problem in basketball...THE ANTICIPATION foul. Ref thinks a player will likely foul and ignores the awesome block from behind cause he suspects a foul will occur.

4. Someone please, explain how an offensive player contorting his body to jump into a defender is a foul on the defensive player? Explain that? If the defensive player wasn't the one that caused the impact then why is he penalized? Call it on the offensive player.

 

[K-Town Kat]

It's getting to the point where the travel is fading out. One could point out 20/game that go uncalled. A lot of the time it's a player receiving a pass and then shuffling his feet before initiating a dribble to create extra space. That's a walk. AAU has made it worse in regards to allowing these kids to be very liberal with their footwork so I think officials have decided to just let it slide to avoid calling a bunch of travels and affecting flow, but it doesn't make it less of a walk.

 

[gossie21_rivals69805]

Pat Adams. His very existence is a pet peeve of mine.
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[FutureCityCats_rivals]

Havn't read the thread, but getting all animated when making a call. As soon as I see that, I know we are in trouble. Also, anticipating contact, so blowing the whistle when nothing happens. Being blocked on a play, but blowing the whistle anyway. FCC.

 

[Big Blue 1977]

Trying to "keep it even" when one team is clearly superior in terms of skill, size, and athleticism.

 

[Cats_2010]

Originally posted by jrm693:

And again I will step up on my soapbox and say it can be stopped just let each coach have what they have in college football and that is two challenges. May the refs go back and review it and if coaches miss it twice in a row they are penalized with the other team shooting could shots plus ball out of bounds. If LSU could have challenged the other night they would have been playing Villanova yesterday as NC State clearly went over back to tip one in, and then on the game winner next time down they tipped ball in while it was clearly on the rim. These kids work all year and then get beat by a bogus call it is not right. The referees are human and it is a fast paced game and they get caught up in the emotion but to many calls are incorrect. My pet peeve is the and 1 but thats another story.....

Not sure you could have picked two worst examples to make your point. 1) over the back that did not get called was not over the back. The offensive player jumped straight up and tipped the ball up high before the defensive player could even get his hands up to the ball. Just because a player does not have position does not mean they go over the back. Willie gets rebounds over his defender like this every game. 2) every replay clearly shows the player DID NOT tip the ball at all while it was on the rim. Actually a great play as he easily could have but pulled his hand back just at the right moment. He came within 3-4 inches of the ball at most but no closer.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Originally posted by uky8unc5:
I'll be the idiot and disagree to this extent: Unless you carried the whistle and did it at a high level, you just can't appreciate how impossible their job is.

As I tell my buddies...the guys on TV are the best there is. They call the game as they are instructed. So either the SEC and other conferences (who employ them) are brain-dead boobs or there must be something missing in the conclusion of critics.

Agreed. Had a good friend who was a college referee and we talked about his job quite a bit. What most people (especially those who never played the game at a fairly high level) don't realize is just how fast todays game is. Even in the half court offense, if you're a 6' ref and 10 guys are running around and half of them are probably over 6'8" it's hard to see and/or keep up. Then take into consideration that many times your view is blocked or you're looking at one area of the court and something happens just to the left or right that you don't see. Overall I think the refs do OK. It's an impossible job. Biggest problem to me is that some refs let you play and others don't. That's where the coach and the players have to adjust to how the game is being called.

 

[K-Town Kat]

While I agree it's a very tough job, I stick to my pet peeve over the travel.

Just because the players are tall is no reason to let players do the tango with the ball when not dribbling.

 

[Destroyou_rivals378558]

But the thing about tough jobs is, they are do-able. If those currently in the position are not suited, find someone more qualified... But wait, we can't do that as refs have no legislative body, except in the NCAA tournament bracket advance style. But as the movie "Waiting" said... "That's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome."

 

[buckkiller]

Another crap foul on Valentine.

 

[Kats23]

Originally posted by uky8unc5:
I'll be the idiot and disagree to this extent: Unless you carried the whistle and did it at a high level, you just can't appreciate how impossible their job is.

As I tell my buddies...the guys on TV are the best there is. They call the game as they are instructed. So either the SEC and other conferences (who employ them) are brain-dead boobs or there must be something missing in the conclusion of critics.

I'll agree it's a hard job.its why I've been advocating for more officials for some time due to the speed of the game. Make this a profession not a second job, make them take offseason clases, agility and endurance classes that they have to pass to continue to officiate. Officting has been downright dreadful the past 3 years.

 

[GonzoCat90]

A lot of the good ones have been mentioned, so I'll just add one I haven't seen yet.

Moving screens. Do they exist anymore on anyone besides Dakari Johnson?

People complain that the game has turned into football, yet they allow constant laying on each other by both the offense and the defense. If you're taller than 6'5, on 85% of teams in the country, you're in perpetual contact with the opponent as you run a giant inverted parabola for 40 minutes, and it gets called MAYBE once every four games.