Bill Curry ?

Poetax

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Just to show you how bad my thought process was, I said back then that we would never have years like the Curry years in the future. Oops.
 

NavyCat88

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Three words: "Black Watch Defense". Curry's creation based on terminology he learned after taking a vacation to England. Exemplified his knowledge as a Head Coach.

I think he started the "black watch" at Tech based on the elite Scottish military unit that wears dark (black) tartans (3BN SCOTS). I remember the black "GT" on the defenders' helmets. I liked Coach Curry as a former player and he seemed to be a real a gentleman from the old school. He wasn't up to the UK challenges without a whooooole bunch of financial support from the admin for facilities, staff, etc. No support was forthcoming....the Cat's didn't win.

Finally, he recruited some memorable players that are some of my favorites. Couch of course, Marty Moore LB (just take a knee Marty), and Moe Williams (an absolute beast and one of my all time favorite backs at UK).
 

JC CATS

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Since I did not follow the football cats back then , What is the story with him ? Why did the whole thing blow up ? Was it recruiting , bad luck , or was he simply over-rated before he came to U.K. ? Could have been a combination of things I guess.................
Whew! I thought you were going to suggest we rehire him! :)
 

KY1WING

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He also hired a coach with a system who kept Tim Couch at UK and brought excitement and hope to the program that resulted in a stadium expansion.
 
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Stenchymouse

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He tried to install a power run offense with a lot of option looks and we didn't really have the lines for it. Moe up the middle was as common as "on the toss". I was still in Middle school but I remember going to the peach bowl which was his best team at 6-6. He finished with an over record of 26-52. His major sin of course was recruiting Tim Couch and then putting him in against Florida for his first career start and then asking him to run the option.
Yep, he tried to overpower other SEC teams...

Shockingly stupid!!
 

sluggercatfan

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Since I did not follow the football cats back then , What is the story with him ? Why did the whole thing blow up ? Was it recruiting , bad luck , or was he simply over-rated before he came to U.K. ? Could have been a combination of things I guess.................
Let's put it this way...he brings in Tim Couch and hires an OC who runs an option attack. You figure it out:football::football::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::scream::sunglasses:
 

reylas

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Trent Digurro was cowardly murdered by a panty-waste psychopath from Frankfort...

That's right. Remember the show now. It was one of those 60 minute type specials. Said the team never fully recovered from that incident and it was the beginning of the end. No way to turn it around after that.
 

sluggercatfan

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He also hired a coach with a system who kept Tim Couch at UK and brought excitement and hope to the program that resulted in a stadium expansion.
I don't know what you're talking about dude... From some first-hand knowledge if Bill Curry would have stayed at Kentucky Tim Couch would have finished his career at the University of Tennessee
 

eku69

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I think people sensationalize former coaches. Let's take Claiborne for example. He peaked in year 3 and went downhill from there. He won 5 SEC games combined in his first 3 years and won 5 SEC games combined in his last 3 years. He won 3 games against teams who didn't have a losing record in his last 3 years: Central Michigan, Georgia and Indiana. Curry won 3 games against teams that didn't have a losing record in his last 3 years: LSU, Cincinnati and Louisville. Stoops has won 2: Ohio University and South Carolina.

I'm not saying Claiborne wasn't a great leader for the program, but when you take a step back and really look at the results, it can paint a different picture of what people want to remember.
Too bad the Cats didn't hire Claiborne when he was in his prime. If I remember correctly, they could have had him, but chose Charlie Bradshaw instead.
 
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ukalum1988

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I don't know what you're talking about dude... From some first-hand knowledge if Bill Curry would have stayed at Kentucky Tim Couch would have finished his career at the University of Tennessee
He must be thinking of Hal Dummy.
 

trueblujr

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Dec 14, 2005
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This era destroyed modern-day Kentucky football and we are still suffering from it 25 years later. The absolute neglect for the football program coincided with the rise of SEC dominance in football and huge television contracts.
Every human being making decisions for football during this time period should have an asterisk put next to their name.

We of course followed this absolute **** show with a gimmick: a defenseless glorified high-school coach that promptly got us put on probation.

To get an idea of what the Curry years were like see: Stoops, Mark. Watch the second half of the Southern Miss and the entire Florida game. Then go watch some Curry debacles like 73-7 loss to Florida or 65-0 loss to Florida etc. etc. etc.

It honestly makes me wonder if any of the buffoons still wondering if Stoops can get it done here ever sat through a damned minute of it.

I sat through every game of the Bill Curry era, it's partly why I'm sticking through the current debacle. I've been going to games since the late 70's when my dad would take me as a kid. Win or lose I'm blue to the core so I'll piss and moan about the current state of affairs, but will compose my self enough on Saturdays to be optomistic they'll turn the corner at some point in my lifetime.
 

ZakkW

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Dude was a disaster-others have mentioned he was a CEO type who needed high-quality assistants. How in the hell he wasn't fired after the 1994 season is an all-time mystery. That season saw 50-60 point beatdowns, Joker-like attendance and a loss to NE Louisiana in its first season as D-IA. An absolute disaster in every single aspect and not only wasn't he booted out of here, he coached for TWO more lame-duck seasons thanks to Clown M. Newton.
 

Beatle Bum

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Sep 1, 2002
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For a former center, you would think Curry would have an offensive philosophy. He evidently did not, which would have been fine had Bowden been his OC for years. But, Bill had rotating OCs with various philosophies that rarely fit the personnel.
 

Beatle Bum

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Curry burned a kids redshirt last game of his last season against Tenn. he already knew he was fired but did it anyway. POS in my book

Definitely a POS move. Haley played just a few snaps in that game. Uzelac was probably the instigator of that move, but Curry gets the blame as HC.
 

Cats_2010

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Bill curry was a stubborn football couch who insisted on having couch run the option. I remember a year or two after his dismissal and mumme's arrival curry was a TV commentator for one of our games. Couch was having one of his games slinging for 400 yards and multiple TD's and do not remember the opponent but UK was winning easily. Curry chimes in with "I still believe to be a successful football team, you have to be able to run the ball"
 

John Henry

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The Black Watch came from the Scottish Guard. UK football had no basis for copying anything from a Scottish warrior. They are not even close. A Scottish warrior would die before throwing in the towel. Our football team has thrown in the towel after the first fist in their helmet for about 50 years. We are weak and puny compared to the Scottish Guard and that was a bad idea Bill Curry.
 

trueblujr

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Bill curry was a stubborn football couch who insisted on having couch run the option. I remember a year or two after his dismissal and mumme's arrival curry was a TV commentator for one of our games. Couch was having one of his games slinging for 400 yards and multiple TD's and do not remember the opponent but UK was winning easily. Curry chimes in with "I still believe to be a successful football team, you have to be able to run the ball"

At the time I had always thought Curry would have been a better AD than football coach. He just seemed to be the more Administrative type. Of course the landscape of college athletics has changed so much these days I don't think he would fit the mold anymore.
 

eku69

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Definitely a POS move. Haley played just a few snaps in that game. Uzelac was probably the instigator of that move, but Curry gets the blame as HC.
I remember this. Curry said the player and his parents were OK with it. Sounded fishy to me.
 

childe

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Feb 1, 2006
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At the time I had always thought Curry would have been a better AD than football coach. He just seemed to be the more Administrative type. Of course the landscape of college athletics has changed so much these days I don't think he would fit the mold anymore.

I agree. And if we had a former football coach or player as AD 20 years ago, basketball would still be great. But football would be in a lot better shape than it is now.
 

jauk11

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Dec 6, 2006
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Decent coach, but he was a "delegate" type of HC that pretty much let the OC and DC run the show. Problem was, C.M. ham-strung him with a very low budget for coordinators and assistants so he was never able to get good assistants or retain the ones he hired.

Hmmm>

Sound familiar? Anyone remember mitch having Joker make Brown the "Co" DC in order to save his buyout, or having Brooks give part of his salary to Joker when he had other offers?

Even that wasn't nearly as bad as the "recruiting room" that made a lie of every coach's claim that we weren't just a "basketball" school, fortunately that didn't stop Tee, he just lied to them and made sure they didn't see the "recruiting room".. Alas, most of the SEC teams that recruited against us had pictures of it, we did luck out that a lot of the minor conferences coaches didn't though.
 

ukwazoo

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I was at the game where couch was running the option. I was at all the UF beatdowns. Curry was awful, but the higher ups let him be awful for a long time.
 

jauk11

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Bill Curry was ACC Coach of the Year in 1985 at Georgia Tech and SEC Coach of the Year in 1987 and 1989 at Alabama. The only thing he could do here is promise to work and practice harder after every blowout.

Georgia Tech had a dismal record when he took over, they won the NC with some of his players three years after he left. Bama not doing well when he took over, they lost ONE regular season game his last year there------to Auburn, that had a great coach and run during that time, IIRC.

Bama also won a NC three years after he left, coincidence or what?

UK's football program has had disgraceful support for decades, none worse than under mitch his first ten years, made doubly (or triply) bad by the emergence of football as the real money cow, AND the SEC as the best conference in America.

Now, because there are literally millions to be thrown away because of the last sentence mitch is doing just that. Not only his spending but his attitude cost UK millions in attendance (and still is), his toilet paper contract with BCG another couple million, and this contract could make those mistakes look good in comparison.