I haven't really followed his ongoing health problems, but I just learned how extensive they are. Multiple heart surgeries and hospitalizations. Why is he still coaching? It is a very stressful job, and I can't imagine his doctors haven't advised him from continuing. Athletes, coaches and Hollywood types just can't give up the limelight it seems. Your health is more important than anything.
Bill Self's health issues
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He could've made bad investments and be broke. Who knows. I do also find it strange.
With NIL, there are overlapping generations of guys accused, convicted or at least suspected of battering girlfriends, wives, coeds or random women to be recruited. It's too tempting for Self to call it quits now.
As you usual you deliver on Kansas basketball!!
Many donāt want to give up jobs professions they love. I wouldnāt either. That said, for health one has to make a wise decision.
Kind of like smokers, you know it's going to kill you, but they just have to do it. Sorry for his health problems, hope he can recover and live for a while, no matter his path.
Exactly, I know smoking will kill me but itās so hard to stop.
Quitting nicotine was one of the hardest things, maybe the hardest, I've ever done. It's definitely a mind altering drug too. My brain hasn't functioned the same since I quit; I swear it had to rewire itself. In the old days, give me caffeine, THC, and nicotine and **** got done. It's different now.
Anyway, Self should take care of himself.
Almost like sex, you spend 9 months waiting to get out then spend most of the rest of your life trying to get back in!!!
He could need to keep working to keep the bail fund full, lol.
This. He may genuinely love what he does. But man, he's got millions. Hang it up. Go coach a junior league somewhere i you want to still coach.
No job is worth your life especially if you have the means to just enjoy it.
Yeah, I had to try and stop Xanax, Opana, and cigarettes all at once. Talk about re-wiring of the brain.
Yikes. Glad I had my caffeine and THC. Cannabis really helped while I was quitting.
I smoked daily quite a bit for about 18 years. Stopped when my other habits picked up bad. Never really started again. I like edibles but ever since I lost my tolerence and have gotten older I get really anxious and noid now for some reason.
I had 3 really bad seizures trying to quit, the last one almost killed me. I havenāt been the same since neurologically. I have really bad unsteady hands and random things where I can tell it hurt the way my body reacts to stuff.
Never was a smoker and never could understand why someone could put something lit by a match into their mouths. But, I have heard so many people say once you smoke it is so tough to stop so I kind of understand the addiction. My father smoked but quit cold turkey when his bother (a very heavy smoker) died from a combination of emphysema and brain cancer which doctors attributed to his heavy smoking. That was what it took for my dad to quit on the spot.
I grew up in a house full of smokers, seamed like everyone in Kentucky smoked. You hardly ever see people here in Utah smoke. Probably more Mary Jane smokers then cigareeet's
Never thought I would see the day Mary Jane would be legal in Utah.
Multiple heart surgeries? The only issues I know about is the fact that he has had a couple of stents placed in his arteries. If that is the only problems he has had, he can live a normal life with a normal life span. He is , I am sure, taking cholesterol lowering drugs. I don't care for Kansas at all but have to admit that Self is an excellent coach.
With NIL old college players who couldnāt make the NBA want to keep playing college till they retire. I guess they learned it from their coaches.
I've tried pot, smoking, pipe, tobacco, and couldn't get addicted to any of them. Not that I was trying to get addicted, just don't see the appeal. I'll try most things once. Even drinking, I'll buy a six pack, open a bottle, drink half of it, and then stick it back in the fridge until it either walks away on its own or my husband removes it.
Itās possible to quit for sure. Itās just difficult. Itās hard because when you do something repetitive for decades after you eat, when you drive, inside, outside. You have the hand to mouth addiction, nervousness that it helps, not to mention the nicotine addiction for your body.
Seizures from quitting tobacco? Wow, but tobacco isn't a drug...
I grew up in a house full of smokers, seamed like everyone in Kentucky smoked. You hardly ever see people here in Utah smoke. Probably more Mary Jane smokers then cigareeet's
Never thought I would see the day Mary Jane would be legal in Utah.
I noticed all the smokers again when I came back to care for my mom. I'd almost forgotten people smoked. I would never have believed Utah would allow medical cannabis.
This thread made me want to smoke a joint and have a cup of coffee. Getting old is hell.
No seizures from quitting Xanax and Opana at the same time. I tried to quit smoking too at the same time and that didnāt work well. Benzodiazepines cause massive seizures if you quit cold turkey, some opiates can as well. Both at the same time was a death wish.
Man, you know what else is hard? Missing out on your kid's lives. Your Grandkids lives. Leaving your loved ones to bury you in the ash that you created with your selfish habit. My Dad died of lung cancer and it had spread to his whole body. For years we begged him to stop. I offered to pay him a monthly allowance to stop. I yelled at him some days and I cried and pleaded other days. He said he enjoyed it too much.
His last days found him to weigh only 117 lbs. He was yellow as a fish. Sepsis. His mind was cooked and he writhed in pain from the cancer and begged to die. His last 3 days he was a zombie and when he finally died he was unrecognizable to everyone that loved him. Closed casket was our only option. He never got to see my kids grow up. He has missed countless ballgames and family events. He won't see his granddaughter in her wedding dress or his grandson off to college.
I always come off like a butthole when I talk about smoking but I can't help it. It's the single most selfish and weak act that a person can do. If you say it's too hard you're basically saying your family isn't worth the effort.
Itās easy to say when you are the one without the addiction. When you have a true addiction you can come back and talk to me about things like this and how easy it should be. You also need to understand the most important thing. Itās up to the person who is addicted to stop. No amount of begging, pleading, payments, rewards, or anything you can think of will ever change that fact.
I am truly sorry that you lived thru that and experienced his pain. I wish he could have stopped for you and your families sake, and for his own. I could also go out and drive today and get killed due to being on a cell phone. Is that not the same level of selfishness? Did my daily act of not paying attention not take me away even earlier?
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How do you know that I've never had any addictions?
Everything else you're saying is typical smoker rebuttal. I've heard it a thousand times, it's human nature to try and justify one's behavior. At the end of the day you know it's bunk. You know that smoking is the number 1 preventable cause of death in the country. You know I'm right. But you are also right when you say that in order to quit the person themselves has to want to quit. What exactly will it take for you to want to quit? I know it's hard, but I don't care that it's hard. A person can do it if they want to. Almost all smokers have one thing in common, they want to quit. But they are too weak to follow through. My mom, she quit in the 90s. It wasn't easy at all. But she said her family was worth it.
Is there a record number of of wins, games played, league championships, etc that he is close to achieving? I could see that being a big motivator, "leaving your mark in the history books". Maybe he doesn't realize it would be in his better SELF Interest to quit while he can...
Addicts are, were and always will be the ultimate excuse makers. Itās part of the disease and youāll never move past it until you move past the excuses.
most people with addiction, of any kind, are dual diagnosed with mental health issues. it is not an excuse but a dangerous combination. just wanting to quit may not be enough to someone who cannot actually make a sound decision.
Some people think that if they stop working they will be closer to death. They see work as the thing that gives them purpose.
I was in Chicago on business. Self was at Illinois. He stated in a group that he was happy there and the only dream job he wanted and leave for was UK. Didnāt go over well either the Illini alums. I always thought he might end up at UK.
Because if you had you would talk a lot different. You talk just like someone who never has been addicted to anything. I donāt wanna keep this going though in a thread now about it so have a good one.
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I think it may be a case of toxic residue in that toupee glue.
I would love to call into his radio show, assuming he has one & pretend to the screener i have a question about the team, when I go on live i ask him where he got his rug sewn on at? 
Yeah we don't need to hijack the thread. But you don't know me. I could be a recovering crackhead for all you know, so don't presume that you know my addiction history. We are all addicted to something at some point.
I hope you go on to live to be 120 years old and happy. Dump the cigs man. Find the strength. I promise the juice is worth the squeeze.
Self wanted to retire a few seasons ago but the players have been holding him at gunpoint forcing him to coach.