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BMW adding 1,000 jobs at South Carolina plant
  • BMW will add 1,000 jobs and invest $600 million in its plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
  • The investments will boost annual production to as many as 450,000 vehicles.
  • The facility is already the company's largest final assembly plant in the world and had employed more than 9,000.
 
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Trump reportedly calls Germans ‘very bad,’ threatens to end German car sales
"The Germans are bad, very bad," Trump said, according to participants in the room who spoke to Der Spiegel.
"See the millions of cars they sell in the U.S., terrible. We will stop this."
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/26/trum...hreatens-to-end-german-car-sales-reports.html
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BMW invested in that plant to appease Trump. They are very worried about NAFTA since they plan to build a Mexican plant in 2019. They fear a border tax. So in their meeting with Trump recently, they talked about the South Carolina plant and their plans for expansion. Jaw boning works. It worked for JFK and it is working for Trump.
 
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WVPATX said:
BMW invested in that plant to appease Trump. They are very worried about NAFTA since they plan to build a Mexican plant in 2019. They fear a border tax. So in their meeting with Trump recently, they talked about the South Carolina plant and their plans for expansion. Jaw boning works. It worked for JFK and it is working for Trump.
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Okey dokey [eyeroll]
 
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Jaw boning works.
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One of these days, our liberal pals are going to grasp how Trump works these deals. For now, they simply read his one liners, and are totally clueless as to how he's setting them up for future deals. Perhaps they should invest in The Art of the Deal.

#StillWinning
 
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MichiganHerd said:
One of these days, our liberal pals are going to grasp how Trump works these deals. For now, they simply read his one liners, and are totally clueless as to how he's setting them up for future deals. Perhaps they should invest in The Art of the Deal.

#StillWinning
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Be easy on our left leaning friends today. They have a lot to take in.
 
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MichiganHerd said:
One of these days, our liberal pals are going to grasp how Trump works these deals. For now, they simply read his one liners, and are totally clueless as to how he's setting them up for future deals. Perhaps they should invest in The Art of the Deal.

#StillWinning
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Great point. I don't think they understand how businessmen and women negotiate. Nor do the media. It is brand new to them.
 
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WVPATX said:
BMW invested in that plant to appease Trump. They are very worried about NAFTA since they plan to build a Mexican plant in 2019. They fear a border tax. So in their meeting with Trump recently, they talked about the South Carolina plant and their plans for expansion. Jaw boning works. It worked for JFK and it is working for Trump.
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"To appease Trump"??? That's the "free market" attitude the GOP cherishes these days?
 
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"To appease Trump"??? That's the "free market" attitude the GOP cherishes these days?
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BMW is making a business calculation because on their future Mexican plant. The economics of that plant assumed NAFTA would be in place. BMW is trying to ensure their original economic assumptions as part of their economic model aren't impacted greatly by the renegotiation of NAFTA. So yes, they are trying to get on Trump's good side. They know he wants good paying jobs in the U.S. and are playing an angle.
 
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WVPATX said:
BMW is making a business calculation because on their future Mexican plant. The economics of that plant assumed NAFTA would be in place. BMW is trying to ensure their original economic assumptions as part of their economic model aren't impacted greatly by the renegotiation of NAFTA. So yes, they are trying to get on Trump's good side. They know he wants good paying jobs in the U.S. and are playing an angle.
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Or Trump's an idiot and South Carolina wins despite his blunderings.
 
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Or Trump's an idiot and South Carolina wins despite his blunderings.
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So BMW expands, South Carolina gets 1,000 jobs, BMW met with Trump on Merkel's visit and discussed the South Carolina plant specifically, and Trump is an idiot?

Just trying to understand lib logic.
 
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So BMW expands, South Carolina gets 1,000 jobs, BMW met with Trump on Merkel's visit and discussed the South Carolina plant specifically, and Trump is an idiot?

Just trying to understand lib logic.
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Scroll up to post #2 in this thread.
 
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Scroll up to post #2 in this thread.
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You don't seem to understand we are the big dog on the block. We have a huge consumer market. Companies want access to that market. Have you every owned or operated a business? That could explain quite a bit.
 
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You don't seem to understand we are the big dog on the block. We have a huge consumer market. Companies want access to that market. Have you every owned or operated a business? That could explain quite a bit.
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BMW wants to expand and does despite Trump trying to start sh*t with Germany and its leaders. I'm glad that SC gets the jobs but I give Trump zero credit or less than zero (see prior sentence).
 
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BMW wants do expand and does despite Trump trying to start sh*t with Germany and its leaders. I'm glad that SC gets the jobs but I give Trump zero credit or less than zero (see prior sentence).
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You have no idea why BMW did what they did. As I suspected, you did not respond as to whether you have ever owned or operated a business.

If you had, you would recognize you deal with all kinds of "customers." Trump can say whatever he wants about German trade practices, BMW has a company to run and stockholders to impress. They want access to the world's biggest market. We are leveraging that desire on their part. It is business 101.

You give Trump zero credit because you are a lib that hates Trump. Not because of facts.
 
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and neither do you.
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I have far more logic going for me than you. I laid out the facts. The Mexican expansion. NAFTA renegotiation. BMW's business case for expansion in Mexico and their economic models with assumptions regarding NAFTA. Very probably fear of a border tax. BMW's meeting with Trump.
 
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FIFY
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Which part of my statement was not factual?

Here you go again.

I have far more logic going for me than you. I laid out the facts. The Mexican expansion. NAFTA renegotiation. BMW's business case for expansion in Mexico and their economic models with assumptions regarding NAFTA. Very probably fear of a border tax. BMW's meeting with Trump.
 
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Which part of my statement was not factual?

Here you go again.

I have far more logic going for me than you. I laid out the facts. The Mexican expansion. NAFTA renegotiation. BMW's business case for expansion in Mexico and their economic models with assumptions regarding NAFTA. Very probably fear of a border tax. BMW's meeting with Trump.
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You state some things that may or may not have had anything to do with them expanding thus I said you were guessing. Their decision could have been made before Trump was elected and/or in consideration of more recent events.
 
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You state some things that may or may not have had anything to do with them expanding thus I said you were guessing. Their decision could have been made before Trump was elected and/or in consideration of more recent events.
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So you admit your statement below is in error:

BMW wants do expand and does despite Trump trying to start sh*t with Germany and its leaders. I'm glad that SC gets the jobs but I give Trump zero credit or less than zero (see prior sentence).
 
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So you admit your statement below is in error:

BMW wants do expand and does despite Trump trying to start sh*t with Germany and its leaders. I'm glad that SC gets the jobs but I give Trump zero credit or less than zero (see prior sentence).
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Nope.
 
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Nope.
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LOL. You posted:

and neither do you.

Sounds to me like you are admitting you don't know the facts. Then you disagree with yourself and claim you do know the facts. Consistently inconsistent.
 
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LOL. You posted:

and neither do you.

Sounds to me like you are admitting you don't know the facts. Then you disagree with yourself and claim you do know the facts. Consistently inconsistent.
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Moe is fvcking clown shoes. It's pointless to argue with him. He's as dim witted and consistently wrong as Country.
 
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WVPATX said:
BMW is making a business calculation because on their future Mexican plant. The economics of that plant assumed NAFTA would be in place. BMW is trying to ensure their original economic assumptions as part of their economic model aren't impacted greatly by the renegotiation of NAFTA. So yes, they are trying to get on Trump's good side. They know he wants good paying jobs in the U.S. and are playing an angle.
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But the reason that the "market" should control business decisions is largely due to the unpredictable influence of government actions, right? Protectionist policies or in this case using potential trade agreement negotiations as tools for manipulating business decisions can potentially lead to corruption and false market evaluations. I don't mind the negotiation of treaties for trade, but using those negotiations as pressure points for job creation is problematic and boarderline unethical (when referring to a sitting President or members of the federal government). I know it's done, and been done....and this isn't a Trump-thing for me. But rather a desire to see a true market governing economic rebound for the nation, for fear of a manipulated economic recovery crashing even harder on the future.

****im not well schooled in economics**** a minor in BA from WVU is all I tote.
 
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LOL. You posted:

and neither do you.

Sounds to me like you are admitting you don't know the facts. Then you disagree with yourself and claim you do know the facts. Consistently inconsistent.
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You seem very confused but I'm not surprised.
 
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But the reason that the "market" should control business decisions is largely due to the unpredictable influence of government actions, right? Protectionist policies or in this case using potential trade agreement negotiations as tools for manipulating business decisions can potentially lead to corruption and false market evaluations. I don't mind the negotiation of treaties for trade, but using those negotiations as pressure points for job creation is problematic and boarderline unethical (when referring to a sitting President or members of the federal government). I know it's done, and been done....and this isn't a Trump-thing for me. But rather a desire to see a true market governing economic rebound for the nation, for fear of a manipulated economic recovery crashing even harder on the future.

****im not well schooled in economics**** a minor in BA from WVU is all I tote.
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All businesses deal with government actions. Look at the coal industry devastated by government actions. It did distort the market and governments have been doing that throughout our history. Not sure your argument. This stuff has been going on, as you point out, before Trump. JFK made "jawboning" a famous term for his language/actions in the U.S. steel industry.

It is certainly not unethical to use your "buying power" to influence suppliers. That too is done all the time. How do you think Walmart became so successful?
 
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All businesses deal with government actions. Look at the coal industry devastated by government actions. It did distort the market and governments have been doing that throughout our history. Not sure your argument. This stuff has been going on, as you point out, before Trump. JFK made "jawboning" a famous term for his language/actions in the U.S. steel industry.

It is certainly not unethical to use your "buying power" to influence suppliers. That too is done all the time. How do you think Walmart became so successful?
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The difference is when it's governments doing it. I love JFK, but he often crossed an ethical line in many areas.

The worry lies when (guess I should say if at this point) power within the government changes hands, or when the trade deal doesn't reflect the points being touted by Trump?
 
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The difference is when it's governments doing it. I love JFK, but he often crossed an ethical line in many areas.

The worry lies when (guess I should say if at this point) power within the government changes hands, or when the trade deal doesn't reflect the points being touted by Trump?
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I guess my point is that governments do this all the time. They distort markets all the time through regulations, treaties and new laws. When Obama was inaugurated, he did a great deal to distort markets and change plans Bush had in place. Not sure the hand wringing over this. This is normal practice. Not sure why you are specifically concerned when the government changes hands.

Tom Steyer gave the Dems $100M to change our environmental policies. Those policies distorted markets.
 
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But the reason that the "market" should control business decisions is largely due to the unpredictable influence of government actions, right? Protectionist policies or in this case using potential trade agreement negotiations as tools for manipulating business decisions can potentially lead to corruption and false market evaluations. I don't mind the negotiation of treaties for trade, but using those negotiations as pressure points for job creation is problematic and boarderline unethical (when referring to a sitting President or members of the federal government). I know it's done, and been done....and this isn't a Trump-thing for me. But rather a desire to see a true market governing economic rebound for the nation, for fear of a manipulated economic recovery crashing even harder on the future.

****im not well schooled in economics**** a minor in BA from WVU is all I tote.
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He campaigned for 18 months saying he was going to this very thing.
 
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BTW, I owned an X5, biggest piece of **** I ever owned. There was something malfunctioning every time I turned around. Will never buy another BMW.
 
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