Ever at kentucky? I mean just imagine him playing 35 minutes a game. Could he work his way to a top 5 pick? Why not?
Booker best shooter?
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He's in the top 5 IMO despite the small sample size. Like someone else posted today, every time Booker shoots I think it's going in.
With all that said:
He gone
With all that said:
He gone
I would say top 5 shooter especially for a freshman. I wish he would stay his sophomore season. Doron Lamb was lights out his sophomore season. Brandon Knight was awesome his freshman year as well, and not near as complete team as this years.
he is easily the best shooter that has played since i started watching and i started in 92. He is really like a 60% 3pt shooter . he is only in the 50's right now b/c he started the season out with some gitters and went 1/13 to start.
DB is absolutely incredible shooting the basketball. I started watching UK bball in the 70's and all I can say is that DB is truly amazing shooting the ball. Rex, Delk, Meeks, were all amazing from 3, Devin (my opinion) is just as good.
He's better than all of them statistically and making the ball go in is the most important aspect . Not saying you but some posters hate statistics because it gets in the way of them propping up their favorites for title they don't deserve .
Meeks career was 38.56% - good but not great
Chapman was 40% - good not great
Delk was 39.75% - good not great
I view all three as good but somewhat streaky , especially Chapman and Meeks . They are a cut below Lamb , Booker and Travis Ford .
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The best shooter at UK that most on this board never saw was easily Louie Dampier. There was a thread about this around a month ago and he is hands down the best shooter at UK and it's not even close.
No he wasn't , it's easy to to declare something especially when there is no proof to back it up or to disprove it . In 9 ABA seasons Dampier had a career 3% of 35.8 , that's ok but enough evidence to prove that his shooting abilities were more myth than fact . If you have something that can support your claims that would be great .
ABA stats
I saw Louis Dampier play every game at Memorial Coliseum. He was awesome and definitely the best shooter over a three year period. Delk was very good of course as was Kyle Macy and Travis Ford. Booker may be as good or better but it is still much too early to tell.
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Sorry, but you're plain wrong. We've had some great shooters but Dampier was the best as the vast majority that saw him play will agree. Don't start pulling out stats to try and back up play on the floor.
Best shooter, ah, I don't know but he has one of the the prettiest shots I have ever seen. His mechanics are as fundamentally pure as I've seen in a long time.
LOL listen i don't know a lick about dampier but what you just said was so stupid you have to be called out - Don't pull out stats ? That is what it comes down to . period. You are what you shoot . Now sometimes they can be scewed for a half of season or a 10 game streak but not after a season or more . Sorry.
I have proof , you present nothing but opinion . Dampier never shot above 40% in 9 ABA seasons , that's not great by any standard . I couldn't find his NBA stats but I doubt it's much different , maybe that avenue will give you some validity . Until then the facts support my argument , if you find something please share it with the rest of us .
My humble opinion
1, Grevey
2. Dampier
3. Delk
4. Lamb
5. Macy
Booker? Great potential but too soon to call.
1, Grevey
2. Dampier
3. Delk
4. Lamb
5. Macy
Booker? Great potential but too soon to call.
Bookers obviously shooting great, but it's early to compare him to the all timers. He is on a hot streak that could end like that. let's not forget how normal he looked a month and a half ago. He's on the best shooting steaks I've seen, but that's all you should say right now.
It's silly to proclaim someone the best shooter ever after half a season. Sure, his percentage is great but it's a lot harder to do it over years when you are a target of the opposing team's defense. Remember how Kyle Wiltger was a lot better shooter as a freshman than he was a sophomore?
The Dampier comments on here are ridiculous. The guy was a great shooter. The ABA 3 point line was a lot longer than the current college line for one thing. Also, percentages don't tell the whole story. Larry Bird was a career 37% 3 point shooter in the NBA. Do we think Booker is a better shooter than him?
The Dampier comments on here are ridiculous. The guy was a great shooter. The ABA 3 point line was a lot longer than the current college line for one thing. Also, percentages don't tell the whole story. Larry Bird was a career 37% 3 point shooter in the NBA. Do we think Booker is a better shooter than him?
No three point line during that time but if Dampier couldn't crack 40% in nine years I feel confident he wasn't the best shooter here . Of course you are hiding behind no facts at all as protection from scrutiny , convenient but since we have known performance record it has been shot down none the less .
We have witnessed posters claim Willis is a dead eye shooter and John Hood being a sharpshooter despite it not being true at all . Dampier was a good shooter but I suspect the same situation is true here also , sorry but your argument has been soundly defeated . He was probably along the lines of Delk , which is nothing to scoff at .
He shot 50% from 2 , that is a fact . To suggest that those came from three or distance is being dishonest and quite frankly undermines the effort to prove your point . You don't have any qualms with stretching the truth so how can we believe anything you say . Josh Carrier was described as a beast in practice but the facts are he wasn't that good , UK fans tend to exaggerate about their favorite players is my point .
Let's say Dampier is probably top five in this argument but I have yet to see a single thing to cement him as the greatest . He played many years in the ABA/NBA and yet there is nothing to back you up , that pretty much settles it .
How much defense was Dampier getting on these shots of his. When Booker shoots, it's worth three points. So it's worth coming out to guard him. Dampier, not so much. The whole team shot fifty percent, I'd pack it in and let him shoot from there.
I do not how it will end up but for now Booker has looked like a great shooter. I think if you are just talking about shooting, I would give Ford the edge as the best. Travis was limited by his size and at his size he had to be the quickest player on the court and he wasn't., but he was certainly a great great shooter.
guys, you have to realize that some people's knowledge of UK basketball begins and ends with the Cal era. Dampier shot over 50% from for his career at UK, which is amazing for a guard, maybe the highest for any guard we've ever had. Booker is right at 50% so while that is also great it is not as good as Dampier so that should be all the facts you need
Fact three
You like to quote the ABA Dampier was the best three point shooter in ABA history.I'm pretty sure they also played better D in the ABA than in college.Just a extra fact.
I have nothing against Booker he will be a great college player,but he's only played 19 games.
You like to quote the ABA Dampier was the best three point shooter in ABA history.I'm pretty sure they also played better D in the ABA than in college.Just a extra fact.
I have nothing against Booker he will be a great college player,but he's only played 19 games.
This is a three point shooting discussion , Dampier played in an era that didn't pmay defense or was even allowed to play defense like today . How many layups or twelve footers is not in play . If you want to up his ABA 3% another 10% for the little extra distance he still falls well short of the great UK shooters .
Trying to be deceptive is not a good argument , he never shot over 40% from three . That's a real fact and not some manipulated version , this boils down to wanting a guy from your era to be recognized . Dampier should get honorable mention since his numbers are difficult to quantify , but this bs of "I saw him take dude at the wye to skewel" is not going to cut it .
Trying to be deceptive is not a good argument , he never shot over 40% from three . That's a real fact and not some manipulated version , this boils down to wanting a guy from your era to be recognized . Dampier should get honorable mention since his numbers are difficult to quantify , but this bs of "I saw him take dude at the wye to skewel" is not going to cut it .
According to the link I provided Darel Carrier 37.73% , Glen Combs 36.74% and George Lehmann 36.49% all had a higher career 3% than Dampier at 35.81% . That's the second time you have twisted or misrepresented your facts to make a case , there is no reason to debate this with you if your willing to skew the truth . If that's what it takes to support your argument then you really don't have one .
This post was edited on 1/24 10:16 PM by Xception
This is a three point discussion. The only thing that matters is 3pt FG% and Booker is shooting 50% on the season.
That being said, this is a half season's worth of games. Small samples still apply for 3pt FG%
Let's wait for a full seasons worth of data before claiming him the best
He's definitely on pace tho
That being said, this is a half season's worth of games. Small samples still apply for 3pt FG%
Let's wait for a full seasons worth of data before claiming him the best
He's definitely on pace tho
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making the ball go in is the most important aspect which also means volume at the very least should also be considered in addition to career percentage ( not saying your conclusion is wrong/would be disproven but I dont think its quite as simple as just looking at career %, although I'd agree that's the most important factor)
Youre right roundballaddict but unfortunately this may be the only year for Booker , it is a small sample size and this discussion can be revisited late this year maybe . I will say that I am very impressed by a freshman doing this , of the players listed in this thread I wonder what were their %'s as a freshman .