Boom Williams

olblue

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This is BW's third year at UK meaning that he is draft eligible. Who doesn't believe he will leave after this season?
 

Beatle Bum

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I think he will leave this year. The chances increase dramatically if there is a coaching change. But, regardless, I think he leaves.
 
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kykidBBN

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He's one of the best backs in football. He should go before he gets injured again.
 

Beatle Bum

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I think he has a reason to go. He is a smallish back that will not be an every down kind of player, but may find a niche on STs in kickoff return and backup, third down back. He has not yet demonstrated great hands, which really hurts him at his size (who wants a third down back who cannot run a route and catch?). But, the things that would make him more desirable are not things he controls (cannot get bigger). I doubt a fourth year would move him up the board enough to make it worth his while. Just one uneducated man's opinion.
 

WildCard

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I think he has a reason to go. He is a smallish back that will not be an every down kind of player, but may find a niche on STs in kickoff return and backup, third down back. He has not yet demonstrated great hands, which really hurts him at his size (who wants a third down back who cannot run a route and catch?). But, the things that would make him more desirable are not things he controls (cannot get bigger). I doubt a fourth year would move him up the board enough to make it worth his while. Just one uneducated man's opinion.
Pretty much agree here. But a pro career would almost certainly be as a 3rd down back or a kick returner. He has not really distinguished himself as a pass catcher and I have no idea about his ability to return kicks. IOW, not a sure fire pro prospect. If he leaves it may be more about a mindset of simply not caring to be in college any longer. JMO

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Grumpyolddawg

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This is BW's third year at UK meaning that he is draft eligible. Who doesn't believe he will leave after this season?

With teams not putting as much value on RBs in the NFL as they once did I don't know where Boom would be drafted. There are alot of very good RBs who will be eligible to come out this year, Fournette, Chubb, Hurd, Michel, Williams, Hood, McCaffery. Perine at OU, Cook at FSU, Kamara, Freeman at Oregon gained over 1800 yards last year. All of those are Jr., and that's just the ones I am somewhat aware of. All of them may not leave early but all of them will check it out. Its very likely all of them won't get drafted and have to go the free agent route and hope to catch on. But there are a ton of backs eligible to come out early this year, it will be a risky year to leave early.
 

Beatle Bum

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If he leaves it may be more about a mindset of simply not caring to be in college any longer.

Maybe, but it probably would be more about the longevity of an NFL career for RBs. If they have a career, they are well served by getting busy at that career as early as they can. Boom has had some nagging injuries (not good for a small back who wants to be drafted), but to date has not had a bad injury that could end his career. Getting out of college with good stats and health is the key. If he cannot put himself on a draft board or cannot significantly raise his draft rating by staying his senior year, he should go. If he has been going to class, by year three, most of these guys are less than a year from a degree. He can get that if things don't work out.

I would prefer him to stay. And, his success this season will be key. But, if he has a season like last, I think he goes.
 

NCukcat62

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With teams not putting as much value on RBs in the NFL as they once did I don't know where Boom would be drafted. There are alot of very good RBs who will be eligible to come out this year, Fournette, Chubb, Hurd, Michel, Williams, Hood, McCaffery. Perine at OU, Cook at FSU, Kamara, Freeman at Oregon gained over 1800 yards last year. All of those are Jr., and that's just the ones I am somewhat aware of. All of them may not leave early but all of them will check it out. Its very likely all of them won't get drafted and have to go the free agent route and hope to catch on. But there are a ton of backs eligible to come out early this year, it will be a risky year to leave early.
I agree. Boom might wanna go but the backs coming out this year or are eligible are incredibly deep. And with how the nfl works, he'll be lucky to make a roster
 
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Blueaz

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With teams not putting as much value on RBs in the NFL as they once did I don't know where Boom would be drafted. There are alot of very good RBs who will be eligible to come out this year, Fournette, Chubb, Hurd, Michel, Williams, Hood, McCaffery. Perine at OU, Cook at FSU, Kamara, Freeman at Oregon gained over 1800 yards last year. All of those are Jr., and that's just the ones I am somewhat aware of. All of them may not leave early but all of them will check it out. Its very likely all of them won't get drafted and have to go the free agent route and hope to catch on. But there are a ton of backs eligible to come out early this year, it will be a risky year to leave early.
I am agreeing more with you...as of right now, he is not being drafted; so why leave?
why are we even having this discussion?
I know we are fans...but, realistic ideas have to be there (sometimes)...last year, quite a few were predicting Towles in the 3rd round at this time.
 
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Beatle Bum

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With teams not putting as much value on RBs in the NFL as they once did I don't know where Boom would be drafted. There are alot of very good RBs who will be eligible to come out this year, Fournette, Chubb, Hurd, Michel, Williams, Hood, McCaffery. Perine at OU, Cook at FSU, Kamara, Freeman at Oregon gained over 1800 yards last year. All of those are Jr., and that's just the ones I am somewhat aware of. All of them may not leave early but all of them will check it out. Its very likely all of them won't get drafted and have to go the free agent route and hope to catch on. But there are a ton of backs eligible to come out early this year, it will be a risky year to leave early.

But, does the RB draft board get better for Boom if he stays four years? Good RBs are available every year. Only the elite get drafted high. There will be a list next year too.
 

Mr Schwump

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This is BW's third year at UK meaning that he is draft eligible. Who doesn't believe he will leave after this season?

Me. Just doesn't fit the NFL. He's too fragile and his hissy fits won't fit well. Come back, dedicate yourself to getting in better condition and grow up.
 

Deeeefense

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Depends on the kind of year he has and where he projects. Running back typically do not get picked in the early rounds very often as the NFL is now a passing league. I think Williams figures to be a third down back - I could even see him changing positions to slot receiver if he can demonstrate the ability to catch the ball.
 

kyrivals

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I heard he would be close to graduating after this year. A few summer classes and he might have that degree.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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But, does the RB draft board get better for Boom if he stays four years? Good RBs are available every year. Only the elite get drafted high. There will be a list next year too.

I don't know about that, you are right about RBs being eligible every year, but I can't remember a year with so many great/good RB going to be eligible to leave. Boom has some things he needs to improve on, he needs to show he can catch the ball out of the backfield, be more willing to block are 2 big ones. Boom is a great runner, but all those guys are, plus he is one of if not the smallest, he is going to have to show he can catch the ball to make a roster in the NFL. McCaffery is small too, but he has shown he has great hands and could make a roster as a WR.
 
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WildcatofNati

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If Boom can position himself to get viewed as a third to fifth round prospect after this season, he should go ahead and go. With the devaluing of the position, it's not likely that he's going to improve his draft stock by staying another year. If there's going to be so much room for improvement that he needs the extra year to attain, then he's not getting drafted after this year anyway.
 

TBCat

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Pretty much agree here. But a pro career would almost certainly be as a 3rd down back or a kick returner. He has not really distinguished himself as a pass catcher and I have no idea about his ability to return kicks. IOW, not a sure fire pro prospect. If he leaves it may be more about a mindset of simply not caring to be in college any longer. JMO

Peace
His freshman year he broke one that was returned to about the 10 yard line. Why we have never used him there since is a mystery. Same with punt returns. We should have him out there and probably would if there were any focus put on special teams.
 

Beatle Bum

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I don't know about that, you are right about RBs being eligible every year, but I can't remember a year with so many great/good RB going to be eligible to leave. Boom has some things he needs to improve on, he needs to show he can catch the ball out of the backfield, be more willing to block are 2 big ones. Boom is a great runner, but all those guys are, plus he is one of if not the smallest, he is going to have to show he can catch the ball to make a roster in the NFL. McCaffery is small too, but he has shown he has great hands and could make a roster as a WR.

Agreed. But, we are talking about a kid. See B Heard as example.
 

Beatle Bum

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His freshman year he broke one that was returned to about the 10 yard line. Why we have never used him there since is a mystery. Same with punt returns. We should have him out there and probably would if there were any focus put on special teams.

He also took a vicious hit to the head that kept him out for a while. King and Harmon and Kemp do well on KOs. I think they try to protect Boom and keep him fresh.
 

Rafe Guttman

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His freshman year he broke one that was returned to about the 10 yard line. Why we have never used him there since is a mystery. Same with punt returns. We should have him out there and probably would if there were any focus put on special teams.

You can usually discern the emphasis teams place on special teams when you see who they have returning kicks/punts. Brooks would often have his best offensive player back there. It's funny when a Grandpa is willing to be more bold than a younger man.

Everything about Stoops is risk avoidance: play a passive 3-4 to prevent the big play, while dying the death of a thousand cuts on off tackle running plays and don't use your best skill guys in special teams because they may get hurt. He's so afraid of losing he'll never win here.
 

JasonS.

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We haven't had a RB get drafted in 15 years (since Artose). I think if he even gets a sniff of serious NFL interest, you'd have to suspect he's gone.
 

Beatle Bum

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You can usually discern the emphasis teams place on special teams when you see who they have returning kicks/punts. Brooks would often have his best offensive player back there. It's funny when a Grandpa is willing to be more bold than a younger man.

Everything about Stoops is risk avoidance: play a passive 3-4 to prevent the big play, while dying the death of a thousand cuts on off tackle running plays and don't use your best skill guys in special teams because they may get hurt. He's so afraid of losing he'll never win here.

I think King, Harmon and Kemp are some of the best return people we have. When Boom was a frosh, the skill player roster was thin. That is not currently the case. Boom was far more valuable to the team when Stoops had him at KOR. So, your point is not made by raising it in this context.
 

ulismyman

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He is not a pro in any sense of the word...as Hinshaw would say..his brand stinks...no chance to play on sunday
 

Deeeefense

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You can usually discern the emphasis teams place on special teams when you see who they have returning kicks/punts. Brooks would often have his best offensive player back there. It's funny when a Grandpa is willing to be more bold than a younger man.

Everything about Stoops is risk avoidance: play a passive 3-4 to prevent the big play, while dying the death of a thousand cuts on off tackle running plays and don't use your best skill guys in special teams because they may get hurt. He's so afraid of losing he'll never win here.

I think special teams lineups are also indicative of depth. Brooks had very little depth and had to use starters. Stoops has a lot of quality players that don't start that he can use on ST.
 
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ulismyman

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I tell you what he did really well against USM....helped all their players up after every play....WTF
 
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Grumpyolddawg

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Boom's dad has always been a little more involved in Boom's career than he should have been. Back in HS days a coach didn't something he didn't like, they tranferred.
 
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jauk11

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I heard he would be close to graduating after this year. A few summer classes and he might have that degree.

Well, good for him, glad he isn't putting all his eggs in having a pro career, to many players do. There aren't that many openings at any position.
 

jauk11

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I tell you what he did really well against USM....helped all their players up after every play....WTF

:Yeah, what the hell is he doing showing some sportsmanship, doesn't he know it is all about the money now? He would have probably been kicked off the team at TU or Transfer U.
 

Kats23

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Boom's dad has always been a little more involved in Boom's career than he should have been. Back in HS days a coach didn't something he didn't like, they tranferred.

Guess the subject of Boom's dad is a touchy subject. I can't remember the last time I had a reply of mine deleted. Oh well, he's not my cup of tea for Catwalk and I think Boom declares at the end of the year.
 

Deeeefense

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Guess the subject of Boom's dad is a touchy subject. I can't remember the last time I had a reply of mine deleted. Oh well, he's not my cup of tea for Catwalk and I think Boom declares at the end of the year.

It's pretty simple, you can express criticism if you choose, but when you start disparaging players, coaches and their families you won't be around here long.
 
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lex cath

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I tell you what he did really well against USM....helped all their players up after every play....WTF

Absolutely agree with this, couldn't believe he did that every play. Happened so many times we almost got delay of game penalties
 

Beatle Bum

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Who's sour, it's the way things went. I am glad Boom is having a good career and giving himself a chance to make a check playing in the league.

In the message board era, this ;) is a "winky eye." Kind of like what your uncle would send you down the Thanksgiving Day table when he gigged your old man.

(Did I get the Grumpy Old lingo right?)