BORRRRRING!

May 29, 2001
20,973
78
0
Who feels like it takes a decade to go from the end of WVU basketball season to the beginning of WVU football season?

All I have from April through August when it comes to sports is 100 to 150 rounds of golf.

Baseball bores me. Hours of watching players scratch their privates and pick their noses and spit doesn't do it for me.

Come on, opener at Maryland September 4 at 4 p.m. on ESPN!

I can't wait.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
You know why I like baseball..

Because I can listen to the game on the radio or watch it on TV and do something else.

That is hard in football unless you are playing some no name school and are up 28-0 in the first half.
You get caught up in the games and there goes your Saturdays
 

MountaineerWV

New member
Sep 18, 2007
26,267
143
0
Who feels like it takes a decade to go from the end of WVU basketball season to the beginning of WVU football season?

All I have from April through August when it comes to sports is 100 to 150 rounds of golf.

Baseball bores me. Hours of watching players scratch their privates and pick their noses and spit doesn't do it for me.

Come on, opener at Maryland September 4 at 4 p.m. on ESPN!

I can't wait.
It usually does bore those that do not have the talent to participate in baseball and instead choose sports that they can hide and rely on the skills of other players to hide their deficiencies.
 
May 29, 2001
20,973
78
0
It usually does bore those that do not have the talent to participate in baseball and instead choose sports that they can hide and rely on the skills of other players to hide their deficiencies.

OH, PHYSICALLY I AM DEFICIENT ATHLETICALLY IN EVERY SPORT EXCEPT GOLF, WHERE I AVERAGE 48 FOR 9 HOLES THIS SEASON DESPITE BEING 88 YEARS OLD. I AM FADING, THOUGH, BECAUSE I AVERAGED 45.9 in 2020. YES, THE NUMBERS GUY HAS KEPT TRACK OF EVERY GOLF SCORE SINCE 2016 WHEN PAULA'S BROTHER, TOM, AND I STARTED PLAYING IN 2 SENIORS GOLF LEAGUES EVERY WEEK. THE ONLY NUMBER I WON'T LIKE IS MY EXPIRATION DATE.
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
It usually does bore those that do not have the talent to participate in baseball and instead choose sports that they can hide and rely on the skills of other players to hide their deficiencies.

He is like 90 years old, you expect him to be doing Ricky Henderson slides into 3rd base or something?
 

Pitt4Life34

New member
Nov 5, 2002
59,698
36,033
0
Don’t let him pollute a good board with his rambling. This is exactly why my dad didn’t want his mom watching the news…

Strange that he has enough money, according to him, to bet $4,000, which he turned tail and ran away from, and can’t find $10/month to jump on the true WVU site 😂. Hmmmm?
 

westsiderSJHS77

New member
Aug 9, 2008
2,679
0
0
OH, PHYSICALLY I AM DEFICIENT ATHLETICALLY IN EVERY SPORT EXCEPT GOLF, WHERE I AVERAGE 48 FOR 9 HOLES THIS SEASON DESPITE BEING 88 YEARS OLD. I AM FADING, THOUGH, BECAUSE I AVERAGED 45.9 in 2020. YES, THE NUMBERS GUY HAS KEPT TRACK OF EVERY GOLF SCORE SINCE 2016 WHEN PAULA'S BROTHER, TOM, AND I STARTED PLAYING IN 2 SENIORS GOLF LEAGUES EVERY WEEK.
Cow pasture baseball. Big deal.
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
You mean he's always been old?

OK..thrill us with your athletic background...

Let me guess...you played baseball at a small town high school in WV, then maybe paid a D3 college to play for them, under the false narrative of a "scholarship"...

Now you coach kids, and most people find you annoying.

You suck in your gut around the hotter moms but dont fool any of them...
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
Doesn’t matter.

Once you understand the game you appreciate it
Some people who have played baseball at a high level understand that
Most people are forced to quit baseball at 13 or 14.
Like the story goes everyone is forced to quit playing game. Some are fortunate enough to do it later in life
You don’t have the hand/eye coordination or you can no longer get outs as a pitcher


Pitcher trying to throw a ball so you can’t hit it..
As a hitter you are trying to return the favor and hit the thing hard and far

No sport that has these individual matchups the entire game
 
May 29, 2001
20,973
78
0
Doesn’t matter.

Once you understand the game you appreciate it
Some people who have played baseball at a high level understand that
Most people are forced to quit baseball at 13 or 14.
Like the story goes everyone is forced to quit playing game. Some are fortunate enough to do it later in life
You don’t have the hand/eye coordination or you can no longer get outs as a pitcher


Pitcher trying to throw a ball so you can’t hit it..
As a hitter you are trying to return the favor and hit the thing hard and far

No sport that has these individual matchups the entire game

TRUE. BUT IT IS KIND OF LIKE WATCHING PAINT DRY THESE DAYS COMPARED TO NON-STOP BASKETBALL ACTION AND TRYING TO WATCH 22 PEOPLE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN FOOTBALL. GOLF IS THE BEST SPORT FOR YOU AGAINST THE COURSE/ELEMENTS. NO TEAMMATES, EXCEPT FOR SENIORS LEAGUES. JUST YOU, THE BALL, YOUR MIND AND YOUR SWING. AND IT'S THE SPORT THAT YOU CAN PERFORM THE LONGEST ... TILL THE MOMENT YOU DIE IN SOME CASES ... MOST OTHER SPORTS THAT REQUIRE MORE PHYSICALITY EVEN HALL OF FAMERS HAVE TO RETIRE BEFORE THEY DID. HELL, PHIL MICKELSON WON A GOLF MAJOR AT THE AGE OF 50!
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
A lot of mud balls. Maybe not as much as you see on the Gulf Coast..

The groundskeeper at a lot of the courses deserve their pay.

Tuscon is a better place. The weather in Arizona is pretty pleasant 8 months of the year and it is dry.

Arizona is one of the better states
 
Last edited:

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
Doesn’t matter.

Once you understand the game you appreciate it
Some people who have played baseball at a high level understand that
Most people are forced to quit baseball at 13 or 14.
Like the story goes everyone is forced to quit playing game. Some are fortunate enough to do it later in life
You don’t have the hand/eye coordination or you can no longer get outs as a pitcher


Pitcher trying to throw a ball so you can’t hit it..
As a hitter you are trying to return the favor and hit the thing hard and far

No sport that has these individual matchups the entire game

Yeah I agree, although i find current baseball hard to watch...its either home run or strike out.

Just read batting avg is the lowest in over 50 years....

Can't stand the shift, and MLB batters who cant hit away from it. No base stealing, or advancing runners. Its hit the ball out of the park or strike out.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
Yeah I agree, although i find current baseball hard to watch...its either home run or strike out.

Just read batting avg is the lowest in over 50 years....

Can't stand the shift, and MLB batters who cant hit away from it. No base stealing, or advancing runners. Its hit the ball out of the park or strike out.

I don’t have an issue with the shifts. Baseball is all about percentages. Always has been for the most part but today people back up their thinking with data

The shifts will continue until a player proves different. There are still players who make it difficult to shift on. But those players are rare. Baseball is a game of adjustments.

What has people turning away is the difference with hitters. They are more disciplined today than they were before.

Plate discipline leads to strike outs. Living in Houston I get to watch a team who rarely strikes out but also leads the league in foul balls
Maybe it isn’t noticeable to me as it is others.
But they are always hitting with two strikes. The difference to me are the hitters with two strikes who can control the plate still
The Yankees have a few. I actually cannot stand Brett Gardner. Seems like he sees 9-10 pitches every time he is up
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
I don’t have an issue with the shifts. Baseball is all about percentages. Always has been for the most part but today people back up their thinking with data

The shifts will continue until a player proves different. There are still players who make it difficult to shift on. But those players are rare. Baseball is a game of adjustments.

What has people turning away is the difference with hitters. They are more disciplined today than they were before.

Plate discipline leads to strike outs. Living in Houston I get to watch a team who rarely strikes out but also leads the league in foul balls
Maybe it isn’t noticeable to me as it is others.
But they are always hitting with two strikes. The difference to me are the hitters with two strikes who can control the plate still
The Yankees have a few. I actually cannot stand Brett Gardner. Seems like he sees 9-10 pitches every time he is up

I cant imagine being a pro baseball player and seeing half the field empty and not being able to place a hit where the fielders aren't...or lay a bunt down.
 

MountaineerWV

New member
Sep 18, 2007
26,267
143
0
OK..thrill us with your athletic background...

Let me guess...you played baseball at a small town high school in WV, then maybe paid a D3 college to play for them, under the false narrative of a "scholarship"...

Now you coach kids, and most people find you annoying.

You suck in your gut around the hotter moms but dont fool any of them...
Another guy who isn't athletic enough to hit a baseball. (meaning you)
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
Another guy who isn't athletic enough to hit a baseball. (meaning you)

I'm trying to imagine living in a self-induced reality where I believe I'm the only person on the internet who has hit a baseball before, but even using my whole imagination I'm unable to think that slow and dull-witted, yet you can do it effortlessly.
 

Butler-eer

New member
Aug 26, 2002
1,274
2
0
I don’t have an issue with the shifts. Baseball is all about percentages. Always has been for the most part but today people back up their thinking with data

The shifts will continue until a player proves different. There are still players who make it difficult to shift on. But those players are rare. Baseball is a game of adjustments.

What has people turning away is the difference with hitters. They are more disciplined today than they were before.

Plate discipline leads to strike outs. Living in Houston I get to watch a team who rarely strikes out but also leads the league in foul balls
Maybe it isn’t noticeable to me as it is others.
But they are always hitting with two strikes. The difference to me are the hitters with two strikes who can control the plate still
The Yankees have a few. I actually cannot stand Brett Gardner. Seems like he sees 9-10 pitches every time he is up
TVZ, i see your point on the shift and percentages. What I don't understand is that the hitters can't put the ball on the short side of the shift. Even in Colt leagues we were taught to hit to the opposite field. That wasn't even the HS team. As good as these guys are you would think that a left hander with a hard right field shift could punch one over the 3rd baseman or at least push it down the 3rd base line. With a right handed pitcher there is only 1 player on that side of the field.

MLB tried to speed up the games by forcing batters to stay in the box. Didn't help much. Time to force pitchers to throw quicker. Time to force managers to make pitching changes quicker. 3+ hours is too long for the game. And this comes from an (used to be) avid baseball fan.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
The problem is people aren’t understanding how quick you have to react

The difference in baseball comes with players who can see the ball coming out of the hand.
Some pitchers do tip their pitches by their arm slot
But we will say if a pitcher throws a baseball at the same arm slot
How difficult it is to pick up the breaking ball.

Then when the hitter does make contact where does that ball go.

Some of you actually believe you have the ability to direct a 97 mph fastball with movement.
Just trying to get the bat on the ball. Allow your swing to direct where the ball goes
 

MichiganHerd

New member
Aug 17, 2011
27,066
7
0
The problem is people aren’t understanding how quick you have to react

The difference in baseball comes with players who can see the ball coming out of the hand.
Some pitchers do tip their pitches by their arm slot
But we will say if a pitcher throws a baseball at the same arm slot
How difficult it is to pick up the breaking ball.

Then when the hitter does make contact where does that ball go.

Some of you actually believe you have the ability to direct a 97 mph fastball with movement.
Just trying to get the bat on the ball. Allow your swing to direct where the ball goes
I actually agree with you on this take. This isn't softball where you can hit the ball where ever you want to on the field. Reaction times in college and MLB are greatly reduced, making it very difficult for a hitter to place the ball. You can almost get away with it, say in high school type baseball, where a pitcher maybe throwing in the 70s and low 80s, but doing so against someone tossing it upper 80s/low 90s is extremely difficult. Like you said, it's hard enough just getting a bat on a ball. Placing it in an open gap just isn't an option, unless the pitcher makes a bad pitch to the outside of the plate.
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
I actually agree with you on this take. This isn't softball where you can hit the ball where ever you want to on the field. Reaction times in college and MLB are greatly reduced, making it very difficult for a hitter to place the ball. You can almost get away with it, say in high school type baseball, where a pitcher maybe throwing in the 70s and low 80s, but doing so against someone tossing it upper 80s/low 90s is extremely difficult. Like you said, it's hard enough just getting a bat on a ball. Placing it in an open gap just isn't an option, unless the pitcher makes a bad pitch to the outside of the plate.

Ok fair enough, then just eliminate the shift.
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
The problem is people aren’t understanding how quick you have to react

The difference in baseball comes with players who can see the ball coming out of the hand.
Some pitchers do tip their pitches by their arm slot
But we will say if a pitcher throws a baseball at the same arm slot
How difficult it is to pick up the breaking ball.

Then when the hitter does make contact where does that ball go.

Some of you actually believe you have the ability to direct a 97 mph fastball with movement.
Just trying to get the bat on the ball. Allow your swing to direct where the ball goes

You'll need to speak to MountaineerWV about that, he is very athletic and good at hitting baseballs.
 

Butler-eer

New member
Aug 26, 2002
1,274
2
0
In the same vein, people tend to forget how hard it is to hit a 1.68 inch ball 200 yards and have it stick within 10 - 20 ft of a hole. And that's without any outside interference. It's all on you.

In most tournaments bogies are more common than birdies. Watching a hole in one, or eagle is much more exciting and rare than anything in baseball (although I still like baseball). Then the very rare Albatross is thrilling. Then the most rare of them all, the Condor. Only 6 being recorded in PGA tourney history including one on a par 6 hole.

You could compare that to a 5 HR game in baseball. Now, that would be exciting.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
Ok fair enough, then just eliminate the shift.

D.J LeMahieu

There are a few others. Look at his numbers and the percentage of shifts against him.



Some baseball players have super human capabilities when it comes to pitch recognition...
But does that come from hard work.


Percentages
Lowest percent of pitches with a shift on, 2016-20 (active players)

0.0% -- LeMahieu
0.1% -- Dee Strange-Gordon
0.1% -- Miguel Rojas
0.2% -- Isiah Kiner-Falefa
0.2% -- Jean Segura
0.2% -- Chris Owings
0.2% -- Christian Vázquez
0.2% -- Orlando Arcia
0.2% -- Travis Jankowski
 

Darth_VadEER

New member
Dec 14, 2010
23,025
3,212
0
D.J LeMahieu

There are a few others. Look at his numbers and the percentage of shifts against him.



Some baseball players have super human capabilities when it comes to pitch recognition...
But does that come from hard work.


Percentages
Lowest percent of pitches with a shift on, 2016-20 (active players)

0.0% -- LeMahieu
0.1% -- Dee Strange-Gordon
0.1% -- Miguel Rojas
0.2% -- Isiah Kiner-Falefa
0.2% -- Jean Segura
0.2% -- Chris Owings
0.2% -- Christian Vázquez
0.2% -- Orlando Arcia
0.2% -- Travis Jankowski


Thats interesting but I think its pretty clear the majority cant hit against it, and it's effecting the game...but I dont watch anyways so my opinion dont matter.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
Thats interesting but I think its pretty clear the majority cant hit against it, and it's effecting the game...but I dont watch anyways so my opinion dont matter.

The Dave Kingman type hitters 😂
There was a lot of them around in the 1980’s.

There are a few of them around baseball and the reason why they continue to get at bats is slugging percentage.

If you can hit a HR once every 15 at bats
Then throw in a single in there and some walks every 20 Plate Appearances

Joey Gallo represents this the best. According to the article they shift on him more than anyone

But Joey is playing in a new ballpark.
The old stadium for the Texas Rangers had a jet stream to right center.
Their new park is a pitcher’s park. Reason why he has been trying to change his game
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
It happened before the shifts
Think it was 97 or 98...

Still remember one of the broadcasters talking about Jim Thome
They were talking about how his at bats only ended in 4 things for a 2-3 week period

Strike Out
Walk
Fly Out
Home Run

This isn’t really new with some hitters
The thing is a lot of hitters want to be like Thome or Dave Kingman
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
You keep putting my real name out there for AlAnon to find me and end your irritation about me?
😂 You did that to yourself.
Clock is ticking...

He isn’t living forever so this account is on borrowed time. Remember.
Baseball isn’t the only thing about percentages. Life is
The real John Olesky doesn’t deserve to have his name ran through the mud
 
May 29, 2001
20,973
78
0
😂 You did that to yourself.
Clock is ticking...

He isn’t living forever so this account is on borrowed time. Remember.
Baseball isn’t the only thing about percentages. Life is
The real John Olesky doesn’t deserve to have his name ran through the mud

INTIMIDATION HAS NEVER WORKED WITH ME. INTERESTING YOU KEEP REPEATING MY REAL NAME BUT ARE TOO COWARDLY TO PUT YOUR REAL NAME OUT THERE. TYPICAL.
 
Aug 19, 2018
9,810
0
0
INTIMIDATION HAS NEVER WORKED WITH ME. INTERESTING YOU KEEP REPEATING MY REAL NAME BUT ARE TOO COWARDLY TO PUT YOUR REAL NAME OUT THERE. TYPICAL.

What is that saying about Pride...
Your real name isn’t John Olesky. That is why you use it.
Biggest Red Flag to anyone. Someone who is 88 years old isn’t that naive
But back to pride. If this is about your pride
Criminally minded people are stupid as we see here.
They worry about their “pride” because they are mainly shallow people who don’t think. Just react