BR VS MARIST
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I'm somewhat biased but I think Crusaders win. Seems like the home team always plays up in this rivalry and even last year's undefeated Marist team only beat us by a score or two if i recall correctly. This is supposed to be the team we've been waiting for so I gotta think Rice pulls this one out. I'll say 34-21.
I really think this is a no brainer . Aside from Edgy, no one is even ranking Rice. Marist is a top 10 team. Redhawks have to be a 14 point favorite here. This could be a blowout.
Besides Edgy’s ranking BR isn’t getting any credit because of last season record. People are saying Smallings made the team and without him, they’re back to normal. We here as advit high school football fans and followers know they will be competitive. They don’t have a game changer like Smallings, players like him come around once every a decade, or in his case once in a lifetime, to a program, but they do have talent and a great front 7. If they get pressure on Markett look out because Marist line is not what is was last year. Like I said above I’ll give Marist the nod but I’m thinking 17-14
We'll see - rivalry game. Playing at Rice. Rice went 1-8 in 1984 and following year played in State Championship game. Rice appears to be healthy - last year didn't have McCoy and McMahon but those guys appear to be back (knock on wood). DL looks good which could put a big rush on Markett. Rice OL looks good too while Marist lost a lot on their DL
BR oline worries me. The DBs not as much, I think Coach OB will have them ready to go but Marist has weapons. DBs need to have short memories.
Rice should pound the ball and eat clock, what a crazy concept right??
Rice should pound the ball and eat clock, what a crazy concept right??
OB’s experience, as a player and coach, has been on the offensive side of the ball. Skalitzy and Thompson are tall orders for your first Varsity game coaching a new position. He’s a great coach though and person
Didn't they lose a 2 year starter on the O-line due to illness? If so,I hope he's going to be OK.
Marist staff consistently beats teams with greater talent while BR hasn't beaten a team with equal to or more talent in a LONG time!
Rice's talent is different than years past.
Not game breakers but way more motivated leaders.
Reason for lack of success (PLAYOFF WINS) in 2016 was your best players weren't your hardest workers and rice staff wasn't able to reach & motivate the kids. (THIS is 100% on coaches)
This year Rice's top guys are all blue collar / hardest workers...
I'm also counting on the staff changes to really benefit rice. When you get used to throw the ball to rickey and run with vallady technique and standards were lost. Shouldn't happen but it did.
The best thing to happen to rice was a 2-7 season. Sometimes you need to be humbled and get a fire lit in your ***.
Should be an excellent game
I'll go with the crusaders 28-20.
Rice's talent is different than years past.
Not game breakers but way more motivated leaders.
Reason for lack of success (PLAYOFF WINS) in 2016 was your best players weren't your hardest workers and rice staff wasn't able to reach & motivate the kids. (THIS is 100% on coaches)
This year Rice's top guys are all blue collar / hardest workers...
I'm also counting on the staff changes to really benefit rice. When you get used to throw the ball to rickey and run with vallady technique and standards were lost. Shouldn't happen but it did.
The best thing to happen to rice was a 2-7 season. Sometimes you need to be humbled and get a fire lit in your ***.
Should be an excellent game
I'll go with the crusaders 28-20.
New Fool, I love your hate and consistent negative comments for rice...
Let's get something straight. This will be my only comment to you on this forum because I don't respond to negative noise but I feel this has to be addressed.
MC, SR, Loyola, Provi and Marist are all better lifetime and current football programs than rice.
With the 1st 4 mentioned not even being CLOSE when it comes to the past.
(I believe the Marist / Dunn run & Playoff wins put them ahead of Rice. 2 state games... Come on!)
I don't know what happened when you were growing up... Some one rubbed you the wrong way, maybe your kid got cut by coach richardson, maybe you got beat up in Mcauleys parking lot...All good.
I'm extremely lucky where I live in the present and look forward to the future.
Future is bright at Rice and look forward to an excellent season. I hope your team of choice does well against everyone besides BR..
BR still has a better overall historical record head to head vs Marist. Rice plays in CCL Blue vs ESCC - Rice won a state championship in Football - Marist still pulling a Marv Levy
Queen 4 a Day or 4 a Lifetime: You're too sensitive to my jabs. I'm glad that you like Rice. Loyalty is a wonderful thing and not every school instills it. Most of my buddies went to Leo, which could go the way of Holy Cross, Gordon Tech, and other once-thriving institutions. I hope that Rice continues to serve the Mount Greenwood community. I never subbed at Rice, so I don't have a take on the students, but they have to be more courteous than the animals at Marist. And yes, I did create a disturbance in McAuley's parking lot. A gang of girls threw me down on the ground and tore all my clothes off.
It killed me to type it but In my opinion the truth hurts.
Marist was my #1 rivalry growing up but I try to keep my posts unbiased.
Going back to all time records is like my 84 year old granpa telling me Michigan and ND are better college football teams than bama. Yet bama would run a train on both teams the past decade. (I'm an ND fan.)
Having a better record head to head all time and more wins is cool and excellent facts.
I guess I'm more upset about rices lack of success (not reaching potential) the past 10 years and Marist uprising (optimizing their potential).
... I'm not a big hypothetical guy But you give rices 2016 roster to Marists coaches... That state final game vs Loyola is not 49-7. (or whatever it was)
You seem to be pretty down on the BR coaches. Are you sure you didn't get cut at some point?
Either way rices defense in 2016 was really bad. I don't know a coaching staff out there that could overcome the lack of talent on the defense side that year
I didn't get cut, far from it and I'll take you're feedback and try to reflect my opinion in a more positive light.
Always disappointing when teams don't reach their potential.
2016 was coach Badkes first and only year as D coordinator. Just stating facts. Glad to hear he spread out responsibility after that season.
As stated early in this thread
"I'm also counting on the staff changes to really benefit rice."
This is entertaining stuff. I have a serious question though, I played at a pretty good program and never knew of anyone, on any level in football, getting cut. Has anyone associated with any of these programs, big or small, good or bad, know of any programs implementing cuts anymore?
Offensively they definitely hit their potential that year.
I agree staff changes are good but so is stablity within a staff.
Not quite a fact but Badke has rice in a better position then anyone else would.
Most if not all that talent is there because of him and tim OC. Now just need to translate in playoff wins
I agree staff changes are good but so is stablity within a staff.
Not quite a fact but Badke has rice in a better position then anyone else would.
Most if not all that talent is there because of him and tim OC. Now just need to translate in playoff wins
Ok... gotcha. I get the distinct feeling that this board is laden with guys that were “non contributors” back in the day. Just a hunch.
100% agree Badke has done an excellent job recruiting.
I also hope it leads to a win on Friday and a few wins in December.
I don’t know about the rest of you - but back in the day when I played (yes I was a contributor and multi year starter and all Conference etc) - some of the guys I respected the most were the guys that grinded on the scout team but never saw the field until their senior year and only at the end of a blow out. To bust your *** every day and Know you are not gonna see the field says a ton. Most people quit way before that point. Tip of the cap to all the boys out there that are grinders and true teammates!
Yeah....but wasn't this in WA state?
Lol Yes!! But we have decent football in the tree hugging Northwest! Not quite the level of football overall as here in IL but a handful of teams would fit right in and compete well.
( can’t count those cheaters from Bellevue High School though - A public school using booster money to open a private school with no athletics so they can all play at Bellevue and to have an apartment building for the players and their families... whoa!! Talk about over the top! - if that happened here it would far exceed the dumpster fire thread length!).
Exactly where was the lack of talent on that defense? I thought they had pretty good defensive talent with king, Keane, olson, lacey, Washington among others . They had just as much defensive talent as any team they played minus Loyola. The problem with rices defense is coaching and scheme. Badke might be able to recruit but Nye consistently had better defenses with less talent.
This is part of the decline of football numbers. These type of players are few and far between. It’s all about me now attitudes and if I’m not playing, then I’m not playing and parents are supporting that.
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really? They were down to their 3/4th string LBs.
King was not 100% and basically gave up on the year
Keane was just bad
Washington didnt come to play when needed
Olsen and Lacy were All Catholic League but both struggled in coverage. Lacy made up for it with the return game.
The difference between Nye and Badke. Badke puts the talent on the O side and Nye put it on the D side.
Two things. First it's seems like your putting alot of blame on the kids. It's the coaches job to get the most out of there players not the other way around. Secondly maybe badke should put more talent on defense then because come playoff time you can't just outscore everyone. Also if I'm not mistaken almost every playoff loss that br has had under badke they were winning at halftime. Halftime adjustment is coaching that's where br has lacked in coaching not I talent.